*Champion*

I have to think quite a few if you take into consideration these stats that I saw last night... Gostkowski FG in 4th quarter Sunday night altered the win/loss result in 12,920 fantasy games on nfl.com Kaepernick's final kneel down altered the win/loss result in 142 fantasy games on nfl.com Roethlisberger INT in overtime altered the win/loss result in 7,771 fantasy games on nfl.com I was lucky that NE needed that last FG as that gave me the points I needed to win. But again... it may be short-lived if this Brown fumble gets changed.

I won by a point but don't feel good about the news I might get by Thursday. http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap2000000111133/Gilberry-TD-off-Brown-fumble Although, based on the Freeman to Blount video that was posted above I guess there is some hope as from the angles both plays are shown on these videos they do seem to look similar.

True or false? If true, I would think he could have some pretty solid value... or am I way off?

I can understand Lions fans hating the sound of Millen's voice. As a Skins fans I know that feeling all too well. But I'm surprised no one has at least mentioned the obvious. Sure, it's obvious the guy was clueless when it came to running a front office but don't forget that before he went to the Lions he was one of the best (if not THE best) announcers in the business. And before doing that he did play a big role on 3 of the 4 Super Bowl winning teams he was a part of. He does have the credentials and he is very qualified to be an announcer... he was just a miserable NFL executive and a lot of his credentials went down the pipes after his attempt.

My only question is... if you hate RTSports so much... and spend most of your fantasy life complaining about the site... why are you still with them 8 years later?

You've spent the last couple of years bashing RTSports. But through all of this... you're still with them. I just don't get it. The best part is it seems you're the only one on the planet that has the problems. What does that tell you? It's time to move on buddy... http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.p...33595&st=40 http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.p...=334321&hl=

Mikey... just thought I'd let you know that some people are looking for you... http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.p...howtopic=335218

“Wow....you actually copied my post, but failed to actually read it? The stats posted from CBS were not updated at the time of my post. Now, perhaps they have been since..I have not checked...did you? LOLOL” Wow this just gets better and better! What a raging idiot you are! Don’t you understand… the entire issue about this was you complaining because RTsports changes stats on Thursday’s!?!? Your EXACT quote was “CBS does not change stats on Thursdays like RT does....again you have no clue.” You even went on to say… “CBS does NOT make the changes on Thursdays like RT does.......comical the ignorance here.” Do you get it yet? You were not only incorrect about CBS not changing stats on Thursday’s or later (because they in fact do)… but they actually don’t do it in as timely a manner as RTSports does. Do you understand? I can’t believe we’ve had to spell this out for you so many times. People have been telling you this all along and you’re still sticking with your stance? I’ve never encountered such a clown on this site in my life. EVEN SOMETHING MORE HILARIOUS was when you said… “I would rather go off the stats that are made official by Tuesday morning, along with every other member of my league. Every week an owner wins a game by 1-2 points, and because of the way RT updates their stats based on Elias updates on Thursday, owners have to wait until then before making moves because they don't know for sure whether they won or lost.” Christ this gets more hilarious by the minute. Given that CBS changes stats on Thursdays… don’t you understand that the case would be the same whether using RTSports or CBS (OR ANY OTHER SITE FOR THAT MATTER). Just give it up buddy… you’re done here and that’s clear to everyone. With regard to the default rankings you say that I’m incorrect and “12 guys in my league (operating since 1991) disagree.” I hate to judge these other 11 guys but if they do in fact believe what you say… it’s clear that your league is possibly the most simple-minded compilation of imbeciles in the United States. It’s not a matter of agreeing or disagreeing… it is simply FACT. Facts are something that cannot be disputed (just wanted to spare you the time of having to go to dictionary.com). I can’t get over how good this gets… “Hmm....didn't you read my post? I did not change my stance....our league is a democracy, one person alone doesn't make all the decisions....sorry Hitler.” IF THIS IS THE CASE THEN DOESN’T THAT CONTRADICT YOUR QUOTE FROM BELOW??? “Each year at the post-season meeting, our owners ask to leave RTS due to the constant problems and lack of obvious functions they refuse to implement. I pursuade them to stick with RTS for one more year, hoping things will improve. This will be the last year." You my friend are the most ignorant person on the planet. If you’re going to lie at least cover your tracks. And by the way Mikey… give a read through this thread and then try to tell us how much better the alternatives are. Admit it or not… it happens on all sites and RTSports is on the light side in comparison… http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.p...33595&st=40 I think the writing is on the wall here buddy. You have been wrong since day one and have done nothing but dig a deeper hole. No one here values your opinion… and that my friend is a fact. Think what you will… I’m just speaking for every other member on this site. To take a page from Mikey’s mind-boggling language and quotes… “Do you write your own scripts? Perhaps you ought to give it up...no one is buying them”

No need for the applause or congratulations Mikey. As much as I'd like to take the credit for sniffing you out... it was you facilitating the process that made it as simple as it was for me and the rest of the gang. I think most everyone here knows that my post was far from an "attempt" as it was clearly a success to anyone that took the time to read all of your banter. I did what I said I would do... and made you look like the fool you are. I certainly didn't like doing it but when guys like you come in here thinking they are the authority on anything/everything that is ffball... someone has to clue you in... and in this case I did just that. Going to great lengths wasn't/isn't needed! Have you yet to figure that out? The things I pointed out were just common knowledge to those who spend time in the ffball world and those that use RTSports. After all, with your supposed 18 years of experience... we're all just trying to get our hands around how you still don't understand the issues at hand? My assessment was solely based on facts (meaning it wasn't an opinion) so checking the facts of my assessment is rather simple. Just answer these simple questions; Does CBS change their stats as RTSports does? What is the default player rankings used on RTSports? Once those two questions are answered... you'll find that my assessment is fact and your statements are just blatantly wrong. If you want to blame RTSports for you not understanding how to use their site... that's you perogative. We're just pointing out that it's a user issue... not a site issue. I think we can now both agree on that. I couldn't agree more that this "forum" world isn't reality (or realty as you would say... haha)... that's exactly what all of us have been trying to explain to you. Because you lose in life shouldn’t be a reason for you trying to win on this board by throwing around blatantly false information and expecting anyone to believe you… we know better… and we sniff guys like you out with ease. As far as having more time on my hands… you joined this site a couple of years ago and I see that you’ve posted close to 500 times. I joined 5 years ago and have about 20 posts to my credit…hmmmm… who is it that has all the time again? So damn stupid it’s amazing! On another note… I hope you were able to spend sometime with your family over the holidays. I’m sure it’s been a while but hopefully that time spent will knock you out of that life-rut you’re in…. haha. What a joke!! Good riddance.

Well, I gotta hand it to you Mikey… at least you’re not shy about showing everyone on the board just how insignificant you are to this world. I was going to leave this topic alone and chalk it up to you just being “one of those guys.” But since you are what you are… I want to join the party and have replied to your original thread on this topic so you clearly understand how ignorant we all believe you to be. At this point… this clearly extends much further than the RTSports site or fantasy football as whole… it’s all about your status in life. For those of you who are new to this discussion/topic just click on the link below as I’ve replied on the old thread to give everyone the opportunity to look back and read the clear ignorance and justified backlash. http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.p...howtopic=333595

Mikey... you're missing my overall point. As I stated in my post, my opinion was "solely and admittedly based on a hunch." It was based on your childish pouting for the sole reason of not being able to find one person to agree with your assessment of RTSports (among other reasons that have already been addressed here by other contributors). I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt on your years of involvement… but don’t forget that years involved doesn’t equate to expertise on the subject (obviously this doesn’t only apply to fantasy football) - in your case clarifying the difference is important. No one cares what you think you know -- and degrading other people because they don’t agree with you does nothing but make you look like the ignorant fool you’ve proven to be here. As I mentioned in my last post… “For your sake (and that of other people/issues/ responsibilities considered important in your life) I hope my hunch is spot on.” According to you I was incorrect about your FFBALL experience - unfortunately that doesn’t say much about you. If my assumption about you being right around 30-years-old was correct… take a look back at your posts within this thread and tell us what they say about you? What self-respecting 30-year-old man has the time (or interest) to whine like a teenage girl as you have for the last few days? This goes back to what Connor said a while back about your issue clearly being about more than just RTSports’ routine maintenance. In general, guys like you are so bitter about your “real” life that not being able to get your way on a message board is something that eats away at you. Guys like you have no control over anything but the mouse on your computer. Guys like you love to run your mouth on a keyboard within the privacy of your own home… but when it comes to the real world… you are exactly what all of us here think you are. Message board bully… hilarious! You think RTSports “blows for serious leagues with complex rules and big money,” and because others don’t seem to agree that makes their league inferior, “Your little $50 per man TD only league probably works fine there. Enjoy it rookie” and it means RTSports has “no clue what they are doing over there...” According to you, not agreeing with you means we are “insane” and that we haven’t done our “homework.” You are laughable man! Let me clue you in for a second… you clearly have very limited experience in this world compared to others that navigate this message board (regardless of your so-called 18 years of “expertise”). I’m sure of this because I know many of these people personally and by reading through their contributions on the board it’s clear who knows what… and who is just here to try to win at something in life in order to fill a void they can’t in their real life… haha. That doesn’t mean the first-year fantasy football owner who comes to the board should be discredited – that’s not the case at all. It just means that some know/have experienced more than others in this world… but when people come in swinging their d!cks (as you have here)… just know that sniffing guys like you out is rather simple. Being someone that works in the “sports industry” I come across blow-hards like you every day… and through experience you begin to realize that guys like you are a dime a dozen. I’ve found that the one constant with guys like you is you don’t even realize that people are on to you. They actually think very little of what comes out of your mouth (and allow you to continue to believe you are the authority on the subject because they don’t care enough to go to the trouble and the comedic value of your words is worth the price of admission). If you want people to respect your opinion and/or believe you really know what you’re talking about… let me give you a piece of advice. Remember, there is ALWAYS someone out there who has more experience, has accomplished more, has been doing it longer, etc. (regardless of the subject). Maybe that piece of advice will open your eyes and allow you to be open to other opinions/experiences. Trust me – if you think that way maybe one day you really will know as much as you think you currently do. NONETHELESS, let me get back to the actual issues at hand here. Pay close attention because I’m about to break you down and show how ignorant you really are. This will end the conversation and any credibility you thought you had (although I think you took care of this yourself a while ago). *Disclaimer for all readers – I am going to talk to Mikey just like he talks to everyone else to give him a taste of his own medicine. Issue #1 - Stat Changes Mikey Quotes: CBS does not change stats on Thursdays like RT does....again you have no clue. CBS does NOT make the changes on Thursdays like RT does.......comical the ignorance here. RT changes the stats after they are updated by Elias Sports Bureau, THERE...BETTER?... I know that CBS Sportsline did not change the stats for LT today...did they? LT Receiving yards From CBSSPORTSLINE: L. Tomlinson 3 40 REVISED From RTSPORTS: L. Tomlinson 3 45 Did you even check CBS’ stats when you opened your mouth about this you raging idiot? They in fact did change LT’s stats to reflect the correction - that same day. What does that say about everything you said above? Complete imbecile! As you know, Elias makes changes periodically and they are reported to the various media outlets. These stats are always changed in accordance with the rules of each individual fantasy league host site (FYI - RTSports’ stat cut-off time is noon on Friday’s). The only difference between RTSports and CBSSportline is that every week RTSports goes out of their way to announce the statistical changes on their home page -- while CBS just changes them and makes no announcement. Not a big deal to me but if we’re comparing the two it’s clear what the difference in level of service is in this case. Got it stupid? Issue #2 – RTSports’ Top Player Rankings Mikey Quotes: You cannot list Top Players in order of their total points by default (the default is 3-week average). As far as the ranking for top players being the 3-week average by default..you are wrong....it appears to have changed now, but up to a week ago, the default was 3-week Default for the rankings on RTSports has always been average points per game. What your simple-minded ignorance failed to understand is that before the byes the numbers are skewed because RTSports lists the rankings based on the average number of points (per game) for each player -- taking into account the number of games they’ve played. That my friend is just logical! Why would you put player B above player A if one has more points than the other BUT has played one less game? But since you can’t seem to grasp the concept of logic… luckily for you, now that the all of the byes have come and gone… you’ll see that they have “dumbed them down” for people on your “level.” And quite honestly… if you’ve been with RTSports as long as you say you have… you’d know that sorting the rankings EXACTLY AS YOU WANT them to be sorted is as easy as clicking on the category. If you want them sorted by Total Points, 3-week, or Average just click the damn button and shut your hole. Damn, you are a blithering idiot! Issue #3 – Per Mikey: RTSports is run by amateurs and leagues who use RTSports are inferior Mikey Quotes: LOL...you guys are...the extra cost for CBS divided by 12 guys is nothing....and the format blows these RT amateurs away. The site blows for serious leagues, with complex rules and big money. Your little $50 per man TD only league probably works fine there. Enjoy it rookie. Right...but it's just one of MANY features and functions the site lacks, along with the continuous downtime. Others have indicated this is the first time the site has been down, but that is far from the truth...several times this year the RT site has encountered problems. I could give a ratzazz if 7 people here love RTS, they are obviously the amateurs and enjoy accepting substandard service and features. It just gets better and better doesn’t it!!??!! Hey idiot… you’ve been using them since 2002 for a reason. Are you telling us that in your 7th year you’re just now changing your stance? What is it that changed from year 4 or 5 to year 7? If their features, functions, servers, etc. aren’t up to par (as you say)… what’s the hold-up on your site upgrade? Furthermore, you say that RTSports “blows for serious leagues, with complex rules and big money” (what an brilliant vocabulary you have by the way… haha). So what you’re saying is that from 2007 to 2008 your league went from amateur status to the WCOFF status? You truly are the biggest blithering buffoon I’ve ever encountered on this site! Listen up chief… from your previous posts I think I can speak for everyone when I say… your “big money” and “complex rules” are the biggest joke this message board has ever seen. Let’s be honest Mikey… it’s clear that big money is something you don’t have (and may never have). Unless you tell me you hit the lotto… I ain’t buying anything you’re selling. You are a fool… and fools are treated as such. It gets even funnier… "Each year at the post-season meeting, our owners ask to leave RTS due to the constant problems and lack of obvious functions they refuse to implement. I pursuade them to stick with RTS for one more year, hoping things will improve. This will be the last year." Wow… this is just amazing! So through your 7 years on the site you have to “pursuade” (hilarious spelling by the way – oh wait… the U key is right next to the E key so it’s just a typo – oh wait… no it’s not, it’s all the way on the other side of the keyboard) all of them to come back? You f$ckin’ idiot. Essentially Mikey… you are an idiot of enormous proportions. Everyone here has sniffed it out and you’d be lucky if anyone here believed one word out of your mouth from this point forward. On a serious note… spend some time with your family this Thanksgiving. It sounds like they haven’t seen you in a while – but more importantly it sounds like you need it. Plus you don’t want this to be the holiday dinner where your parents finally bring up charging you rent. Give them a break if they do though… you are 30-years-old and still sleeping in the same bed you were occupying in 5th grade … so it’s justified. Happy Thanksgiving.

Mikey... if this is your last season with RTSports -- that's great. Finish up the season and be done with it. Everyone has a right to his or her own opinion, but as Connor mentioned, your situation clearly goes deeper than just "routine maintenance." Again, I don't know you but based on your stance here I'd venture to say that this isn't your 7th season on RTSports and you're simply using that in an attempt to validate your opinion -- an opinion no one here agrees with regardless. Furthermore I personally believe (and this is solely and admittedly based on a hunch) this isn't the 18th year of your league. Why do I believe that? The way I see it... let's assume for a second that your fantasy football "career" started when you were 12-years-old... that would put you at right around 30-years-old now and based on your posts, your ignorance (as it pertains to the subject), your language, etc... I just find it very hard to believe. Plus, I think most here would agree that any 30-year-old man worth a damn doesn't have the time to be bickering back-and-forth on a message board about insignificant (non-existent) issues on a fantasy league host site. For your sake (and that of other people/issues/responsibilities considered important in your life) I hope my hunch is spot on. Keep in mind that 18 years ago we were still about 7 or 8 years from being introduced to a true online fantasy presence. Many of us Commissioner's can remember the days of grabbing a USA Today (or any other National paper) on Monday morning and having to tally the stats manually for each team line-by-line from the sports section -- a process I'm sure pains some of us to even think back to. Personally, I don't see you as one of "us." That's certainly not to say anyone who wasn't doing this back in the 90's isn't considered one of "us" because that's certainly not the case. But I'm confident when I say that those that understand my implied definition of "us" know who "us" really is... and I'm personally not buying that you do. Good luck the rest of the way!

Mikey... this is our 9th year with RTSports and it's nothing short of spectacular. You question the credibility of other leagues based on what? Nothing... and that's the bottom line. It's understandable that your ignorance is solely based on your lack of experience on the site (and probably others for that matter) but to attempt to disqualify others because their opinion differs makes you look like a complete imbecile. If you don't like it... don't use it. I'm sure they don't want you using their site if you don't get it. This site is designed for veteran FFBALL owners and Commissioners as well as first time newbie’s. Say what you will about RTSports but the bottom line is that not only are you in the minority... most don't agree with any part of your "assessment." Over the years I have made a bevy of suggestions and most of the time they are willing to accomodate us. Again, they've been nothing short of spectacular. I'm not going to question your fantasy credibility or knowledge because I don't know anything about you... but this thread is evidence enough for us to formulate our "assessment."

In a standard yardage/TD combo league... there is absolutely nothing wrong with this trade. A starting RB for a TE... usually never anything wrong with that.

You obviously know something! I am so with you on this thought process here and I love Moore this week. But I'm thinking that I think Jones is solid this week too and that's what is killing me. I've thought this out thoroughly... and I'm right there with your assessment of how the game could go.