Study shows $125 Billion in Waste at Pentagon ... Pentagon nukes study

[hoytdwow 202]

Interesting read in today's Post. I spent all of 9 months as a defense contractor about 5 years ago, and even that was enough for me to realize how utterly focked up DoD is.

 

Salient points:

 

 

The money could cover the operational costs for 50 Army brigades, or 3,000 F-35 Joint Strike Fighters for the Air Force, or 10 aircraft-carrier strike groups for the Navy.

 

 

 

The data showed that the Defense Department was paying a staggering number of people — 1,014,000 contractors, civilians and uniformed personnel — to fill back-office jobs far from the front lines.

 

 

 

Almost half of the Pentagon’s back-office personnel — 457,000 full-time employees — were assigned to logistics or supply-chain jobs. That alone exceeded the size of United Parcel Service’s global workforce.

The Pentagon’s purchasing bureaucracy counted 207,000 full-time workers. By itself, that would rank among the top 30 private employers in the United States.

More than 192,000 people worked in property management. About 84,000 people held human-resources jobs.

 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/pentagon-buries-evidence-of-125-billion-in-bureaucratic-waste/2016/12/05/e0668c76-9af6-11e6-a0ed-ab0774c1eaa5_story.html?hpid=hp_rhp-banner-main_pentagon-0655pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

 

Drain the swamp, or is this OK because Support Our Troops, etc.?

[Hardcore troubadour 12,627]

Interesting read in today's Post. I spent all of 9 months as a defense contractor about 5 years ago, and even that was enough for me to realize how utterly focked up DoD is.

 

Salient points:

 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/pentagon-buries-evidence-of-125-billion-in-bureaucratic-waste/2016/12/05/e0668c76-9af6-11e6-a0ed-ab0774c1eaa5_story.html?hpid=hp_rhp-banner-main_pentagon-0655pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

 

Drain the swamp, or is this OK because Support Our Troops, etc.?

This is Trumps fault? Anything else you want to blame him for? Obamacare premiums going through the roof?

[RLLD 3,455]

To be fair, MUCH of the "waste" is involved with the abundance of checks and double checks for every single mother focking thing they do.... secondly, idiotic rules that harken from a bygone era that no one has the balls to dare challenge or change.

 

The military bureaucracy is too slow to adapt, the mindset is too controlled and structured, innovation is stifled......its a cumbersome and expensive way of handling business...

[bandrus1 413]

Just a legal way to launder money

[Sho Nuff 719]

To be fair, MUCH of the "waste" is involved with the abundance of checks and double checks for every single mother focking thing they do.... secondly, idiotic rules that harken from a bygone era that no one has the balls to dare challenge or change.

 

The military bureaucracy is too slow to adapt, the mindset is too controlled and structured, innovation is stifled......its a cumbersome and expensive way of handling business...

Likely...and if you try to cut it, you hate America and the troops.

[hoytdwow 202]

To be fair, MUCH of the "waste" is involved with the abundance of checks and double checks for every single mother focking thing they do.... secondly, idiotic rules that harken from a bygone era that no one has the balls to dare challenge or change.

 

The military bureaucracy is too slow to adapt, the mindset is too controlled and structured, innovation is stifled......its a cumbersome and expensive way of handling business...

I'm sure this is true to some degree. Here's a story from my own experience that I think is a bit more germane to these findings:

 

I worked as a contractor for about 9 months several years ago. I was hired to replace a guy who was going to retire. However, something happened and he decided he was going to keep working. There isn't enough work for 2 people, though. Contractor boss doesn't care, though, because the contract stipulates 2 positions, and they make money off the gubmint for each person on the contract. So, the old guy "works from home." I called my boss and told him this wasn't working out and that there wasn't enough work for both of us, and he's like, "What are you talking about?!?!" So, I found another job and quit.

 

I have several friends who are GS civilian employees, and according to them, this ^ type of thing happens all the time, especially in the civilian ranks. In many cases, it's retired military guys who draw a pension and a fat salary. It is ridiculous how many people are double dipping, in fact, usajobs.gov is rigged to favor military service as a hiring factor.

[RLLD 3,455]

I'm sure this is true to some degree. Here's a story from my own experience that I think is a bit more germane to these findings:

 

I worked as a contractor for about 9 months several years ago. I was hired to replace a guy who was going to retire. However, something happened and he decided he was going to keep working. There isn't enough work for 2 people, though. Contractor boss doesn't care, though, because the contract stipulates 2 positions, and they make money off the gubmint for each person on the contract. So, the old guy "works from home." I called my boss and told him this wasn't working out and that there wasn't enough work for both of us, and he's like, "What are you talking about?!?!" So, I found another job and quit.

 

I have several friends who are GS civilian employees, and according to them, this ^ type of thing happens all the time, especially in the civilian ranks. In many cases, it's retired military guys who draw a pension and a fat salary. It is ridiculous how many people are double dipping, in fact, usajobs.gov is rigged to favor military service as a hiring factor.

 

Correct and true for all areas of government contracting. Though mod's are possible and do happen, and each year tends to be an "option" year, giving the government some leverage against contractors. But in general yeah.....and the biggest part of the problem is the inability of the government contract offices to produce decent RFP's, if you try to help them out they get all indignant too. When we develop proposals, we have to dumb them down to a 10th grade reading level for these people....

[rholio 339]

The answer is obviously to increase military spending.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

I have learned today that liberals think overspending is terrible, unless it's for Air Force One.

[Sho Nuff 719]

I have learned today that liberals think overspending is terrible, unless it's for Air Force One.

 

Who said such a thing?