HenryHill9323 65 Posted March 2, 2015 If this actually happened the colossally inept way Obama has handled foreign policy just got turned up a notch. Some of those here who support the fact Obama disses Israel and Netanyahu at every turn also say Israel needs to take care of their own problems. Well, they were going to do just that, until Obama threatened to shoot their jets out of the sky. Great way to treat our only ally in the region. Report: Obama Threatened to Shoot Down IAF Iran StrikeKuwaiti paper claims unnamed Israeli minister with good ties with the US administration 'revealed the attack plan to John Kerry.' The Bethlehem-based news agency Ma’an has cited a Kuwaiti newspaper report Saturday, that US President Barack Obama thwarted an Israeli military attack against Iran's nuclear facilities in 2014 by threatening to shoot down Israeli jets before they could reach their targets in Iran. Following Obama's threat, Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu was reportedly forced to abort the planned Iran attack. According to Al-Jarida, the Netanyahu government took the decision to strike Iran some time in 2014 soon after Israel had discovered the United States and Iran had been involved in secret talks over Iran’s nuclear program and were about to sign an agreement in that regard behind Israel's back. The report claimed that an unnamed Israeli minister who has good ties with the US administration revealed the attack plan to Secretary of StateJohn Kerry, and that Obama then threatened to shoot down the Israeli jets before they could reach their targets in Iran. Al-Jarida quoted "well-placed" sources as saying that Netanyahu, along with Minister of Defense Moshe Yaalon, and then-Foreign Minister Avigdor Liberman, had decided to carry out airstrikes against Iran's nuclear program after consultations with top security commanders. According to the report, “Netanyahu and his commanders agreed after four nights of deliberations to task the Israeli army's chief of staff, Benny Gantz, to prepare a qualitative operation against Iran's nuclear program. In addition, Netanyahu and his ministers decided to do whatever they could do to thwart a possible agreement between Iran and the WhiteHouse because such an agreement is, allegedly, a threat to Israel'ssecurity.” The sources added that Gantz and his commanders prepared the requested plan and that Israeli fighter jets trained for several weeks in order to make sure the plans would work successfully. Israeli fighter jets reportedly even carried out experimental flights in Iran's airspace after they managed to break through radars. Brzezinski's idea Former US diplomat Zbigniew Brzezinski, who enthusiastically campaigned for Obama in 2008, called on him to shoot down Israeli planes if they attack Iran. “They have to fly over our airspace in Iraq. Are we just going to sit there and watch?” said the former national security advisor to formerPresident Jimmy Carter in an interview with the Daily Beast. “We have to be serious about denying them that right,” he said. “If they fly over, you go up and confront them. They have the choice of turning back or not. No one wishes for this but it could be a 'Liberty' in reverse.’" Israel mistakenly attacked the American Liberty ship during the Six-Day War in 1967. Brzezinski was a top candidate to become an official advisor to President Obama, but he was downgraded after Republican and pro-Israel Democratic charges during the campaign that Brzezinski’s anti-Israel attitude would damage Obama at the polls. http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/191966#.VPSLfvnF_A0 Que Newbie telling us he won't vote for Obama in 2016 because of this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted March 2, 2015 If you look his history, and the people he has appointed, the contempt this administration shows for Israel is no surprise at all. He is who've we always said he is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,890 Posted March 2, 2015 I'd be really surprised if this is true. I also suspect this thread will disappear in the ether, buried under and avalanche of other fake outrage Obummer threads you post here every day of the week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted March 2, 2015 link to outrage ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 540 Posted March 2, 2015 If an unnamed Israeli minister said it, it must be true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,890 Posted March 2, 2015 link to outrage ? I figured RP posting the story and his commentary were outrage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,310 Posted March 2, 2015 Seems extremely hard to believe. Both that Israel would conduct an air strike to thwart the US's diplomatic attempts and that Obummer would threaten to shoot down Israeli planes. Frankly I suspect you would have to be a gullible idiot to put any stock in this story Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryHill9323 65 Posted March 2, 2015 Well, it didn't take long for the three stooges to show up to slob Obama's knob. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,890 Posted March 2, 2015 Well, it didn't take long for the three stooges to show up to slob Obama's knob. Next step is for Jerry to show up and cry like a b1tch about how we derailed your attempt at honest discussion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,310 Posted March 2, 2015 How is it slobbing anyone's knob to point out that this "story" is 1) completely unsupported by verifiable sources and 2) extremely difficult to believe? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 540 Posted March 2, 2015 Seems extremely hard to believe. Both that Israel would conduct an air strike to thwart the US's diplomatic attempts and that Obummer would threaten to shoot down Israeli planes. Frankly I suspect you would have to be a gullible idiot to put any stock in this story Dude, I personally know unnamed Israeli minister. He wouldn't lie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted March 2, 2015 I am not buying this. I think it is some goofball making stuff up, or some tactical ploy on the part of Israel. First and foremost, Obama has shown the he categorically lacks the fortitude to act, so the notion that he would suddenly leap into action and shoot down the planes of our allies seems pretty far fetched to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,890 Posted March 2, 2015 I am not buying this. Obviously Obummer's nuts are on your chin according to RP's mature political discourse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted March 2, 2015 Obviously Obummer's nuts are on your chin according to RP's mature political discourse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryHill9323 65 Posted March 2, 2015 Obviously Obummer's nuts are on your chin according to RP's mature political discourse. There is a pattern with you, Moe, and Curly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magnificent Bastard 190 Posted March 2, 2015 True or not, Israel needs to simmer down and do as they are told. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,890 Posted March 2, 2015 There is a pattern with you, Moe, and Curly. Hi Mr. Pot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted March 2, 2015 Looking forward to the PMs comments tomorrow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryHill9323 65 Posted March 2, 2015 Looking forward to the PMs comments tomorrow. I saw his warm up speech this AM to some group....not sure which one, but I'm guessing Frankie will be along shortly to start a thread telling us how we can't take them seriously cuz they let BeBe speak. He said something along the lines of the times where Israel sits on the sidelines are over. I don't think he is going to let Obama and Kerry give Iran the bomb like they have outlined in the latest deal Iran is fleecing those two with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted March 2, 2015 I saw his warm up speech this AM to some group....not sure which one, but I'm guessing Frankie will be along shortly to start a thread telling us how we can't take them seriously cuz they let BeBe speak. He said something along the lines of the times where Israel sits on the sidelines are over. I don't think he is going to let Obama and Kerry give Iran the bomb like they have outlined in the latest deal Iran is fleecing those two with. that should get the drunken jew haters like wiff all wound up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryHill9323 65 Posted March 2, 2015 Here is the quote: “No more!” he said to applause. “The days when the Jewish people are passive in the face of threats to annihilate us — those days are over.” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magnificent Bastard 190 Posted March 2, 2015 Here is the quote: No more! he said to applause. The days when the Jewish people are passive in the face of threats to annihilate us those days are over. Yes, Israel has been quite passive the last 60 or so years. Not saying they shoukd be passive, but they have been anything but. You suckas buy this BS, because you think it's against the President. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted March 2, 2015 I saw his warm up speech this AM to some group....not sure which one, but I'm guessing Frankie will be along shortly to start a thread telling us how we can't take them seriously cuz they let BeBe speak. He said something along the lines of the times where Israel sits on the sidelines are over. I don't think he is going to let Obama and Kerry give Iran the bomb like they have outlined in the latest deal Iran is fleecing those two with. Holy focking RMFF! Jesus, you're a loser! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryHill9323 65 Posted March 2, 2015 Holy focking RMFF! Jesus, you're a loser! http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=443292 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rholio 339 Posted March 2, 2015 Netanyahu and his ministers decided to do whatever they could do to thwart a possible agreement between Iran and the WhiteHouse because such an agreement is, allegedly, a threat to Israel'ssecurity.” Isreal tries to sabotage our country's peace efforts, Obama stops them, and... where's the down side there? You'd rather have our 'only ally in the region' act against us? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryHill9323 65 Posted March 2, 2015 Isreal tries to sabotage our country's peace efforts, Obama stops them, and... where's the down side there? You'd rather have our 'only ally in the region' act against us? Obama and Kerry are giving Iran the nuclear bomb. Iran has vowed to wipe Israel off the map. Can't imagine why Israel would try to prevent that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magnificent Bastard 190 Posted March 2, 2015 Obama and Kerry are giving Iran the nuclear bomb. Iran has vowed to wipe Israel off the map. Can't imagine why Israel would try to prevent that. Holy Hyperbole! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rholio 339 Posted March 2, 2015 Obama and Kerry are giving Iran the nuclear bomb. Iran has vowed to wipe Israel off the map. Can't imagine why Israel would try to prevent that. So you're okay with our allies betraying our country? How patriotic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryHill9323 65 Posted March 2, 2015 So you're okay with our allies betraying our country? How patriotic. I'm questioning how an agreement between the USA and Iran forces Israel to abide by it. Especially when they have no input, and the agreement puts their country at risk of annihilation. We can hold our funding over their head, but what good is foreign aid when your country has been turned into a glass sheet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted March 2, 2015 So you're okay with our allies betraying our country? How patriotic. so your ok with our president betraying our country ? how patriotic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rholio 339 Posted March 2, 2015 I'm questioning how an agreement between the USA and Iran forces Israel to abide by it. Especially when they have no input, and the agreement puts their country at risk of annihilation. We can hold our funding over their head, but what good is foreign aid when your country has been turned into a glass sheet? So, again, you're okay with an ally working against your country? It's okay because we didn't ask their permission to do something unrelated to them? Netanyahu and his ministers decided to do whatever they could do to thwart a possible agreement between Iran and the WhiteHouse because such an agreement is, allegedly, a threat to Israel'ssecurity.” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryHill9323 65 Posted March 2, 2015 so your ok with our president betraying our country ? how patriotic In you disagree with anything Obama does, you are unpatriotic. Get with the program! ...Oh, and a racist! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rholio 339 Posted March 2, 2015 so your ok with our president betraying our country ? how patriotic did he take money from Iran? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryHill9323 65 Posted March 2, 2015 So, again, you're okay with an ally working against your country? It's okay because we didn't ask their permission to do something unrelated to them? Nope. I think it is bad for America, and the entire world, to let Iran get nukes. So if Israel thwarts Obama and Kerry getting fleeced on the world stage by the Mullahs, I'm good with that. I consider that working in the best interest of the USA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rholio 339 Posted March 2, 2015 Nope. I think it is bad for America, and the entire world, to let Iran get nukes. So if Israel thwarts Obama and Kerry getting fleeced on the world stage by the Mullahs, I'm good with that. I consider that working in the best interest of the USA. Fine upstanding citizen, that Israel. Got it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted March 2, 2015 Fine upstanding citizen, that Israel. Got it. so iran is now our ally who can be trusted eh ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryHill9323 65 Posted March 2, 2015 Fine upstanding citizen, that Israel. Got it. About time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryHill9323 65 Posted March 2, 2015 so iran is now our ally who can be trusted eh ? If Obama tells him to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,890 Posted March 2, 2015 RP loves America so much that he sides with Israel over us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rholio 339 Posted March 2, 2015 so iran is now our ally who can be trusted eh ? Nope. Stupid idea to try to negotiate with them. The problem is, it's either negotiate or bomb them. The United States chose to negotiate. Israel decided to bomb them, solely because the United States was negotiating. When a country reacts to what your country is doing by doing the opposite, that's usually called an enemy, not an ally. Obama is a Democrat, so the Repubtards here are used to cheering for the enemies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites