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I almost forgot. Every year I pick a rookie bust. Last year was too easy, I picked Manziel. This year, sorry, just as easy.

 

And it's not Winston.

 

Here's a guy, a lot of people will draft, and you are better off just not wasting your time, in a redraft.

 

Melvin Gordon.

 

I don't hafta tell you why, that's my pick ....suck it.

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Ok, fine ... You wanna know why?

 

It's The Chargers. That's why. They suck at running the ball.

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I love Gordon. Hope he has slow quiet preseason.

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Ok, fine ... You wanna know why?

 

It's The Chargers. That's why. They suck at running the ball.

That's because they had one of the worst offensive lines in football. Signing Orlando Franklin was huge, but they still have big question marks on the right side.

 

I love Melvin Gordon as a volume back. Not many of them left.

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Gordon just moved up on my list .

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Ok, fine ... You wanna know why?

 

It's The Chargers. That's why. They suck at running the ball.

Actually we don't want to know why.

 

At this point you were talking to yourself. On the internet. Talking to yourself on the internet.

 

That's not a person I am going to listen to.

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Actually we don't want to know why.

 

At this point you were talking to yourself. On the internet. Talking to yourself on the internet.

 

That's not a person I am going to listen to.

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Not going to say I agree with the pick, but I do like it. I'm going to give you credit for going out on a limb and not taking one of the obvious choices.

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So how do you define "bust"in this case?

 

SD "really sucked at running the ball" last year but Ryan Mathews still averaged just above double digit PPG when he played and so did Oliver when Mathews was out.....enough to make either on the cusp of RB2 territory when starting.

 

Its hard for me to see anybody expecting much more than that this year for Gordo as a rookie RB while he is unlikely to play significant snaps in the passing game so are you thinking he underperforms that 10-12 ish PPG expectation badly?

 

Like maybe 5 PPG average Giants Fan?

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Actually we don't want to know why.

 

At this point you were talking to yourself. On the internet. Talking to yourself on the internet.

 

That's not a person I am going to listen to.

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Let's hear some number predictions. "Bust" or "big fan of" are easy adjectives to throw around.....real numbers are the ballsy things.

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Honestly? I don't think Gordon will be good this year. I'm thinking his season will be ok but by no means fantasy worthy unless you're in a league 16+ members. His pass protection coming out of college won't be up to par so he will be coming out on passing downs. Could get the goal line carries. He could potentially be a good flex player but I don't see him being a rb2 this year. Next year yes definitely

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I think in standard scoring system he is a low end rb2. But not in a PPR . Woodhead is going to be the passing down rb .

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Honestly? I don't think Gordon will be good this year. I'm thinking his season will be ok but by no means fantasy worthy unless you're in a league 16+ members. His pass protection coming out of college won't be up to par so he will be coming out on passing downs. Could get the goal line carries. He could potentially be a good flex player but I don't see him being a rb2 this year. Next year yes definitely

With the current lack of bell cow RBs and the number of RBBCs, it's gonna be real hard for him not to be a RB2 in a 12 team league. Hell, Woodhead was an RB2 in this same offense two years ago.

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I think in standard scoring system he is a low end rb2. But not in a PPR . Woodhead is going to be the passing down rb .

I think Woodhead is a has-been at this point. Maybe he will prove me wrong though

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I think Woodhead is a has-been at this point. Maybe he will prove me wrong though

You might be right . This past season he was hurt so , make s it hard to tell how he will rebound from the injury . The season before he put up very good PPR numbers . But you might be right he good be a has - been .

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I'll take TJ Yeldon 2 rounds later before I take Gordon

 

You won't get Yeldon two rounds after Melvin Gordon. Well, maybe if you're playing in weepaws leagues.

 

People are seriously sleeping on Danny Woodhead. 2 years ago he had 1000 total yards and 8 tds with 65 receptions. Ryan Mathews played 16 games that year, had 1255 rushing yards and 180 some receiving yards on 26 catches with 7 tds. There is plenty of room in the SD offense for two backs to eat well.

 

Gordon has a fine rookie year: 900 rushing, 200 receiving on 25 catches, 8 total tds. For his talent and situation I feel that's a good projection for him.

 

edit: not a bust

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The Bolts aren't a committee back team, they want one guy running the ball and getting the cheese. That guy is Gordon.

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The Bolts aren't a committee back team, they want one guy running the ball and getting the cheese. That guy is Gordon.

What they want and what actually happens don't always coincide. Gordon's ability to be the every down RB they want will depend on his ability to develop in the passing game and his pass protection.

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Gordon is a high character kid in a great situation... Doesn't have Gurley's ceiling, but doesn't have his injury history either. Can see Gordon becoming a Frank Gore type of back

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You won't get Yeldon two rounds after Melvin Gordon. Well, maybe if you're playing in weepaws leagues.

 

People are seriously sleeping on Danny Woodhead. 2 years ago he had 1000 total yards and 8 tds with 65 receptions. Ryan Mathews played 16 games that year, had 1255 rushing yards and 180 some receiving yards on 26 catches with 7 tds. There is plenty of room in the SD offense for two backs to eat well.

 

Gordon has a fine rookie year: 900 rushing, 200 receiving on 25 catches, 8 total tds. For his talent and situation I feel that's a good projection for him.

 

edit: not a bust

Agree with the above comments. A prediction of a player being a bust with no predicted stats to serve as a measuring stick is basically useless.

 

If Gordon can't develop his pass protection skills & footwork (ex. Bishop Sankey) & sees no significant playing time, then you can label him a bust as a rookie. But we still don't know if Sankey is a bust since he rarely saw the field in 2014. Is that on him? Absolutely. Doesn't mean he can't develop into a RB2 in his sophomore campaign.

 

I just wish if GFIAFP makes a prediction, he'd back it up with a statistical prediction as well.

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Right now I have Gordon's projected stats at 243/1100/6 rushing and 30/242/2 receiving. These numbers will change throughout the off season but as of now, not a bust.

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I don't see him being a bust . I think he could score 10 tds this season .

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The chargers dont suck at running the ball. Mathews has had mutiple top 10 fantasy finishes despite being known as a bust and that 3rd string guy last year almost set the league on fire for a few weeks.

 

But I like the pick, its risky wich makes it worthwhile if it comes true. Good job putting yourself out there.

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What they want and what actually happens don't always coincide. Gordon's ability to be the every down RB they want will depend on his ability to develop in the passing game and his pass protection.

Not sure he'll see much work in the passing game initially and yeah, obviously he'll need to block at the next level. Sans being an everydown back he'll run plenty in that offense get all the GL stuff. Sort of like Jeremy Hill. That'll be enough.

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Right now I have Gordon's projected stats at 243/1100/6 rushing and 30/242/2 receiving. These numbers will change throughout the off season but as of now, not a bust.

That's a late 1st rounder equivalent projection.

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Don't agree. I see him as a potential rookie of the year canidate myself. I like him and his situation in SD. I think he'll fill in and replace Matthews right away, and be better then what Matthews ever was. He's got a perfect team around him/Rivers.

 

Busts for me would be: Both QB's. However, Winston will pad his stats to look better. Both will have HIGH Int's though. And he'll look horable at times.

And I'll say Gurley as my RB bust pick.

 

I can see people calling him "Girley" because I bet he continoully gets hurt often.

I also happen to really like Tre Mason, even before what he did his first year with the Rams.

 

 

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That's a late 1st rounder equivalent projection.

 

I've still got 19 RBs ahead of him. Right now with the stat projections I've seen online they all seem to be too high. FantasySharks.com has very optimistic projections for everyone it seems.

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I have Gordon ranked 16th

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I've still got 19 RBs ahead of him. Right now with the stat projections I've seen online they all seem to be too high. FantasySharks.com has very optimistic projections for everyone it seems.

That's 182 points in standard which is usually flirting with the top 10. Do you rank players factoring in potential/bust factor?

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That's 182 points in standard which is usually flirting with the top 10. Do you rank players factoring in potential/bust factor?

 

I haven't yet. So my rankings are based only on projected stats for the time being. It's nothing real scientific at the moment.

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It's a joke thread, ppl. It's a reminder that for every Odell Beckham there are 100 Jaron Criners. Who, was not a bust pick of mine, I said the only reason he was good in college was Foles. I still believe in Foles. But it's true that I do try and make picks each year where you might see a guy and overvalue him. Remember this is redraft only, see the Ricky Williams call. Other years I suggested drafting him and he did well. Everyone ... including Mike Ditka, thought Ricky Williams was going to be the shiat, and he was kinda ... Meh. Not saying career bust, just a rookie year bust.

 

Have been wrong some years.... AJ Green, I was wrong, had a good rookie year. He's a stud.

 

ETA: It's also kind of tradition around these parts. Last year, with Manziel, I posted it before he was even drafted. Only year I have done that.

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Also, most years I try not to pick a QB. QBs are too easy. Most rookie QBs are pretty bad. But of course, everyone else is welcome to make their own rookie bust calls itt. No haters.

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Manziel may have been the most obvious bust pick in the history of the NFL. I'm not sure how anyone thought he would be worth a crap his rookie year. That child was at best a 4th round draft pick but went early because of stupid media hype.

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Manziel may have been the most obvious bust pick in the history of the NFL. I'm not sure how anyone thought he would be worth a crap his rookie year. That child was at best a 4th round draft pick but went early because of stupid media hype.

Yeah, that's why I picked him pre-draft last year. "I don't care where he ends up". Like I said, I try and pick a player each year that is actually someone that people might redraft. QBs are too easy, that has been discussed before, so that's why I picked Manziel before the draft last year. Don't matter where he go ... he's not gonna do nuthin this year, son.

 

I said it just like that too, yo, all sounding black but I am actually white. I think it makes me cool and accessible to all races. Don't be a hater.

 

This year we are past the draft now, so ... No QBs or TEs. Too easy.

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Yeah, that's why I picked him pre-draft last year. "I don't care where he ends up". Like I said, I try and pick a player each year that is actually someone that people might redraft. QBs are too easy, that has been discussed before, so that's why I picked Manziel before the draft last year. Don't matter where he go ... he's not gonna do nuthin this year, son.

 

I said it just like that too, yo, all sounding black but I am actually white. I think it makes me cool and accessible to all races. Don't be a hater.

 

This year we are past the draft now, so ... No QBs or TEs. Too easy.

 

How about Amari Cooper then. Lots of people are high on him to be the top WR in OAK. I could easily see him being a nobody his rookie year. I think too many people think Carr is going to have a pretty good year.

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I almost forgot. Every year I pick a rookie bust. Last year was too easy, I picked Manziel. This year, sorry, just as easy.

 

And it's not Winston.

 

Here's a guy, a lot of people will draft, and you are better off just not wasting your time, in a redraft.

 

Melvin Gordon.

 

I don't hafta tell you why, that's my pick ....suck it.

 

You appear to have an abnormal oral fixation. Can you tie that back to some traumatic childhood event? Or maybe some experimentation in junior high?

 

Recocognizing the problem is the first step toward a normal life.

 

God Bless.

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You appear to have an abnormal oral fixation. Can you tie that back to some traumatic childhood event? Or maybe some experimentation in junior high?

 

Recocognizing the problem is the first step toward a normal life.

 

God Bless.

Even if true, it's the least of his problems.

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