Climate change/global warming....

[trumpurethra 42]

Real or no?

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

Yes Climate change is real. Yesterday in south Atlanta it was 73 and today it will be 56.

 

I may have caused that by eating beans yesterday.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

This morning it was 50° this afternoon it will be 60°. That is a change of 10° in only hours.

[IGotWorms 3,302]

There is no debate. Each of the 15 warmest years on record have been in the 2000s.

 

https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/201513

[bandrus1 413]

The fact we have to even ask this shows how much trouble we are in

[Hardcore troubadour 12,595]

It's too bad the fanatics ruined it by lying about the data. Now there is much scepticism.

[posty 2,296]

Nope...

[RLLD 3,455]

Climate change is very real, can be traced using the known methods. We know that over time the earth's temperature has changed.

 

I think the "debate" right now is whether or not the activities of man have contributed to global warming, and thus if a change in those activities might negate any such impact. I think to suggest that man has had no impact is clearly ignorant, but what remains to be seen is the level of that impact, and whether or not a response is warranted, and whether or not such a response will have a tangible impact. Moreover, what are the negative consequences of continued contribution by human activities vs the costs to reduce that impact?

[drobeski 3,061]

Weather, it happens.

Can someone point to a time in the earths history where the climate didn't change ?

[edjr 5,547]

Don't give a chit

 

[MTSkiBum 1,593]

This is a new topic, great idea for a thread.

[wiffleball 4,631]

Here's my take on it for what it's worth.

 

Anybody who thinks the climate isn't changing is living in a whole special kind of denial world.

 

But as we have seen on this board repeatedly some guys would claim the Sun is the moon if their particular news/opinion source told them so. -or if their political opposite said otherwise.

 

Some people say the debate is now Not if the climate is changing, which is progress I guess, But rather, Does or can men contribute to such change For good or ill?

 

The way I look at that, if its flooding outside and the storm drains are over filled with water, I don't care whether that flooding is coming from rain or from a busted fire hydrant, I figure it's not a good idea for me to run my hose at full bore into the gutter at that time.

[Cloaca du jour 2,064]

Well its January in NE Ohio and we have had 14 days of weather above 50 degrees

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

There is no debate. Each of the 15 warmest years on record have been in the 2000s.

 

https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/201513

Man what were the temperatures in the 1700s? Maybe we're in a 300-yearcycle. point is we don't know

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

There are far too many people whose livelihood is dependent on there being global warming / climate change. If it is debunked then what the heII are they going to do?!

[FeelingMN 273]

Man what were the temperatures in the 1700s? Maybe we're in a 300-yearcycle. point is we don't know

 

That is a great point! I'm sure the scientists who have spent years in school getting their doctorate and the years they've spent researching the issue haven't thought once that maybe, just maybe this is part of some natural cycle. Good job! Very Smart!

There are far too many people whose livelihood is dependent on there being global warming / climate change. If it is debunked then what the heII are they going to do?!

 

There are a lot of people whose livelihood is dependent on us consuming fossil fuels and so would rather there was no link between burning those fuels and climate change.

[crackattack 513]

Real.

[Alias Detective 1,179]

Here's my take on it for what it's worth.

Anybody who thinks the climate isn't changing is living in a whole special kind of denial world.

 

The way I look at that, if its flooding outside and the storm drains are over filled with water, I don't care whether that flooding is coming from rain or from a busted fire hydrant, I figure it's not a good idea for me to run my hose at full bore into the gutter at that time.

Unless your water is collected and used in a drought area. If the current benefit is so great the possible negative outcome may be worthwhile.

[IGotWorms 3,302]

Man what were the temperatures in the 1700s? Maybe we're in a 300-yearcycle. point is we don't know

True. With species dying off and such it seems more like millennia or greater type cycle but the point remains

[Drizzay 644]

I like Randall Carlson's theories.

 

[tanatastic 2,061]

The climate always changes. Did cavemen blame the ice age on dinosaur farts collecting over millions of years? Jesus.

 

Watch, in a few hundred years the climate will get colder and global cooling will be the buzz topic.

[lickin_starfish 1,478]

I don't doubt that there is warming.

 

I believe that solar activity plays a larger role than humans, and that we are going through a natural cycle. What melted the last ice age? Humans weren't here to cause that.

 

The panic mode is being played up by people who stand to make huge profits off of a natural occurance.

 

Also, don't litter.

[Quickolas1 80]

Don't give a chit

 

 

I'm sure conservatives will love that our purpose is to make plastic and then become extinct.

 

(We do need George Carlin more now than ever.)

[the s is ilent 69]

I was listening to Rush a while back and a caller said that we could cool the earth by creating a cloud of orbital space sand.

 

Seems easy enough.

[SUXBNME 1,322]

There are far too many people whose livelihood is dependent on there being global warming / climate change. If it is debunked then what the heII are they going to do?!

This.

I just wish the nutballs would have stuck with MMGW.

 

MMGW - False. Only made up data supports it.

Global Warming - Goes hand in hand with climate change

Climate Change - Duh...Of course

[posty 2,296]

There is no debate. Each of the 15 warmest years on record have been in the 2000s.

 

https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/201513

Not counting 2016, the four warmest years were during the Obama administration...

 

Must have been all the hot air he was spewing...

[GobbleDog 815]

Not having a climate degree with objective data to analyze.... the hell if I know.

 

I do know many people I respect have do believe in man-made global warming.... from Stephen Hawking, to Neil D. Tyson, several other scientists. I'll take their word for it.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

 

That is a great point! I'm sure the scientists who have spent years in school getting their doctorate and the years they've spent researching the issue haven't thought once that maybe, just maybe this is part of some natural cycle. Good job! Very Smart!

 

There are a lot of people whose livelihood is dependent on us consuming fossil fuels and so would rather there was no link between burning those fuels and climate change.

Dr. Patrick Moore, a co-founder of Greenpeace, quit the activist environmental organization in 1986 after it strayed away from objective science and took a sharp turn to the political left.

 

Moore pointed out “There is no scientific proof that human emissions of carbon dioxide are the dominant cause of the minor warming of the Earth's atmosphere over the past 100 years,” arguing that “perhaps the simplest way to expose the fallacy of extreme certainty is to look at the historical record.”

 

He told the committee: “When modern life evolved over 500 million years ago, CO2 was more than 10 times higher than today, yet life flourished at this time. Then an ice age occurred 450 million years ago when carbon dioxide was 10 times higher than today.”

 

Moore also noted that “The increase in temperature between 1910 and 1940 was virtually identical to the increase between 1970 and 2000. Yet the IPCC does not attribute the increase from 1910–1942 human influence.” Why then, he asks, “does the IPCC believe that a virtually identical increase in temperature after 1950 is caused mainly by human influence, when it has no explanation for nearly identical increase from 1910 to 1940?”

 

"Nobel Laureate physicist Dr. Ivar Giaever has referred to global warming ideology as a “pseudoscience” that begins with an emotionally-appealing hypothesis, and “then only looks for items which appear to support it,” while ignoring ample contrary evidence. "

 

http://www.newsmax.com/LarryBell/climate-warming-moore/2014/03/17/id/559929/

[SUXBNME 1,322]

Hmmmm..

 

https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/01/06/georgia-tech-climatologist-chooses-career-suicide-to-keep-her-scientific-integrity/

 

Jan 6 2017

 

A climatologist at Georgia Institute of Technology resigned from her post because she could no longer navigate the stifling political orthodoxy on climate change.

Former chair of the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at Georgia Tech Judith Curry announced her resignation in a blog post on Tuesday. While her resignation is technically "a retirement event," and she is "cashing out" to get her pension, Curry explained that "the deeper reasons have to do with my growing disenchantment with universities, the academic field of climate science and scientists."

Curry is known for her scientifically astute explanations of the uncertainties in climate science. Indeed, she has been attacked as "anti-science" by other researchers who repeat the rote "scientific consensus" that man-made global warming is a catastrophic threat to humanity. In a cruel sort of irony, the universities — ostensibly the bastion of academic freedom — have become unsafe for those who, using good scientific methods, are skeptical of the received wisdom on climate change.

"A deciding factor was that I no longer know what to say to students and postdocs regarding how to navigate the CRAZINESS in the field of climate science," Curry wrote. "Research and other professional activities are professionally rewarded only if they are channeled in certain directions approved by a politicized academic establishment — funding, ease of getting your papers published, getting hired in prestigious positions, appointments to prestigious committees and boards, professional recognition, etc." (emphasis added)

[SUXBNME 1,322]

A little more in depth from her - http://reason.com/blog/2017/01/04/georgia-tech-climatologist-judith-curry

[Big Guy 1,400]

The climate always changes. Did cavemen blame the ice age on dinosaur farts collecting over millions of years? Jesus.

 

Watch, in a few hundred years the climate will get colder and global cooling will be the buzz topic.

 

Like the Dems were touting in the 70's

 

 

 

Man Made Climax Change is an absolute hoax, scam. Though weather is being altered by man through geoenginerring.

 

some of you know about Agenda 21.....most don't.

[SUXBNME 1,322]

 

Like the Dems were touting in the 70's

 

 

 

Man Made Climax Change is an absolute hoax, scam. Though weather is being altered by man through geoenginerring.

 

some of you know about Agenda 21.....most don't.

I know about my agenda to rest my balls on your face. Does this count?

[BunnysBastatrds 1,911]

I find it odd that the planet we reside on is six fawking billion years old. And yet, we.only truly know about the last two centuries of how it has evolved.

 

Scary adorable science has scares us into thinking.

[SUXBNME 1,322]

I find it odd that the planet we reside on is six fawking billion years old.

Link?

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

I find it odd that the planet we reside on is six fawking billion years old. And yet, we.only truly know about the last two centuries of how it has evolved.

 

i.e. a fraction of a fraction.

 

We simply don't know what the fock the Earth is doing. Scientist can look at core samples but as some scientists point out, some go in with a preconceived notion then use some data to back it up and discard any contrary data. They simply have invested too much time and money not to have it be true. Also, they don't want the gravy train with biscuit wheels to derail anytime soon.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,566]

Doesn't exist and more importantly even if it does exist are we really supposed to believe the government can fix it?

[Big Guy 1,400]

I know about my agenda to rest my balls on your face. Does this count?

 

ghey

[GobbleDog 815]

They simply have invested too much time and money not to have it be true. Also, they don't want the gravy train with biscuit wheels to derail anytime soon.

 

"Doctors can cure cancer, but won't.... because they make so much money. It's the system, man!"

 

 

Too much tinfoil for me.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

 

"Doctors can cure cancer, but won't.... because they make so much money. It's the system, man!"

 

 

Too much tinfoil for me.

 

I posted links and quotes from scientists that state that is the case. Are they in on the tinfoil brigade as well?

 

And the analogy of curing cancer is pretty weak as they'd make more money curing it. Scientists can't cure something they can't find which is evidence of man-made climate change.

[penultimatestraw 473]

This.

I just wish the nutballs would have stuck with MMGW.

 

MMGW - False. Only made up data supports it.

Global Warming - Goes hand in hand with climate change

Climate Change - Duh...Of course

You realize the businesses on the other side of the equation - fossil fuel companies - have political power as well, and massive incentive to maintain the status quo while denying anthropogenic climate change?