Rank the Next Tier of WRs

[Djgb13 2,338]

So after Calvin Johnson (tier 1) you have the next tier of WRs. They would be AJ Green, Demaryius Thomas, Julio Jones, Dez Bryant, and Brandon Marshall. How would you rank them and why would you rank them that way?

[tanatastic 2,061]

1. AJ- he's the 2nd best wr in the nfl and I don't care if DT plays with Peyton, he ain't throwing 50 again.

 

2.DT- he plays with Peyton lol

 

3. Dez- people will put Julio here, but dez is a beast on an offense that will score a lot and play meh defense. Sitting hairs really but maybe not, dez could out score Calvin possibly.

 

4. Marshall- another beast plus his qb loves him. Maybe not the highest ceiling anymore with Alshon but def a high floor.

 

5. Julio- he broke the screw holding his foot together. That means his natural movements put strain on a foot hes already broken twice. He's borderline dnd for me but can't deny he's a monster when healthy.

[WhiteWonder 2,171]

they are all in the same tier as far as i'm concerned.

 

No argument with Calvin being the consensus number 1 but i believe the next group has bridged the gap.

 

1. Calvin

2. DT

3. Dez

4. AJG

5. Marshall

6. Julio

[rholio 339]

1. AJ- he's the 2nd best wr in the nfl and I don't care if DT plays with Peyton, he ain't throwing 50 again.

 

2.DT- he plays with Peyton lol

 

3. Dez- people will put Julio here, but dez is a beast on an offense that will score a lot and play meh defense. Sitting hairs really but maybe not, dez could out score Calvin possibly.

 

4. Marshall- another beast plus his qb loves him. Maybe not the highest ceiling anymore with Alshon but def a high floor.

 

5. Julio- he broke the screw holding his foot together. That means his natural movements put strain on a foot hes already broken twice. He's borderline dnd for me but can't deny he's a monster when healthy.

Agreed.

[Djgb13 2,338]

I agree that they have bridged the gap. But overall consensus is with Calvin Johnson being #1. That being said I'm trying to figure out who everyone think is next in line to him.

[Matt Mueller 146]

I kinda think AJ and Julio have the most risk.

 

Julio foot we know.

 

Minorly concerned with the change in offensive coordinators in Cinci and a seemingly run first scheme.

[Frozenbeernuts 1,652]

Calvin

Julio

DT

Bmarsh

Green

Dez

 

They are all good and i would be happy with any of them. All news out of atl is good for Jones. I am happy to have him on 2 teams this year.

[weepaws 2,457]

So after Calvin Johnson (tier 1) you have the next tier of WRs. They would be AJ Green, Demaryius Thomas, Julio Jones, Dez Bryant, and Brandon Marshall. How would you rank them and why would you rank them that way?

 

1. C Johnson

 

2.D Thomas

 

3.AJG

 

4.D Bryant

 

5. B Marshall

 

6. J Jones

[Connorsdad 38]

Calvin Johnson: like most of the community feels he's my #1 until someone knocks him down a notch. Like the rest of the studs in this list an absolute target monster. And one more season for Stafford to mature and get better. Also the addition of Golden Tate and Eric Ebron rookie TE will only help Megatron !

 

Dez Bryant: is my #2 on this list i think he could have the most receiving tds this year. The hiring of passing guru Scott Linehan will help his value on this list and also help Romo this year. The Cowboys D is gonna be bad as we all know they will need to score and score and score some more. The emergence of Terrance Williams will take some attention off Dez and give him some possible single coverage situations.

 

Demaryius Thomas: my #3 ! He's Peyton's go to guy. I do think the Broncos will take a step back this year but of course they will that's not a hard thing to predict. Their 2013 schedule was a total joke. This year it is much harder almost on the verge of being brutal ! But I still think he's good enough to be ranked ahead of AJ Green and Julio Jones.

 

Brandon Marshall: #4 I think Marahall could jump up a couple spots this year if Cutler improves his game. Not many more phsyical wr's in the league and great hands. Things are looking great for Marshall In year two of Marc Trestman's offense. DB's will have their hands full trying cover Marshall and Jeffery.

 

AJ Green: #5 I actually would like to put Julio at 5 but his injured foot prevents me from doing so. I think Andy Dalton totally holds AJ Green back ! He's a beast but Ginger is nothing more then a game manager. And now the Bengals are going to be more of a ball-possession offense under OC Hue Jackson and Dalton's passing attempts would be cut back and I think hurting Green's value. To much talent in AJ Green to panic yet.

 

Julio Jones: #6 I love Jones hopefully his foot holds up and they use a higher grade bolt in that ankle. I think Matt Ryan get alittle more protection from his O-line this year and that Falcons offense looks great at times in 2014. Losing TonyG will put more pressure on Julio and Roddy also more target for both and Julio should be right there for top 6 wr in 2014.

[vrabinec 19]

I'm probably in the minority here. I don't see Johnson as the top option this year. The acquisition of Tate will balance out the distribution of the ball IMO. Fewer targets for Johnson that way. I think Thomas will be targeted more because Sanders is mediocre, Latimer's a rookie, and Welker's 33 years old. (p.s. This is one of the reasons I expect Peyton to take a step back) I also think Dez will be targeted more. I don't see Williams as taking any more targets from him than he took last year, and the new OC has no problems chucking it to his fave. Green, like someone above said, has a new OC who is looking for more balance. I don't think his numbers plummet or anything, but I think they slide slightly. So I've got them:

 

Thomas

Johnson

 

Those 2 are in a league of their own IMO.

 

The next level, I've got:

 

Dez

Green

Jones

 

I don't consider Marshall in their class. He belongs in the next level.

 

My dream draft has me getting my stud RB in the mid first, QB guys grab Peyton and Brees in the first, and that there's a rabid Cowboy fan drafting who grabs Dez ahead of Thomas, which pushes Thomas down to me in the second. (either him or Graham)

[Criper 24]

Guess I am way in the minority (I usually am), but my top 6 looks like this:

 

1. Dez - The Scott Linehan presence.

2. DT - The Peyton Manning presence, and is very consistent year over year.

3. Julio - No presence of defense, and the pace he was on last year before injury, cannot be ignored.

4. Calvin - The presence of viable option on the outside in Tate finally gives Stafford another option, not to mention Ebron (though I am not high on Ebron to do a whole lost this year)

5. Jeffery - The presence of Cutler is ideal for Marshall obviously, but Jeffery is a big time play maker who does more with less, than Marshall does. I'm taking him before Marshall.

6. Jordy - The presence of Rogers can't be underestimated. Contract year too. Nelson will have a big year as long as ARod stays healthy.

 

Note: I have AJ Green at #10. I think the presence of Hue Jackson is going to greatly diminish the passing output from the Bengals this year as Dalton becomes more of a game manager. Jackson is a run first OC and his Raider teams were near the top of the league in rushing. Marvin Jones is going to play a lot more snaps than he played under Gruden as well. Simply put, Dalton is not going to be throwing nearly as much as he has the past few seasons. Green will still get his for sure, but there will be a regression, and it's enough for me to move some other guys ahead of him.

[WhiteWonder 2,171]

My dream draft has me getting my stud RB in the mid first, QB guys grab Peyton and Brees in the first, and that there's a rabid Cowboy fan drafting who grabs Dez ahead of Thomas, which pushes Thomas down to me in the second. (either him or Graham)

Possibly in an 8 teamer

[Matt Mueller 146]

Guys I didn't pay attention to many Bengals games last year.

 

Do you think if Cinci scales back it's passing attempts Gios catches might go down or or will those be about where he was last year or go up?

[$epphori$ 118]

they are all in the same tier as far as i'm concerned.

 

No argument with Calvin being the consensus number 1 but i believe the next group has bridged the gap.

 

1. Calvin

2. DT

3. Dez

4. AJG

5. Marshall

6. Julio

+1

[Patmos 2]

Guys I didn't pay attention to many Bengals games last year.

 

Do you think if Cinci scales back it's passing attempts Gios catches might go down or or will those be about where he was last year or go up?

There is talk of using Gio out of the slot some (part of the reason they let Hawkins leave), so I expect his catches to increase!

[Matt Mueller 146]

^ Good stuff. Yeah I can see them getting both rbs on the field some.

 

Think we might see the same from Detroit and Philly.

[polecatt 401]

1. Demaryius Thomas- he is a very gifted WR that couldn't be in a better scenario.

2. Dez Bryant- most talented of the group IMO with most upside. Has a very good QB and in a good offense.

3. AJ Green- A close call between he and Dez. He is a very talented WR that is the focus of a ? offense.

4.Brandon Marshall- he is going to get a ton of targets from a good QB in an average offense. Will put up good volume numbers.

5.Julio Jones- Very gifted WR in a very good situation in Atlanta. Could put up huge numbers but injury concerns put him at 5.

 

 

All of these WRs are great and any of them could blow up this season. None of them should tank if healthy. It more or less comes down to who is in the best situation and who is an injury concern.

[LSUtiger 9]

Guess I am way in the minority (I usually am), but my top 6 looks like this:

 

1. Dez - The Scott Linehan presence.

2. DT - The Peyton Manning presence, and is very consistent year over year.

3. Julio - No presence of defense, and the pace he was on last year before injury, cannot be ignored.

4. Calvin - The presence of viable option on the outside in Tate finally gives Stafford another option, not to mention Ebron (though I am not high on Ebron to do a whole lost this year)

5. Jeffery - The presence of Cutler is ideal for Marshall obviously, but Jeffery is a big time play maker who does more with less, than Marshall does. I'm taking him before Marshall.

6. Jordy - The presence of Rogers can't be underestimated. Contract year too. Nelson will have a big year as long as ARod stays healthy.

 

Note: I have AJ Green at #10. I think the presence of Hue Jackson is going to greatly diminish the passing output from the Bengals this year as Dalton becomes more of a game manager. Jackson is a run first OC and his Raider teams were near the top of the league in rushing. Marvin Jones is going to play a lot more snaps than he played under Gruden as well. Simply put, Dalton is not going to be throwing nearly as much as he has the past few seasons. Green will still get his for sure, but there will be a regression, and it's enough for me to move some other guys ahead of him.

 

I like your list and also your prediction of Jeffery outperforming Marshall this year. As a Marshall owner last year, he's as steady as they come, but his ceiling went gradually down as the season progressed and Jeffery emerged. He's a target monster no doubt and will get you plenty of 6-80-0 TD games. Which is nice, but IMO he's not that guy who's going to give you a few of the 150+ yard 2 TD games like the other top guys can do.

 

I really, really want to buy into the Dez hype again with Linehan coming in, but I owned him last year and took him as my first WR in at least two leagues. Given his hype last year, I was disappointed ultimately. That being said, one of the biggest fantasy no-nos is not drafting a player because he burned you in the past.

[jdon 28]

for me, I value stability and predictability from my first and second round picks more than anything else...

 

with that in mind:

 

1.) B. Marshall - dude is a beast, has a solid offense to be a part of and, with the emergence of Jeffery teams cannot lock in on Marshall. If I was to poll people on the wide reciever most likely to have 1200 yards and 10 touchdowns i think marshall would win even over Calvin.

 

2.) AJ Green - Him and dalton are locked in, the emergence of Marvin Jones and Giovanni Bernard help him as well. i know they have a new OC and being run first, what I don't understand is why people think this will hurt AJ; I see the play action benefitting Green and helping to stabalize his rise to a top 3 wide out.

 

3.) Demario Thomas - peyton fuckin gmanning. nuff said

 

4.) Dez - Dude is a beast and seems to have found consistency the last year or so.

 

5.) Julio is not in my top 10 recievers at this point for redraft. I worry about his foot recovering as much as I worry about the collapse of Atlanta as we know it. First thing first Sjax is done, gonzo is gone, and who knows what R. White has left in his tank...

 

jdon

 

[DrG 94]

Conceptually if u lump te and wr together graham is in here right behind calvin

[Boilermaker04 11]

I have Brown over Marshall this year...

[tanatastic 2,061]

People who are saying the presence of Tate affects Calvin are smoking crack. First off, Tate is better at stealing donuts than catching footballs, he's ok but nothing special. Second, the mere notion of a mortal wr making Calvin less effective is laughable. If anything if a stud was on the other side of Calvin it would help him.

[Mr Neil 63]

I have Brown over Marshall this year...

^^ this. Can't believe no one has Antonio Brown in there top 5. He is legit. I have layed three future bets this year and one of them is Brown leads league in Rec Yds at 17.5 to 1 odds. He wasn't far off last year. He is my value pick as a cheap WR1

[Djgb13 2,338]

^^ this. Can't believe no one has Antonio Brown in there top 5. He is legit. I have layed three future bets this year and one of them is Brown leads league in Rec Yds at 17.5 to 1 odds. He wasn't far off last year. He is my value pick as a cheap WR1

Pretty sure the reason being these guys above are unquestionably studs. Now some people may have a good year and make it into the top 5 but the guys listed above are consistently studs no question about it. No one knows for sure if Brown will be a stud but everyone is certain these guys will be

[Matt Mueller 146]

^^ this. Can't believe no one has Antonio Brown in there top 5. He is legit. I have layed three future bets this year and one of them is Brown leads league in Rec Yds at 17.5 to 1 odds. He wasn't far off last year. He is my value pick as a cheap WR1

 

I like that bet a lot.

 

In PPR sure I can see Brown top 5 but in standard it's just tough for me put a 5'10 186 dude over any of these WRs. These guys are all prototypical #1s.

 

Although the team did just lose Cotchery and his 10 redzone tds...

[snatchit 108]

" I want to buy into the hype with Dez Bryant but last year I was disappointed ?" Que' ?

[Bishop82 61]

D. Thomas

C. Johnson

B. Marshall

AJ Green

D. Bryant

J. Jones

[Breesman32 11]

Guess I am way in the minority (I usually am), but my top 6 looks like this:

 

1. Dez - The Scott Linehan presence.

2. DT - The Peyton Manning presence, and is very consistent year over year.

3. Julio - No presence of defense, and the pace he was on last year before injury, cannot be ignored.

4. Calvin - The presence of viable option on the outside in Tate finally gives Stafford another option, not to mention Ebron (though I am not high on Ebron to do a whole lost this year)

5. Jeffery - The presence of Cutler is ideal for Marshall obviously, but Jeffery is a big time play maker who does more with less, than Marshall does. I'm taking him before Marshall.

6. Jordy - The presence of Rogers can't be underestimated. Contract year too. Nelson will have a big year as long as ARod stays healthy.

 

Note: I have AJ Green at #10. I think the presence of Hue Jackson is going to greatly diminish the passing output from the Bengals this year as Dalton becomes more of a game manager. Jackson is a run first OC and his Raider teams were near the top of the league in rushing. Marvin Jones is going to play a lot more snaps than he played under Gruden as well. Simply put, Dalton is not going to be throwing nearly as much as he has the past few seasons. Green will still get his for sure, but there will be a regression, and it's enough for me to move some other guys ahead of him.

Contract years have not proven anything recently. Graham was in a contract year last year. What happened? He got hurt. He still put up the numbers he always put up but he was banged up. I don't like where Jordy is ranked this year and he in an injury risk.

[Breesman32 11]

for me, I value stability and predictability from my first and second round picks more than anything else...

 

with that in mind:

 

1.) B. Marshall - dude is a beast, has a solid offense to be a part of and, with the emergence of Jeffery teams cannot lock in on Marshall. If I was to poll people on the wide reciever most likely to have 1200 yards and 10 touchdowns i think marshall would win even over Calvin.

 

2.) AJ Green - Him and dalton are locked in, the emergence of Marvin Jones and Giovanni Bernard help him as well. i know they have a new OC and being run first, what I don't understand is why people think this will hurt AJ; I see the play action benefitting Green and helping to stabalize his rise to a top 3 wide out.

 

3.) Demario Thomas - peyton fuckin gmanning. nuff said

 

4.) Dez - Dude is a beast and seems to have found consistency the last year or so.

 

5.) Julio is not in my top 10 recievers at this point for redraft. I worry about his foot recovering as much as I worry about the collapse of Atlanta as we know it. First thing first Sjax is done, gonzo is gone, and who knows what R. White has left in his tank...

 

jdon

 

Teams will defend Marshall the same way. Its not like the bears won games last year when Jeffery lit it up. Cutler throws to Marshall more and thats who he targeted. Jeffery's best games two of them was with McCown under center. If people do not pay attention to stuff like this they are going to be disappointed. Cutler and Marshall go back to when they played with Denver. That just will not be stopped and Jeffery has nothing to do with it.

[Breesman32 11]

 

I like that bet a lot.

 

In PPR sure I can see Brown top 5 but in standard it's just tough for me put a 5'10 186 dude over any of these WRs. These guys are all prototypical #1s.

 

Although the team did just lose Cotchery and his 10 redzone tds...

While they moved up Markus Wheaton to the no.2 spot. Doesnt change much, Cotchery got those catches from corners being on Brown such as Talib in the NE game.

[Breesman32 11]

" I want to buy into the hype with Dez Bryant but last year I was disappointed ?" Que' ?

Having another target to throw to doesnt make your production better, it takes away from you. DCs are not gonna stop doing what they were doing with the elite receivers because of another threat, they defend who the qb has the best rapport with. In Bryant's case, Witten benefitted from him being covered. And if Romo faces a strong pass rush he has to throw it to Witten more. Dez is a wr I am not crazy about either. He does nothing against the giants, and last year was bad against the redskins. Looking at his schedule this year.

49ers........Witten game here, 49ers have some defense and that could affect Dez

@Titans....neither, Murray game here Dez could get a score but don't expect 100 receiving yards in a game where Romo doesnt even need to throw to him.

@Rams....Dez game here, Rams have a good secondary but I think Dez gets late yards here.

Saints.......Dez will probably do well here but saints have good corner. They have better safeties which hurts Witten.

Texans......Kareem on Dez, and Clowney rushing Romo, this is another Witten friendly game

@Seahawks.....Witten. Sherman on Dez

Giants..........Witten, we already know.

Redskins......Dez, even though last year was bad he's not having b2b clunkers.

Cards..........Witten hands down.

vs.Jaguars....Dez could have a good game here early on while Murray runs it out later.

@Giants......Witten again.

Eagles.........Both Dez and Witten will do well here.

@Bears.......Witten but this is unpredictable

@Eagles......Dez in a game where they will be playing from behind

Colts............Dez in a game with shootout potential

 

Dez is money in postseason, but a lot of games where he's facing strong secondaries.

[vrabinec 19]

Dez's production rests squarely on how well Romo's back is doing. If Romo's back is fine, then I think he throws for around 4900 like he did two years ago, and Dez will get the lion's share of that. At that point, unless he's up against Seattle, he's gonna have a big day. Of course, if Romo's back is still a problem, then he probably doesn't break 4000 again, they rely on Murray a lot more, and Dez loses out.

[$epphori$ 118]

Didnt Jefferies blow up twice last year going over 200 rec yards in a game? Once with 4 TDs and a couple more the other? Wasnt this with McCown at QB? If true take away those stats and was he really consistent to be in the top 5? Cutler and Marshall are in bed togetgher, no way he feeds Jefferies more than marshall. Am I wrong?

[Frozenbeernuts 1,652]

Its jeffery. Im not sure that anyone is claiming top 5 for alshon. I certainly havent seen him drafted as such. I doubt he has as big of a game as those 2 last year, but the bears offense will have enough volume to make him a top 10.

[DrG 94]

Part of the above is why I probably won't draft Jay Cutler. It would make all the sense in the world for him to target Jeffery more and I won't be surprised if he doesn't. He also tends to have his stinkers late in the year ...

[Gepetto 982]

My rankings from a couple of months ago. I could move Demaryius Thomas to 2 and drop Brandon Marshall to 4. Hard to say, I have these guys all pretty close.

1 Calvin Johnson 2 Brandon Marshall 3 Dez Bryant 4 AJ Green 5 Demaryius Thomas 6 Alshon Jeffery 7 Julio Jones

[tanatastic 2,061]

Didnt Jefferies blow up twice last year going over 200 rec yards in a game? Once with 4 TDs and a couple more the other? Wasnt this with McCown at QB? If true take away those stats and was he really consistent to be in the top 5? Cutler and Marshall are in bed togetgher, no way he feeds Jefferies more than marshall. Am I wrong?

I lean towards this. I never pay full price for a miracle season with huge games to pad stats. Marshall is the top guy and if Alshon breaks 1k ill consider it a good year for him, but i wont draft him as some team carrying WR1 like others have made him out to be. He comes well after established guys like roddy, fitz, andre J and even Victor cruz to me. Ill ake Alshon right before guys like Torrey Smith who i feel will be a similar player to him.