edjr 5,554 Posted July 22, 2014 Leave it to scotland to have the ryder cup at a hotel. Updated July 22, 2014 top 9 are automatic and the captain gets 3 picks. USA RANK PREVIOUS PLAYER POINTS THRU 7/21/14 1 1 Bubba WATSON* 6,828.138 2 2 Jimmy WALKER 5,510.205 3 7 Rickie FOWLER 5,403.253 4 6 Jim FURYK 5,259.594 5 3 Dustin JOHNSON 5,133.807 6 5 Jordan SPIETH 4,781.827 7 4 Matt KUCHAR 4,764.065 8 8 Jason DUFNER 3,516.345 9 9 Zach JOHNSON 3,450.894 10 10 Patrick REED 3,301.393 11 12 Phil MICKELSON 3,252.838 12 11 Brendon TODD 3,250.483 13 14 Chris KIRK 3,226.883 14 17 Ryan MOORE 3,118.872 15 13 Webb SIMPSON 3,086.070 16 18 Keegan BRADLEY 3,016.698 17 15 Harris ENGLISH 2,966.569 18 16 Kevin NA 2,878.818 19 20 Matt EVERY 2,471.806 20 19 Erik COMPTON 2,458.793 Would be an absolute embarrassment for Watson to pick Tiger and Phil, fock them. Leave them at home. Anyone know what Jeff Gilooly is doing? Have him pay Furyk a visit. I'm tired of his act and choking during the Ryder Cup, he can't handle it. EUROPE EUROPEAN POINTS LIST THRU 7/20/14 Rory MCILROY 3,051,298.44 Victor DUBUISSON 2,631,723.27 Jamie DONALDSON 2,398,823.78 Henrik STENSON 2,393,504.67 Thomas BJORN 2,351,204.85 Martin KAYMER 1,968,602.18 Ian POULTER 1,910,151.26 Justin ROSE 1,846,094.97 Sergio GARCIA 1,835,656.78 Joost LUITEN 1,568,079.36 Miguel Angel JIMENEZ 1,534,565.59 Stephen GALLACHER 1,533,128.91 Graeme MCDOWELL 1,522,516.54 WORLD POINTS LIST THRU 7/20/14 Rory MCILROY 358.26 Henrik STENSON 346.99 Sergio GARCIA 317.40 Justin ROSE 261.33 Martin KAYMER 245.87 Thomas BJORN 193.77 Victor DUBUISSON 186.97 Luke DONALD 162.44 Jamie DONALDSON 162.23 Stephen GALLACHER 154.44 Graeme MCDOWELL 150.93 Ian POULTER 147.43 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted July 22, 2014 Does Scotland have any golf courses that don't look like landfills? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,554 Posted July 22, 2014 Does Scotland have any golf courses that don't look like landfills? Maybe the one Trump built? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted July 22, 2014 Maybe the one Trump built? Glen eagles actually is maybe the best looking of the scotish courses though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,554 Posted July 22, 2014 http://www.gleneagles.com/golf/golf-courses/pga-centenary-course/virtual-course-guide Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted July 22, 2014 Maybe the one Trump built? Didn't that course get shut down or something? I admit it did look pretty nice though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted July 22, 2014 Maybe the one Trump built? It has always made me like WTF when most of the so called "great" scottish courses would be under a 100 bucks to play if they were here in the US. I played ST Andrews and 3 other courses in Scotland with my old man a little bit ago and to be honest while I appreciated the history and the greens were some of the toughest I have played none of them were much to look at (we both pn the plane came back saying - while it was good to say we played ST Andrews once we would both of been off just going to the Peeble resorts again)... MUCH better courses IMO in Ireland than Scotland. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,554 Posted July 22, 2014 Gleneagles has 6 courses it looks like. must be a HUGE piece of property. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,554 Posted July 22, 2014 Didn't that course get shut down or something? I admit it did look pretty nice though I think they were trying to put up turbines and he said he'll close the course down if they do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fumbleweed 423 Posted July 22, 2014 Wouldn't surprise me at all if Brendon Todd played well enough to get an auto berth between now and mid-August. That would make the US choices even tougher. And, I hope for our sake that Luke Donald makes the European team. He hasn't played well in quite a while. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,554 Posted July 23, 2014 And, I hope for our sake that Luke Donald makes the European team. He hasn't played well in quite a while. Nor has Poulter, you know he'll be a captain's pick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted July 23, 2014 The US has an incredibly strong team. Phil is pretty much an automatic Captain's pick if he does not play his way on. If Tiger gets a win between now and then, I would think that Watson would add him for his leadership. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,554 Posted July 23, 2014 The US has an incredibly strong team. they did last time as well. Typical of the players playing on Sunday, gagged away the victory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,992 Posted July 23, 2014 It has always made me like WTF when most of the so called "great" scottish courses would be under a 100 bucks to play if they were here in the US. I played ST Andrews and 3 other courses in Scotland with my old man a little bit ago and to be honest while I appreciated the history and the greens were some of the toughest I have played none of them were much to look at (we both pn the plane came back saying - while it was good to say we played ST Andrews once we would both of been off just going to the Peeble resorts again)... MUCH better courses IMO in Ireland than Scotland. You see those golf courses and you see landfills and wasteland. I scan over them and I see Alan Robertson, Old Tom Morris, and Young Tom Morris hitting the ball to the same greens and pins they are today. There is an amazing beauty connected to that . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,992 Posted July 23, 2014 The US has an incredibly strong team. Phil is pretty much an automatic Captain's pick if he does not play his way on. If Tiger gets a win between now and then, I would think that Watson would add him for his leadership. We have what we always have - a strong collection of talented players. What we don't have, what we haven't had in a long time, is a team. With TW and Furyk on the squad I'd start preparing the losing speech. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,554 Posted July 23, 2014 We have what we always have - a strong collection of talented players. What we don't have, what we haven't had in a long time, is a team. With TW and Furyk on the squad I'd start preparing the losing speech. Cruzer, always the man of reasoning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,554 Posted July 23, 2014 Lets see Ryder Cup records. Jim Furyk - Years Played: 1997-99-2002-04-06-08-10 Total Matches: 27 Career Ryder Cup Record (W-L-H): 8-15-4 Team is 2 and 5 when he is on the team. Nippleson Years Played: 1995-97-99-2002-04-06-08-10 Total Matches: 34 Career Ryder Cup Record (W-L-H): 11-17-6 Team is 2 and 6 when he is on the team. Tiger Years Played: 1997-99-2002-04-06-10 Total Matches: 29 Career Ryder Cup Record (W-L-H): 13-14-2 Team is 2 and 4 when he is on the team It's time for some new blood people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
patweisers44 697 Posted July 23, 2014 All Patrick Reed has done since declaring himself the best player on the planet is play himself OFF the Ryder Cup team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,554 Posted July 23, 2014 All Patrick Reed has done since declaring himself the best player on the planet is play himself OFF the Ryder Cup team. he declared himself top 5. Why do you enjoy losing with the same choking dogs, time and time again? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,992 Posted July 23, 2014 Maybe I have "Good Old Day" syndrome, but it just seems the RC doesn't burn hot or mean much to the new crop of American players today. Least not like it did back during the 70's, 80's, and 90's. Back then we had the likes of L. Wadkiins, R. Floyd, J. Miller, H. Irwin, C. Strange, L. Trevino, H. Sutton - I mean these guys flat out hated to lose. They'd rather chew off a digit than lose their matches. Now it seems like nothing more than an exhibition to these guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,554 Posted July 23, 2014 Maybe I have "Good Old Day" syndrome, but it just seems the RC doesn't burn hot or mean much to the new crop of American players today. Least not like it did back during the 70's, 80's, and 90's. Back then we had the likes of L. Wadkiins, R. Floyd, J. Miller, H. Irwin, C. Strange, L. Trevino, H. Sutton - I mean these guys flat out hated to lose. They'd rather chew off a digit than lose their matches. Now it seems like nothing more than an exhibition to these guys. Remember back in the late 90s early 2000s, they were b1tching about wanting to be paid to play in the Ryder Cup? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,171 Posted July 23, 2014 So you want tiger and phil left off the team.... for who exactly? The Americans look horribly out gunned. I'm all for leaving tiger and phil at home but I don't see anyone else that excites me, including some that are currently automatic births Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,171 Posted July 23, 2014 I'll say I can see tiger off if he's not playing well because hes never been much of a team guy but all the younger guys seem to love phil. I doubt he'll be left off if he's in the top 12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,554 Posted July 23, 2014 So you want tiger and phil left off the team.... for who exactly? The Americans look horribly out gunned. I'm all for leaving tiger and phil at home but I don't see anyone else that excites me, including some that are currently automatic births Ryder Cup needs more Boo Weekley types. Guys that are out there having fun, having some emotion. I'll take Patrick Reed, Brendon Todd, Keegan Bradley, Brian Harman over Tiger and and Furyk We lose every year, what the fock would trying new blood hurt? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,171 Posted July 23, 2014 Ryder Cup needs more Boo Weekley types. Guys that are out there having fun, having some emotion. I'll take Patrick Reed, Brendon Todd, Keegan Bradley, Brian Harman over Tiger and and Furyk We lose every year, what the fock would trying new blood hurt? It won't hurt I'm just Not seeing anyone that jumps out at me. Reed maybe but that's 1 of 3. Todd is playing well but he's ho hum. The guy I'd live to see get back on track and play his way into consideration is Billy horschel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,554 Posted July 23, 2014 It won't hurt I'm just Not seeing anyone that jumps out at me. Reed maybe but that's 1 of 3. Todd is playing well but he's ho hum. The guy I'd live to see get back on track and play his way into consideration is Billy horschel I like Horschel, a lot and pat perez. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,171 Posted July 23, 2014 Phil and Keegan played well together Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,992 Posted July 23, 2014 Phil and Keegan played well together I still can't believe DL3 sat them two Saturday afternoon. What a moronic thing to do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
patweisers44 697 Posted July 23, 2014 Ed, I think you misread my post from the british open thread. I basically was saying that if phil or tiger had even above average Ryder Cup records, you take them. They way they are playing now combined with shioty ryder cup records, you don't. From a European standpoint, you have Poulter and Donald who are both struggling, however due to their records at Ryder Cup, I make them captains picks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,171 Posted July 23, 2014 Ian Poulter IS the Ryder cup Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,554 Posted July 23, 2014 Ian Poulter IS the Ryder cup Poulter, Garcia - US has no one close to them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,171 Posted July 23, 2014 Bubba, Ricky and Spieth are about the only 3 I have any confidence in looking at our top 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,554 Posted July 23, 2014 Bubba, Ricky and Spieth are about the only 3 I have any confidence in looking at our top 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,992 Posted July 23, 2014 Bubba, Ricky and Spieth are about the only 3 I have any confidence in looking at our top 9. D. Johnson ran the tables at the '12 RC - was 3-0-0. He's playing really well right now and I feel almost as good about him as I do anyone on our team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,554 Posted July 23, 2014 D. Johnson ran the tables at the '12 RC - was 3-0-0. He's playing really well right now and I feel almost as good about him as I do anyone on our team. He has the personality of a gnat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,992 Posted July 23, 2014 He has the personality of a gnat So did Larry Nelson - who by the way had a career RC record of 9-3-1. Nelson is famously known as the only player to ever go 5-0 during a single RC event - did so in 1979. I don't care if the dude is a mute, if he has stones and can play - play him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted July 23, 2014 He has the personality of a gnat Possibly. I get the idea that he will never have the type of facial lines associated with deep thought, if you get my drift. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted July 23, 2014 You see those golf courses and you see landfills and wasteland. I scan over them and I see Alan Robertson, Old Tom Morris, and Young Tom Morris hitting the ball to the same greens and pins they are today. There is an amazing beauty connected to that . Not saying I don appreicate the history just saying not a single course i Scotland would be a top 100 course in the US w/o fatorign in the history, Not 1 course in Scot land is as good as any of the big 3 courses in Peeble beach ( Cypress, Peeble, Spyglass) . But hey is Pot hole bunkers , large very fast greens, and grass that loos like there's no groundskeeper is your thing go for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted July 23, 2014 he declared himself top 5. Why do you enjoy losing with the same choking dogs, time and time again? is he top 5 ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
patweisers44 697 Posted July 24, 2014 Dustin Johnson looks like a retarded version of Wolverine with that stupid beard of his. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites