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Ive hiked it multiple times. Its not too dangerous if you take it slow on the exposed sections - just a couple hundred feet, and there are fixed ropes where it is sketchiest. Go in the summer to avoid the rain, which makes the trail slippery and streams impassable.

 

All that being said, Kauai is a disaster area after recent floods. Last I heard, the road to the trailhead is still blocked by debris. Actually have a friend that was hiking it during the bad storms and had to desert their rental car.

Sad to hear, Kauai was my favorite vacation spot which I've mentioned here before. :(

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You ever done the road to hana on Maui? That is perhaps the most beautiful place Ive ever seen.

Multiple times. Rappelled waterfalls right off the road. The problem is, the drive is paiiinnnnfuullly slow.

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This is Jiuzhaigou in Sichuan China, which has potential to be my favorite place. It does look like the pictures except for one important aspect ... the pictures leave out the crowds of people. Unfortunately, all of China knows about Jiuzhaigou, Yogi Berra may well be talking about this place when he says "Soon people will stop going there because it's too crowded." It's probably really nice to visit at a time when China isn't on a national holiday, which sadly are the only times I CAN go.

https://www.google.com/search?q=jiuzhaigou&newwindow=1&pws=0&gl=us&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwif6Pjkmp3bAhUDU7wKHcLaAs4Q_AUICigB&biw=1026&bih=606

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looks wonderful... damn crowds!

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Sad to hear, Kauai was my favorite vacation spot which I've mentioned here before. :(

Princeville Resort is awesome

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This is Jiuzhaigou in Sinchuan China, which has potential to be my favorite place. It does look like the pictures except for one important aspect ... the pictures leave out the crowds of people. Unfortunately, all of China knows about Jiuzhaigou, Yogi Berra may well be talking about this place when he says "Soon people will stop going there because it's too crowded." It's probably really nice to visit at a time when China isn't on a national holiday, which sadly are the only times I CAN go.

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=jiuzhaigou&newwindow=1&pws=0&gl=us&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwif6Pjkmp3bAhUDU7wKHcLaAs4Q_AUICigB&biw=1026&bih=606

Jiuzhaigou looks awesome.

 

one of the pics:

https://cdntct.com/tct/pic/city/jiuzhaigou/attractions/jiuzhaigou-scenic-area-20.jpg

:lol:

 

 

Asians love snapping photos of nature. Americans are the same way.

 

That pic looks like Yosemite or Grand Canyon or Angel's Landing

 

https://s.hdnux.com/photos/07/02/00/1843219/55/920x920.jpg

 

https://grandcanyondestinations.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Great-Reasons-to-Visit-the-Grand-Canyon-South-Rim-Tour-for-your-Next-Vacation-1024x451.jpg

 

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-0Std7JBlJMw/VXRnGYfRZrI/AAAAAAAARXE/x71jfIWT9Oc/s1600/P1030488.JPG

 

 

I bet that place in China is the same as all the American parks though, you get more than 1 mile from the parking lot and you will have the place practically to yourself.

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Boring to you all, but I gotta say my own yard.

 

The basketball hoop is solid and true.

 

The grill and smoker are always at the ready

 

The hammock is set up beneath a lone Ash tree.

 

The garage is perfectly organized with all the necessary tools and materials to start and finish any project.

 

The side yard is a perfectly manicured 150 x 75. Perfect for playing catch, bags or fetch with the dog.

 

All the flower beds around the house have a fresh layer of black mulch and the flowers and plants are coming in nicely.

 

Right now, the grass is greener than leprechaun crap.

 

I plan to spend the entire 3 day weekend there.

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Princeville Resort is awesome

 

Agreed. We stayed at a B&B near Hanalei Bay (sp?) near Princeville. That golf course was by far the most lush, perfectly manicured course I've ever played. I played as a single with a guy who ran IBM Services, a $2B+ business at the time. We invited our wives for drinks in the lounge watching the sunset. Good times. :cheers:

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Agreed. We stayed at a B&B near Hanalei Bay (sp?) near Princeville. That golf course was by far the most lush, perfectly manicured course I've ever played. I played as a single with a guy who ran IBM Services, a $2B+ business at the time. We invited our wives for drinks in the lounge watching the sunset. Good times. :cheers:

Yes. Great course. One of the things I loved about it the area was the relative seclusion.

 

No shortage of peace, quiet and solitude if you wanted it.

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Jiuzhaigou looks awesome.

 

one of the pics:

https://cdntct.com/tct/pic/city/jiuzhaigou/attractions/jiuzhaigou-scenic-area-20.jpg

:lol:

 

 

Asians love snapping photos of nature. Americans are the same way.

 

That pic looks like Yosemite or Grand Canyon or Angel's Landing

 

https://s.hdnux.com/photos/07/02/00/1843219/55/920x920.jpg

 

https://grandcanyondestinations.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Great-Reasons-to-Visit-the-Grand-Canyon-South-Rim-Tour-for-your-Next-Vacation-1024x451.jpg

 

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-0Std7JBlJMw/VXRnGYfRZrI/AAAAAAAARXE/x71jfIWT9Oc/s1600/P1030488.JPG

 

 

I bet that place in China is the same as all the American parks though, you get more than 1 mile from the parking lot and you will have the place practically to yourself.

Well, two things to know.

 

1) The public transportation is overwhelmed. To get on the bus, you have to keep your family close and embrace your inner Karl Malone - stand in the paint, block out, and swing your elbows. For me, this would be quite the challenge in the US, but since the opponents are Chinese, it's an easy trick for most of us to pull off.

 

2) When you get there- yes, the picture you point out, the one that the Chinese Bureau of Tourism wouldn't want you to see- is the reality of Jiuzhaigou. They're all real, but this one is the most accurate. And the whole place is roped off to prevent people from actually interacting with the environment. Fortunately, the Chinese make good lemmings and obey the ropes and go where they're supposed to. Eventually the crowds move and they an get a nice picture to post online for their friends. Get a few dozen pictures like that, and they're happy as could be. For you however, the idea once you get there is to embrace your inner TBBOM and go under/over the rope. It's not hard to disappear into the environment and have a peaceful/quiet moment if you're willing to break the rules.

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Well, two things to know.

 

1) The public transportation is overwhelmed. To get on the bus, you have to keep your family close and embrace your inner Karl Malone - stand in the paint, block out, and swing your elbows. For me, this would be quite the challenge in the US, but since the opponents are Chinese, it's an easy trick for most of us to pull off.

 

2) When you get there- yes, the picture you point out, the one that the Chinese Bureau of Tourism wouldn't want you to see- is the reality of Jiuzhaigou. They're all real, but this one is the most accurate. And the whole place is roped off to prevent people from actually interacting with the environment. Fortunately, the Chinese make good lemmings and obey the ropes and go where they're supposed to. Eventually the crowds move and you an get a nice picture. Get a few dozen pictures like that, and they're happy as could be. For you however, the idea once you get there is to embrace your inner TBBOM and go under/over the rope. It's not hard to disappear into the environment and have a peaceful/quiet moment if you're willing to break the rules.

Yep. I never travel In china for these very reasons.

 

I have learned the following if one must though.

 

1. Dont leave the house on a holiday, unless to go to the airport and get the fock out of the country altogether.

 

2. As you said, gotta be a d!ck. We have a system. My fiancé will grab on to my belt, so she doesnt get swept away, and I swing elbows, box out, and hip check for all Im worth.

 

3. Fock public transit. Hire a driver. I dont do slow trains either. Fock that.

 

4. The ropes? I cant read the signs. So sorry. Im just a stupid foreigner. They are in English you say? I am Russian, kan bu dong.

 

They destroy the natural beauty anyway. Have to build concrete steps the whole way up a mountain. Cant have a simple scenic trail. And we must have a noodle stand every half mile or so.

 

We are thinking of going to zhangjiajie (the avatar place) in August when we get back from the Philippines. Its not a holiday, so maybe it wont make me want to kill myself.

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Gladiator - where?

 

No way on that Hawaii trail.

 

Get me Aspens and a babbling Brook and preferably a Mtn view.

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