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Pardon my ignorance as I've checked out recently on politics for the most part. Here is what I (think) I know.

 

There were Russian "bots" or fake accounts on Twitter, tweeting things like information and anti Hillary stuff.

 

1. So nothing about the actual ELECTION process was compromised. As in voting booths, how votes are tallied, so on and so forth..... is this correct?

 

2. Isn't Twitter a global social network?

 

There has to be something huge I am missing here. Did Russian spies STEAL information from confidential government servers and then post them on Twitter?

 

Just trying to get caught up here on the facts so far as we know them.

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Pardon my ignorance as I've checked out recently on politics for the most part. Here is what I (think) I know.

 

There were Russian "bots" or fake accounts on Twitter, tweeting things like information and anti Hillary stuff.

 

1. So nothing about the actual ELECTION process was compromised. As in voting booths, how votes are tallied, so on and so forth..... is this correct?

 

2. Isn't Twitter a global social network?

 

There has to be something huge I am missing here. Did Russian spies STEAL information from confidential government servers and then post them on Twitter?

 

Just trying to get caught up here on the facts so far as we know them.

 

Well you sure did come to the right place for that.

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They cheated Bernie out of the Democratic Nomination allowing Hillary to run a shitty campaign making Trump President.

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Well you sure did come to the right place for that.

Yeah, I'd say its a bit like college. You don't want to be this guy;

 

"Well, I didn't do the required reading, but..."

 

 

Or at work,

 

" I haven't had time to read the memos, and I know I'm coming into this a couple months later than everyone else, but can we just take 5 minutes (45) to bring me up to speed on this?"

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Pardon my ignorance as I've checked out recently on politics for the most part. Here is what I (think) I know.

 

There were Russian "bots" or fake accounts on Twitter, tweeting things like information and anti Hillary stuff.

 

1. So nothing about the actual ELECTION process was compromised. As in voting booths, how votes are tallied, so on and so forth..... is this correct?

 

2. Isn't Twitter a global social network?

 

There has to be something huge I am missing here. Did Russian spies STEAL information from confidential government servers and then post them on Twitter?

 

Just trying to get caught up here on the facts so far as we know them.

 

You haven't been paying attention. It was Obama and Hillary that rigged the election. Trump was just so popular and amazing that he overcame that.

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From James Comey...

In his statement after the hearing, Kasowitz also said Comey “admitted that there is no evidence that a single vote changed as a result of any Russian interference.”

 

 

Burr: Are you confident that no votes cast in the 2016 presidential election were altered?

Comey: I’m confident. By the time — when I left as director, I had seen no indication of that whatsoever.

 

 

https://www.factcheck.org/2017/06/the-comey-hearing/

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They didnt, it's a conspiracy theory derived from the need to hide serious crimes of the past administration.

Its beyond obvious to this point .

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Just in case you're actually legitimately interested in the subject:

 

https://www.wired.com/story/did-russia-affect-the-2016-election-its-now-undeniable/

 

You can also Bingle and find a littany of recaps from Fox. To Cnn. Find a few things in between. See above.

 

Ill read it over lunch. Thanks.

 

Also, I prolly should have just asked in the yooge arse thread about it, didn't see it at at the time. Sorry fellas.

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From James Comey...

In his statement after the hearing, Kasowitz also said Comey admitted that there is no evidence that a single vote changed as a result of any Russian interference.

 

Burr: Are you confident that no votes cast in the 2016 presidential election were altered?

Comey: Im confident. By the time when I left as director, I had seen no indication of that whatsoever.

 

 

https://www.factcheck.org/2017/06/the-comey-hearing/

These are two different statements.

 

The quote is in reference to hacking and cracking actual vocal election results and or voting booths. There is no evidence that a vote for Hillary was digitally changed to vote for Trump.

 

That is not to be conflated with whether votes were influenced prior to the voting booth via the use of trolls Bots and stolen emails Etc.

 

The conflation is a deliberate attempt by some on this side of the ocean. No one rationally believes that voting data was actually hacked and false results generated to my knowledge.

 

See article above for overview.

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Quit using the word rig...read the indictments so far.

 

What is the word du jour then? :dunno:

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Ill read it over lunch. Thanks.

 

Also, I prolly should have just asked in the yooge arse thread about it, didn't see it at at the time. Sorry fellas.

Wait, there's a thread on huge arses?

 

Dammit!

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What is the word du jour then? :dunno:

Interference...complex and state supported cyber attack.

Seriously...read the charges in those indictments z

It isnt pretty.

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Interference...complex and state supported cyber attack.

Seriously...read the charges in those indictments z

It isnt pretty.

they have a trial date yet ? Those guys are in super duper double trubble.

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No one has been able to tell me what lies or misinformation the Russians spread about Hillary.

 

 

Pizzagate ring a bell?

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they have a trial date yet ? Those guys are in super duper double trubble.

Odd how Trumpswabs callothers unamerican...but totally blow off actual intelligence and law enforcement against those who attacked our processes and infrastructure.

Pathetic how you are cheering on Trump weakening our nation.

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what lies were those ?

The Podesta emails were fakes?

That the pizza places was a cover for a child sex pedo ring in the basement that didnt exist (among others)

What about lizzagate wasnt a lie?

Or about the Seth Rich thread you started?

 

You believe Trump...thatbis wnough to show you all are the most gullible people ever.

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Odd how Trumpswabs callothers unamerican...but totally blow off actual intelligence and law enforcement against those who attacked our processes and infrastructure.

Pathetic how you are cheering on Trump weakening our nation.

Full tilt

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what lies were those ?

The Podesta emails were fakes?

 

 

so you are on record as saying the accusations of the whole pizzagate issue are true?

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Okay just read the indictment and an article summing it up.

 

So......

 

1. Pretty obvious there were Russian Spies trying to hack our pooters and give out information via social networks. That's not good. Must crack down on that.

 

2. Just read where Rand Paul said this isn't really earth shattering as this type of crap has been going on for many elections and hell even we (US) do it in other countries.

 

3. So I fail to see where this "invalidates" the 2016 Election Results whatsoever......yet, as of today.

 

4. If it does come out that Trumps administration actually paid those Russian Spies or gave them access to U.S. confidential material etc then that's where the rubber meets the road.

 

:dunno:

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Good question. Now that someone has finally asked I am confident we will come to a swift consensus and finally put this issue to rest.

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Interference...complex and state supported cyber attack.

Seriously...read the charges in those indictments z

It isnt pretty.

Hillary and the DNC rigged the election they also ran interference with support of the state (FBI, CIA). The IRS ran interference in the 2012 election. It was a great day for America when we put the corrupt Regime behind us.

 

Elections Are the Only Thing Standing in the Left’s Way.

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Well you sure did come to the right place for that.

 

 

what lies were those ?

The Podesta emails were fakes?

 

See, I was spot-on that this is the place for facts...

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Okay just read the indictment and an article summing it up.

 

So......

 

1. Pretty obvious there were Russian Spies trying to hack our pooters and give out information via social networks. That's not good. Must crack down on that.

 

2. Just read where Rand Paul said this isn't really earth shattering as this type of crap has been going on for many elections and hell even we (US) do it in other countries.

 

3. So I fail to see where this "invalidates" the 2016 Election Results whatsoever......yet, as of today.

 

4. If it does come out that Trumps administration actually paid those Russian Spies or gave them access to U.S. confidential material etc then that's where the rubber meets the road.

 

:dunno:

 

Awesome, sounds like you are truly up to date on the entire issue and completely reached an unbiased conclusion. Way to go, :thumbsup:

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Awesome, sounds like you are truly up to date on the entire issue and completely reached an unbiased conclusion. Way to go, :thumbsup:

 

Are you being sarcastic? :unsure:

 

We're all biased. What did I say that was incorrect?

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Okay just read the indictment and an article summing it up.

 

So......

 

1. Pretty obvious there were

3. So I fail to see where this "invalidates" the 2016 Election Results whatsoever......yet, as of today.

 

4. If it does come out that Trumps administration actually paid those Russian Spies or gave them access to U.S. confidential material etc then that's where the rubber meets the road.

 

:dunno:

Pretty good summary. I think only the most radical would call to invalidate this selection. Those guys are nuts.

 

And, true with number four. Like I posted yesterday again, no matter what side of a campaign you're on, when a foreign government approaches you with dirt on the other? You're supposed to go to the FBI. That's what happened during Gore bush. But in this case, trumps kid didn't know better apparently and said that it'd be neat oh! And the set up a meeting at Trump Tower with most of the pertinent players in trumps campaign. And then they lied about having the meeting. And then they lied about the nature of the meeting, adoptions. And then Hope Solo came out and said Relax, none of this will ever get leaked.

Etc..

 

There will be some hand swatting and some pardons and we'll all look back at this like we do Hanging Chads.

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Pretty good summary. I think only the most radical would call to invalidate this selection. Those guys are nuts.

 

And, true with number four. Like I posted yesterday again, no matter what side of a campaign you're on, when a foreign government approaches you with dirt on the other? You're supposed to go to the FBI. That's what happened during Gore bush. But in this case, trumps kid didn't know better apparently and said that it'd be neat oh! And the set up a meeting at Trump Tower with most of the pertinent players in trumps campaign. And then they lied about having the meeting. And then they lied about the nature of the meeting, adoptions. And then Hope Solo came out and said Relax, none of this will ever get leaked.

Etc..

 

There will be some hand swatting and some pardons and we'll all look back at this like we do Hanging Chads.

 

 

I can see this happening. Ignorance of the law isn't a reason not to follow the law but I can see where their lack of being a true "politician" and ignorance could lead them down a path where they simply didn't know better. Then the lawyers get involved to say "You idiots" you can't do that and then try to act like it never happened.

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Okay just read the indictment and an article summing it up.

 

So......

 

1. Pretty obvious there were Russian Spies trying to hack our pooters and give out information via social networks. That's not good. Must crack down on that.

 

2. Just read where Rand Paul said this isn't really earth shattering as this type of crap has been going on for many elections and hell even we (US) do it in other countries.

 

3. So I fail to see where this "invalidates" the 2016 Election Results whatsoever......yet, as of today.

 

4. If it does come out that Trumps administration actually paid those Russian Spies or gave them access to U.S. confidential material etc then that's where the rubber meets the road.

 

:dunno:

1. Succeeded...not just tried.

2. Rand Paul said that and offered nothing to support that claim

3. Nobody has stated it invalidates the election. Why the straw man?

4. Trie...right now we have an unnamed candidate/congressman who requested illegally obtained information and obtained it...and an unnamed campaign official (speculated as Riger Stone) who also had involvement...

 

What we have so far from most of these indictments is Mueller building the case for the crime by russia. One the US intelligence community agrrees with as did a foreign intel service. The indictments showed the depth of the hacking beyond Podesta and was more than trying to get access as you put it. Any next step, if he goes that way, will be in showing conspiracy to support/aide or whatever. Thats what people would deem collusion (as there is no specific crime called collusion). I believe he will hot people with conspiracy charges, possible money laundering issues as well. How high up that goes remains to be seen.

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Former CIA Director John Brennan:

 

John O. Brennan
@JohnBrennan

 

Donald Trump’s press conference performance in Helsinki rises to & exceeds the threshold of “high crimes & misdemeanors.” It was nothing short of treasonous. Not only were Trump’s comments imbecilic, he is wholly in the pocket of Putin. Republican Patriots: Where are you???

 

Guess what part of the press conference Brennan was referring...

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Hillary and the DNC rigged the election they also ran interference with support of the state (FBI, CIA). The IRS ran interference in the 2012 election. It was a great day for America when we put the corrupt Regime behind us.

 

Elections Are the Only Thing Standing in the Lefts Way.

The primary is not a full in election...not really rigged and what they did is not against the law...nor is it relevant to the discussion other the the usual deflection from brainwashed idiots like you.

The IRS did not do as you claimed either...also irrelevant to the discussion.

 

Great job being a fool again

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Former CIA Director John Brennan:

 

Guess what part of the press conference Brennan was referring...

full tilt mode for that scumbag

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I didn't see the presser. What did he say that was treasonous. That's strong language there. Geez.

 

See this is what I mean by "facts". As in things we know to be true.

 

Not a guy on twitter reading body language.

 

:dunno:

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I didn't see the presser. What did he say that was treasonous. That's strong language there. Geez.

 

 

From CNN:

 

US President Donald Trump, in a stunning rebuke of the US intelligence community, declined on Monday to endorse the US government's assessment that Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election, saying he doesn't "see any reason why" Russia would be responsible.

Instead, Trump -- standing alongside Russian President Vladimir Putin -- touted Putin's vigorous denial and pivoted to complaining about the Democratic National Committee's server and missing emails from Hillary Clinton's personal account.

"I have great confidence in my intelligence people, but I will tell you that President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today," Trump said during a joint news conference following his summit with Putin.

From Time

 

The summit began just hours after Trump blamed the United States — and not Russian election meddling or its annexation of Crimea — for a low-point in U.S.-Russia relations. The drama was playing out against a backdrop of fraying Western alliances, a new peak in the Russia investigation and fears that Moscow’s aggression may go unchallenged.

“Our relationship with Russia has NEVER been worse,” Trump tweeted Monday morning, blaming “many years of U.S. foolishness and stupidity and now, the Rigged Witch Hunt!”

The Russian foreign ministry responded by liking Trump’s tweet and then replying: “We agree.”

 

 

Both contain 1 minute clips from the presser, pretty sure it's the CNN one that got Brennan worked up.

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The primary is not a full in election...not really rigged and what they did is not against the law...nor is it relevant to the discussion other the the usual deflection from brainwashed idiots like you.

The IRS did not do as you claimed either...also irrelevant to the discussion.

Great job being a fool again

All talk and no facts and a Primary is part of the election process.

 

Study finds IRS suppression of Tea Party swung 2012 election

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/study-finds-irs-suppression-of-tea-party-swung-2012-election/article/2536756

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If the Ruskies wanted Trump to win. Why did they give Hillarys people the pee-pee dossier?

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