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#1 Mike FF Today

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Posted 06 January 2019 - 10:55 AM

Inactives:

 

Chargers: RB Troymaine Pope, G Forrest Lamp, LB Jatavis Brown, C Cole Toner, WR Dylan Cantrell, DE Anthony Lanier, NT Brandon Mebane

 

Ravens: QB Robert Griffin III, WR Jordan Lasley, LG Alex Lewis, OLB Tim Williams, DT Zach Sieler, FB/DL Patrick Ricard, CB Tavon Young

 

BAL -3.0

Total: 43.0


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Posted 06 January 2019 - 12:13 PM

The good luck on the side of the Ravens is amazing this year.  Lamar Jackson fumbles deep in the backfield and it magically rolls right back into his hands and turns it into an incompletion.  It takes a different bounce and its a Chargers defensive touchdown.



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Posted 06 January 2019 - 12:21 PM

OK, this is a completely different play on their second drive.  Ravens fumble deep in their own backfield again and recover it.  And now the Ravens fumble a THIRD time and FINALLY its Charger ball.  Yeeeeeesh.



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Posted 06 January 2019 - 12:37 PM

These look like two teams who will not be in the Super Bowl

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Posted 06 January 2019 - 12:39 PM

Tough break if Gordon is done
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Posted 06 January 2019 - 12:44 PM

Balt is fortunate to only be down 6 at the quarter pole
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Posted 06 January 2019 - 12:51 PM

These look like two teams who will not be in the Super Bowl


Not surprising that the Chargers look like crap.

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Posted 06 January 2019 - 01:00 PM

I wonder if the Ravens would have been better off with Flacco in there? I know, the Ravens won games with Jackson but I just don’t see how they beat the bolts with Jackson at QB. He looks clueless, nervous and just lost so far.

Hmmm.....

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Posted 06 January 2019 - 01:07 PM

9-0 Chargers with about 3:22 left in the half.  This will be interesting to see exactly what sort of hurry up offense the Ravens have, because they've never needed one until now ever since Lamar Jackson became their QB.



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Posted 06 January 2019 - 01:08 PM

Swirling winds gusting to 20-30 mph.  Not surprising its a low scoring game and neither team wants to throw.



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Posted 06 January 2019 - 01:29 PM

Whoever is making that screeching noise needs to be disemboweled.

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Posted 06 January 2019 - 01:49 PM

Swirling winds gusting to 20-30 mph.  Not surprising its a low scoring game and neither team wants to throw.


If it's that windy then Jackson is the right play at qb.

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Posted 06 January 2019 - 01:53 PM

Jackson with zero pocket awareness on that sack. He is so lost. Flacco is probably not much better though

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Posted 06 January 2019 - 01:55 PM

You have to put in flacco at this point, he's done it before, season on the line and Jackson looks lost it's a no-brainer

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Posted 06 January 2019 - 02:01 PM

Lamar Jackson 17 yards passing.  At some point, if they trail by 2 scores late, I have to think they gotta bring Joe Flacco in to sling it around.



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Posted 06 January 2019 - 02:01 PM

Why is this so obvious to everyone but the guy who makes the decision? What am I missing?

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Posted 06 January 2019 - 02:02 PM

OK, we all had the same thought on Flacco lol.



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Posted 06 January 2019 - 02:20 PM

Rivers with a poor throw. Not surprising. The dude completely comes up short in big moments, which is surprising since he seems like one of the cockiesr qbs in the league. I hope Balt wins because I just never liked Rivers

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Posted 06 January 2019 - 02:25 PM

The entire season now depends on a ref call pretty much.



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Posted 06 January 2019 - 02:27 PM

Fumble....

 

but they won't get the TD because it was blown dead


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Posted 06 January 2019 - 02:27 PM

Should’ve been a TD on the previous play...
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Posted 06 January 2019 - 02:29 PM

How the fuk did they they spot the ball at the one yard line after the 2nd down play? The nose literally shoulda been on the GL

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Posted 06 January 2019 - 02:30 PM

How the fuk did they they spot the ball at the one yard line after the 2nd down play? The nose literally shoulda been on the GL

 

I don't know what's happening on that series.



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Posted 06 January 2019 - 02:31 PM

Chargers win.....unless they put Flacco in and he somehow pulls off the miracle


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Posted 06 January 2019 - 02:32 PM

BTW, that Gordon ball was clearly coming loose before he hit the ground. Extremely questionable call.


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Posted 06 January 2019 - 02:34 PM

BTW, that Gordon ball was clearly coming loose before he hit the ground. Extremely questionable call.

 

Disagree.  Could have gone any of the 3 ways (TD, down by contact or fumble).  Very hard call to make, IMO.



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Posted 06 January 2019 - 02:35 PM

Crowd not happy to see Jackson trotting onto the field.
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Posted 06 January 2019 - 02:36 PM

I drank the Harbaugh cool-aid like a lot of people but if you can be this brain dead in a playoff game? I am flummoxed

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Posted 06 January 2019 - 02:38 PM

The curse of the running QB continues.

 

He can win you games, but if you can't win throwing from the pocket, you're not going to win the Super Bowl.


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Posted 06 January 2019 - 02:40 PM

The curse of the running QB continues.
 
He can win you games, but if you can't win throwing from the pocket, you're not going to win the Super Bowl.


There have been running QBs who can at least throw the ball sometimes. Jackson not so much.
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Posted 06 January 2019 - 02:53 PM

The curse of the running QB continues.
 
He can win you games, but if you can't win throwing from the pocket, you're not going to win the Super Bowl.

  

There have been running QBs who can at least throw the ball sometimes. Jackson not so much.


Yeah, he can’t throw worth a crap. Zero presence, just wants to run. MOBILE QBs are good and have won titles. Running QBs are a novelty and ultimately have little use. There is a difference between the two. The first type is viable for the NFL. The other type is not.

It’s his first year and all but he’s going to have to improve as a passer, just like josh Allen of the Bills who seemed more interested in running than passing. That’s not going to cut it in the NFL.

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Posted 06 January 2019 - 02:57 PM

Yeah, he can’t throw worth a crap. Zero presence, just wants to run. MOBILE QBs are good and have won titles. Running QBs are a novelty and ultimately have little use. There is a difference between the two. The first type is viable for the NFL. The other type is not.

It’s his first year and all but he’s going to have to improve as a passer, just like josh Allen of the Bills who seemed more interested in running than passing. That’s not going to cut it in the NFL.

 

Great post.   :first:

 

Still can't believe NFL teams still draft these type of QBs.  There is a reason they're running all the time - because they can't throw worth a lick.  Why would you draft or sign a QB that can't throw a forward pass?



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Posted 06 January 2019 - 03:10 PM

I don't think Jackson and Allen are the same type of running QB.  Allen has a huge arm.  He was running because he had no OL or WR corp.  Jackson on the other hand can't throw a ball and judging by his interviews isn't the sharpest.  You don't have to be a genius to be successful at QB, but I don't think that he has the needed processing speed.



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Posted 06 January 2019 - 03:19 PM

Chickenshat hold call

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Posted 06 January 2019 - 03:24 PM

The Ravens' season couldn't have ended a better way than a Lamar Jackson fumble.

 

Now let's go blast the Patriots!



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Posted 06 January 2019 - 03:33 PM

 

Great post.   :first:

 

Still can't believe NFL teams still draft these type of QBs.  There is a reason they're running all the time - because they can't throw worth a lick.  Why would you draft or sign a QB that can't throw a forward pass?

To quote a famous Admiral: It's a trap.

 

They show enough promise in college that coaches believe they can develop them into an NFL QB. If someone like Jackson were to develop into even an above average passer, he would be an incredible weapon.

 

Then when they're put on an NFL field, they rely on their legs and don't learn to read the defense and go through their progressions. Which forces the coach into a difficult decision: accept his limitations in the passing game and rely on his legs, which is not a winning formula, or force him to stay in the pocket, which may develop him, but also takes away a big reason why you drafted him.


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Posted 06 January 2019 - 03:59 PM

I don't think Jackson and Allen are the same type of running QB.  Allen has a huge arm.  He was running because he had no OL or WR corp.  Jackson on the other hand can't throw a ball and judging by his interviews isn't the sharpest.  You don't have to be a genius to be successful at QB, but I don't think that he has the needed processing speed.


This. Allen certainly needs to work on his accuracy but he wasn't drafted to be a running threat. He was drafted for his arm. His gaudy rushing stats turned out to be an added bonus, and was more out of necessity than because that's his entire game.
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Posted 06 January 2019 - 04:11 PM

To quote a famous Admiral: It's a trap.

 

They show enough promise in college that coaches believe they can develop them into an NFL QB. If someone like Jackson were to develop into even an above average passer, he would be an incredible weapon.

 

Then when they're put on an NFL field, they rely on their legs and don't learn to read the defense and go through their progressions. Which forces the coach into a difficult decision: accept his limitations in the passing game and rely on his legs, which is not a winning formula, or force him to stay in the pocket, which may develop him, but also takes away a big reason why you drafted him.

 

Another quality post.

 

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Posted 14 January 2019 - 09:11 AM

Just watched the highlights of this game.

It’s a shame that the Ravens coaching staff gave up.

Down by 17 points to start the 4th quarter and yet no Flacco, who’s the much better passer.
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