Vegas: Your Game of Choice

[frank 2,144]

I think I've gotten one free meal. That's about it lol

Get and use a card.

[penultimatestraw 473]

Has anyone ever actually been comped on this board? I've never been and none of my friends and family ever have been. Most I've had happen I win enough money to pay for my hotel room while I'm there.

I don't want those fvckos tracking my every move, so there is no way in hell I'd get involved with m-life or other player program. One of my coworkers' sister is a high roller who has been comped rooms/food/etc. But she probably spends tens of thousands of dollars every time she goes to Vegas,

[Djgb13 2,338]

I don't want those fvckos tracking my every move, so there is no way in hell I'd get involved with m-life or other player program. One of my coworkers' sister is a high roller who has been comped rooms/food/etc. But she probably spends tens of thousands of dollars every time she goes to Vegas,

I'm kinda the same way. I wouldn't want them tracking what I'm doing or how much I'm spending, winning, and losing.

[joeshushu 51]

Black jack and second video poker when you want to veg and drink at the bar excessively, eat greasy food, fart, maybe pee your pants (usually do this late 2 or 3 in the morning no one around).

[Chronic Husker 85]

Vegas has turned into such a bean counter, horseshiot ripoff, I can barely justify going any more.

 

$35 resort tax per night? Fock that. Even if you find a deal on a room for $45, you're still paying $80 a night.

 

Even 15 years ago, you could get a prime rib dinner for $5 from a lot of places. Good luck finding that under $25 now.

 

Even the airlines have completely changed. Used to be able to find round trips under $200 from most places in the midwest. I was looking LAST FALL for March Madness deals. Already had those weeks marked up 3-4 times whether you use cash or miles.

 

As if the place isn't enough of a money pit with the gambling rakes, you now have to pay a premium on everything else, too.

 

Fock Vegas.

[Frozenbeernuts 1,652]

My wife likes the WOF machines too, and it seems like she ends up a winning a few hundred every trip.

Thats what happened the last 3 times we went. We wouldnt win a ton, but maybe be up $500ish. The last time we finally came away empty handed. There was actually a machine in the MGM called slots of fun. It seemed every time i played i would walk away up around $100. Once i would get up i would just play back down to 100 and then walk away. Sadly the game isnt there any more.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,577]

 

Good info. Can you explain the bolded? TIA.

 

basically, if you are playing basic strategy and ANYONE else is playing with you, you will lose, regardless of how well they play.

 

your optimal situation is 1v1 against the house, in a single deck or double deck table. It gives true odds.

 

for every person at the table the house odds increase by 1.5 % roughly, which is why you shouldn't play 2 hands either. Its not only mathematically decreasing your win %, its also mentally messing with your mind, because the human brain will automatically play 2 hands like this.

 

well I have 20 on 1 hand so the other hand doesnt matter as much, you play the entire time thinking as long as I win one I am doing ok. Thats bad strategy. You always play to win the game, you never play to push.

 

This is why you split 9's vs an 8, hit a soft 17 (always) but even against a 7, hit soft 18 vs 9-10-A, etc. People feel like 18 is a good hand, and while yes it does win frequently, you should never be satisfied with an 18, its considered a mathematical push.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,577]

I'm kinda the same way. I wouldn't want them tracking what I'm doing or how much I'm spending, winning, and losing.

 

fallacy, they don't track what you are winning or losing, winning or losing does NOT affect your tracking or your comp rates. The ONLY thing they care about is average bet and time played. The game itself handles the rest, and just by tracking your bets for 30 minutes they know how much you are likely to lose given enough time

[hoytdwow 202]

keno :sadbanana:

[patweisers44 697]

I play Pai Gow, Video Poker and Blackjack. Once in a while, craps. I will be doing all of the above this weekend, in Vegas.

[nzoner 936]

Has anyone ever actually been comped on this board? I've never been and none of my friends and family ever have been. Most I've had happen I win enough money to pay for my hotel room while I'm there.

Not to come off as I'm bragging because I am not a high roller,I may drop a few hundred on a visit but I play machines with a players card so my tier score is constantly climbing and I'm not counting on a pit boss etc. to enter my playing time.

 

I haven't paid for a room in over seven years at any of their properties including their magnificent New Orleans Harrahs or any Vegas property.

 

My favorite comp from them is my annual March Madness trip where my guest and I join hundreds of others in a VIP ballroom on the 3rd floor of the Flamingo with giant tv screens and all food and drinks included the first four days of the tournament.My room and resort fees are also comped so I pay plane fare,tips, and take gambling cash.

 

 

 

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[edjr 5,556]

Texas Hold 'em (against the dealer, not NLH) and Let it Ride and of course 1 - 2 No limit hold 'em (sit with no less than 500)

[nzoner 936]

Vegas has turned into such a bean counter, horseshiot ripoff, I can barely justify going any more.

 

$35 resort tax per night? Fock that. Even if you find a deal on a room for $45, you're still paying $80 a night.

 

Even 15 years ago, you could get a prime rib dinner for $5 from a lot of places. Good luck finding that under $25 now.

 

Even the airlines have completely changed. Used to be able to find round trips under $200 from most places in the midwest. I was looking LAST FALL for March Madness deals. Already had those weeks marked up 3-4 times whether you use cash or miles.

 

As if the place isn't enough of a money pit with the gambling rakes, you now have to pay a premium on everything else, too.

 

Fock Vegas.

We made our March Madness reservations end of January flying out of KC on Southwest and got $262 roundtrip.

[patweisers44 697]

Has anyone ever actually been comped on this board? I've never been and none of my friends and family ever have been. Most I've had happen I win enough money to pay for my hotel room while I'm there.

I haven't paid for a room in vegas in years. Also, its based on "theoretical loss" as RaiderHater pointed out above and besides rooms, comps can include just about anything, depending on level of play of course. I play enough to get a room, Free Play/Match Play (small amounts from $50 to 3-400 per trip) nice meals, and waived resort fees.

[the newb 23]

Has anyone ever actually been comped on this board? I've never been and none of my friends and family ever have been. Most I've had happen I win enough money to pay for my hotel room while I'm there.

Used to go to the Trop in AC twice a yr. Had a 2 night comp stay whenever we wanted and ate for free the whole weekend on site but not at the few high end restaurants there.

Edit: haven't been there in about 5 yrs

[TimmySmith 2,782]

Agreed. Some of my favorite memories are of me and several buddies at the same Roulette wheel going bananas.

 

ETA: I was actually up in DC about a month ago for the Skins - Packers game. We hit up Maryland Live that Friday night. It was fun.

Never been. When casinos came to MD I figured I would get to one occasionally. Because they have no immediate competition, I have heard they keep the bets rather high ($20 minimum BJ tables) and are not big on comps. Maybe they have changed this.

[Frozenbeernuts 1,652]

Not to come off as I'm bragging because I am not a high roller,I may drop a few hundred on a visit but I play machines with a players card so my tier score is constantly climbing and I'm not counting on a pit boss etc. to enter my playing time.

 

I haven't paid for a room in over seven years at any of their properties including their magnificent New Orleans Harrahs or any Vegas property.

 

My favorite comp from them is my annual March Madness trip where my guest and I join hundreds of others in a VIP ballroom on the 3rd floor of the Flamingo with giant tv screens and all food and drinks included the first four days of the tournament.My room and resort fees are also comped so I pay plane fare,tips, and take gambling cash.

 

 

 

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Have you ever taken some honies back to the room after this event?

[nzoner 936]

Have you ever taken some honies back to the room after this event?

No,we generally head straight to O'Sheas after the event each night.

[edjr 5,556]

I refuse to go to another casino until they lift the ban on black people

[Cruzer 1,992]

Golf.

[Kanil 519]

Mostly holdem or if I can find it, omaha. I have been known to get drunk and throw a bet down on a roulette wheel as I pass... Usually announcing that the next spin is going to be 8. If you announce it with enough conviction, you can get the whole table to throw down a bet on 8. I have yet to hit .

[Kanil 519]

Mostly holdem or if I can find it, omaha. I have been known to get drunk and throw a bet down on a roulette wheel as I pass... Usually announcing that the next spin is going to be 8. If you announce it with enough conviction, you can get the whole table to throw down a bet on 8. I have yet to hit .

Also, I used to get comped through my uncle who just spent crazy amounts of $$$ there. He's in jail now so no free rides for me anymore .

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

Poker usually. Hold em unless there is a much shorter line for a seat at an Omaha table.

 

Honestly though, if I were merely trying to win money, I play blackjack. That is about as easy a game as there is once you memorize the odds chart and learn how to count cards a little. But frankly it bores the sh!t out of me.

 

Here, baccarat is the big game I'm told. I have read that has the best odds in the house. Looks dreadfully boring though.

 

I like poker because of the mental psychological aspect to it. Playing cards is simple mathematics. No real challenge there. Playing people is much more interesting. That is why I hate video poker.

[Bert 1,091]

Has anyone ever actually been comped on this board? I've never been and none of my friends and family ever have been. Most I've had happen I win enough money to pay for my hotel room while I'm there.

No never

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

No never

I always get free dinner at the buffet. And I've been comped a room a few times. Usually when playing blackjack. My dad is a good card counter and taught my brother and me at an early age. When the three of us play blackjack, they want us to go away from the table.

 

Back in the day they had single deck blackjack. We used to rape that game.

[edjr 5,556]

I haven't paid for a room in vegas in years. Also, its based on "theoretical loss" as RaiderHater pointed out above and besides rooms, comps can include just about anything, depending on level of play of course. I play enough to get a room, Free Play/Match Play (small amounts from $50 to 3-400 per trip) nice meals, and waived resort fees.

I was going to bet my left nut that you'd been comped (lots)

[Frozenbeernuts 1,652]

Mostly holdem or if I can find it, omaha. I have been known to get drunk and throw a bet down on a roulette wheel as I pass... Usually announcing that the next spin is going to be 8. If you announce it with enough conviction, you can get the whole table to throw down a bet on 8. I have yet to hit .

So i have a few numbers i always play, every roll. I have played a fair share of roulette. One number i play is 29, my bday. I have never ever hit. And now i put more money on that number than the rest just because when it does hit i will be pissed if i dont make a nice buck on it. The number has hit a few times right after i left the table.

[nzoner 936]

So i have a few numbers i always play, every roll. I have played a fair share of roulette. One number i play is 29, my bday. I have never ever hit. And now i put more money on that number than the rest just because when it does hit i will be pissed if i dont make a nice buck on it. The number has hit a few times right after i left the table.

Mine is 26 and of course one early morning I thought what the hell and bought in for a hundred,with 26 not hitting and my friends wanting to go I took 17 $1 chips and put them on red,I sh!t you not 26 hit. The casino guy and my friends laughed their ass off and casino guy even called the pit boss over to share story with.

[Frozenbeernuts 1,652]

Mine is 26 and of course one early morning I thought what the hell and bought in for a hundred,with 26 not hitting and my friends wanting to go I took 17 $1 chips and put them on red,I sh!t you not 26 hit. The casino guy and my friends laughed their ass off and casino guy even called the pit boss over to share story with.

brutal. I hate when that shlt happens. Everyones gotta yuck it up to rub it in too.

[Bert 1,091]

I always get free dinner at the buffet. And I've been comped a room a few times. Usually when playing blackjack. My dad is a good card counter and taught my brother and me at an early age. When the three of us play blackjack, they want us to go away from the table.

 

Back in the day they had single deck blackjack. We used to rape that game.

It was a joke. I go 3 or 4 times a year and I haven't paid for a room in 10 years. I have also had golf, shows, cruises and meals comped.

[WhiteWonder 2,171]

 

basically, if you are playing basic strategy and ANYONE else is playing with you, you will lose, regardless of how well they play.

 

bogus. you might lose over time because odds are in the favor of the house but it doesn't really matter who else plays or how they play. if you're playing basic strategy at a table alone with the dealer you will also lose over time without counting cards.

 

 

 

for every person at the table the house odds increase by 1.5 % roughly, which is why you shouldn't play 2 hands either. Its not only mathematically decreasing your win %, its also mentally messing with your mind, because the human brain will automatically play 2 hands like this.

 

can you back up this claim? just the odds portion. I don't need anything else on the "mentally messing with your mind" portion

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,577]

 

 

basically, if you are playing basic strategy and ANYONE else is playing with you, you will lose, regardless of how well they play.

 

bogus. you might lose over time because odds are in the favor of the house but it doesn't really matter who else plays or how they play. if you're playing basic strategy at a table alone with the dealer you will also lose over time without counting cards.

 

 

 

for every person at the table the house odds increase by 1.5 % roughly, which is why you shouldn't play 2 hands either. Its not only mathematically decreasing your win %, its also mentally messing with your mind, because the human brain will automatically play 2 hands like this.

 

can you back up this claim? just the odds portion. I don't need anything else on the "mentally messing with your mind" portion

 

 

our take rates since we started tracking more in depth about a yr and a half ago, show the numbers based on players at table. A full table averages over the last 18 months 9% higher

 

also when we track players who play 1 vs 2 hands our take rate is 1.4% more

 

the interesting thing is that it goes 1.4%, 2.2% with (3), 4.1% (4)

 

it may be sample size though, and is skewed more because we only use 6 deck and continuous shufflers, but I feel 18 months of data is quite significant (we are the 5th biggest casino in the US based on volume) and have 90 blackjack games

[edjr 5,556]

Thrones

[WhiteWonder 2,171]

 

our take rates since we started tracking more in depth about a yr and a half ago, show the numbers based on players at table. A full table averages over the last 18 months 9% higher

 

also when we track players who play 1 vs 2 hands our take rate is 1.4% more

 

this is from?

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,577]

 

this is from?

 

its from my work, I added a bit more detail

[frank 2,144]

 

our take rates since we started tracking more in depth about a yr and a half ago, show the numbers based on players at table. A full table averages over the last 18 months 9% higher

 

also when we track players who play 1 vs 2 hands our take rate is 1.4% more

 

the interesting thing is that it goes 1.4%, 2.2% with (3), 4.1% (4)

 

it may be sample size though, and is skewed more because we only use 6 deck and continuous shufflers, but I feel 18 months of data is quite significant (we are the 5th biggest casino in the US based on volume) and have 90 blackjack games

All of this is correlational. It could be, for example, that poor players are more likely to play 2 hands. So, being a poor player, rather than 2 hands making a difference, could explain the results.

[WhiteWonder 2,171]

 

our take rates since we started tracking more in depth about a yr and a half ago, show the numbers based on players at table. A full table averages over the last 18 months 9% higher

 

also when we track players who play 1 vs 2 hands our take rate is 1.4% more

 

the interesting thing is that it goes 1.4%, 2.2% with (3), 4.1% (4)

 

it may be sample size though, and is skewed more because we only use 6 deck and continuous shufflers, but I feel 18 months of data is quite significant (we are the 5th biggest casino in the US based on volume) and have 90 blackjack games

 

yeah im sorry but im not buying it. with all the info out there produced by serious blackjack players in regards to odds, basic strat, card counting etc... there would be something out there on a full table giving the casino a 9-10% advantage . That would be insane and you would have experienced players and former industry people out there preaching to everyone to never play at a full table unless the other people at the table are all your friends and you are all counting cards together.

 

you mentioned continuous shufflers, so right there you're going to have skewed data because better players and counters avoid these tables completely.

 

 

 

also a lot of casino workers don't even know how to play the game themselves. they think you should always assume the dealers hole card (and next cards out) are 10 value cards but this is a proven myth.

 

your hand also is not dictated by other players at your table. So a terrible player isn't going to keep you from winning money in the long term. said player might take a stupid hit and "take the dealers bust card" but once you play long enough, it's not going to matter. That bad player could just as easily take the card the dealer needs to make their winning hand.

[WhiteWonder 2,171]

All of this is correlational. It could be, for example, that poor players are more likely to play 2 hands. So, being a poor player, rather than 2 hands making a difference, could explain the results.

 

agreed. ive seen a lot of bad players playing 2 hands. probably because they see others doing it and they want more action on the table.

 

a good player can play two hands and use basic strategy or basic strategy + card counting and do just as well as playing 1 hand. there is no statistical evidence to support the notion that playing 2 hands "messes with your mind" and causes you to play for a push.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,577]

 

agreed. ive seen a lot of bad players playing 2 hands. probably because they see others doing it and they want more action on the table.

 

a good player can play two hands and use basic strategy or basic strategy + card counting and do just as well as playing 1 hand. there is no statistical evidence to support the notion that playing 2 hands "messes with your mind" and causes you to play for a push.

 

yes good players, but that is roughly 5% give or take, but the majority of players playing 2 hands, are happy winning 1 and play to win 1

[TimmySmith 2,782]

Mine is 26 and of course one early morning I thought what the hell and bought in for a hundred,with 26 not hitting and my friends wanting to go I took 17 $1 chips and put them on red,I sh!t you not 26 hit. The casino guy and my friends laughed their ass off and casino guy even called the pit boss over to share story with.

I have an opposite story. A buddy of mine as he was leaving the casino put all his remaining chips on a number. It hit and the dealer pushes over 5K. He is like ???. Didn't realize he had $100 chip among them and never would have played it if he had known.