Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted January 21, 2019 I only saw it from the video board. But from there, it was hard to tell when the ball touched the ground that it absolutely didn't touch his fingers at the same time. Ed is dead on. The 3 angles showed that it did not hit him and it wasn't that close. Surprising, but the ball did not touch him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,556 Posted January 21, 2019 I only saw it from the video board. But from there, it was hard to tell when the ball touched the ground that it absolutely didn't touch his fingers at the same time. 3 great angles. it was the right call. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,904 Posted January 21, 2019 I only saw it from the video board. But from there, it was hard to tell when the ball touched the ground that it absolutely didn't touch his fingers at the same time. That's the only part I questioned when watching the replays. Even after piecing all the videos together, I couldn't tell with 100% certainty that it didn't touch his fingertip(s). Either way, the game shouldn't be decided by one or two calls anyway. If you lose because of 1 or 2 bad calls, you didn't execute enough during the game. Adding more replays just takes more away from the game in my opinion. I'd do away with all replays. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,992 Posted January 21, 2019 That's the only part I questioned when watching the replays. Even after piecing all the videos together, I couldn't tell with 100% certainty that it didn't touch his fingertip(s). Either way, the game shouldn't be decided by one or two calls anyway. If you lose because of 1 or 2 bad calls, you didn't execute enough during the game. Adding more replays just takes more away from the game in my opinion. I'd do away with all replays. I was kind of shocked - the mighty NFL, a multi-BILLION dollar organization, and entity that prints its own money...........didn't have a better camera picture for that play. They had plenty of angles, but the images were grainy, not clear at all... You'd think for a Championship game we'd have better views. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 2,710 Posted January 21, 2019 Roughing the passer call kind of ruined it, may not have mattered but, it's really unfortunate that call was made. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted January 21, 2019 I was kind of shocked - the mighty NFL, a multi-BILLION dollar organization, and entity that prints its own money...........didn't have a better camera picture for that play. They had plenty of angles, but the images were grainy, not clear at all... You'd think for a Championship game we'd have better views. there was one video clip that clearly showed it not touching his hands or fingers..in that same clip it almost looked like it brushed off of his bicep but the other angles clearly ruled that out. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,191 Posted January 21, 2019 Had you bet on the super bowl just before the season started, the favorite to win was the Patriots at +500. Rams were tied for 5th best odds at +1100. I bet on the Cardinals winning the NFC championship in August while in Vegas, +5000. I got smartz$#@! To be fair, I also homer bet on ASU winning the PAC-12 championship game, that was fun as it was in play until the end of the season. $20 each bet, no big deal. ETA: +7000 on ASU. Nobody had confidence in Edwards as coach to start the season, but now we are all "firm for Herm"$#@! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,296 Posted January 21, 2019 Challenge penalties? In the CFL you can challenge pass interference calls... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,015 Posted January 21, 2019 I'm still surprised(and not at the same time) that when KC had 11 seconds left they didn't take one more shot at the end zone. Belichick even gave them a second chance to think about it when he called TO to ice the kicker. Chance to win and avoid OT vs chance of sack/not getting FG off...I'll take the chance to win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,541 Posted January 21, 2019 The Rams opened as a one-point favorite over the Patriots, but we have seen quick line movement out of the gate. It has quickly swung to New England, going as high as Patriots -2 Sunday evening. The point total was installed at 57.5, but quickly climbed to 58.5 The former number matched the record point total set before Super Bowl 51 between the Patriots and Falcons, and this new number sets a new record for the time being. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/2019/1/20/18189687/super-bowl-53-odds-afc-vs-nfc-patriots-chiefs-saints-rams-point-total In what world do you open that game with Rams favored? on what planet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,556 Posted January 21, 2019 Roughing the passer call kind of ruined it, may not have mattered but, it's really unfortunate that call was made. Yup. Terrible call but did graze the facemask and his head moved. Ref was directly behind Brady. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,541 Posted January 21, 2019 rams favored was the dumbest call vegas has ever made beat me to it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,556 Posted January 21, 2019 In what world do you open that game with Rams favored? on what planet? they aren't always right Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bier Meister 1,513 Posted January 21, 2019 Yup. Terrible call but did graze the facemask and his head moved. Ref was directly behind Brady. as a neutral fan, i just want consistency. there was a virtually identical non-call on mahomes earlier. i believe brady got his drive extended on a failed 3rd down conversion attempt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,545 Posted January 21, 2019 Was the phantom RTP call on Brady bullshiit? Yes, absolutely...........but: * When you give up 3rd and 10, THREE TIMES on the final drive, twice on the same damn play - you deserve to focking lose. * When your dumbass lines up off sides, you deserve to lose. * When you see 75 RB dump offs, and can't stop it - you deserve to lose. * The Chefs weren't facing Zeke, they weren't facing Barkley, when you can't stop a bunch of regular Joe's from running down your throat - you deserve to lose. * Belichick was genius last night, as good as he's ever been. To make Hill disappear, to run the ball with no-name John Doe's and to get to another SB - GOAT. * Brady was phenomenal as well. It's a joy to watch a qb with total control and understanding of what a defense is doing. Some of his throws were off the chain - GOAT. * How good was Romo? How in da fuq is he not a HC or OC somewhere? Jerry should can Red and hire #9 today. agree with most of this except the no name RBs part. Sony was a first rounder and White arguably could have been the MVP of SB LI. Course NE doesn't feature one RB week after week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,992 Posted January 21, 2019 agree with most of this except the no name RBs part. Sony was a first rounder and White arguably could have been the MVP of SB LI. Course NE doesn't feature one RB week after week. White was a 1st rounder agreed......but the 31st pick, not a blue chip stud... And MVP candidate or not, White was still a 4th round pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,890 Posted January 21, 2019 not even close. same day best championship games ever, all time. Colts 38, Pats 34 - best ever Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TD Ryan2 314 Posted January 21, 2019 Belichick won that game in the 1st half. Brady won that game in the 2nd half/OT. It almost doesn't matter who you put around them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,556 Posted January 21, 2019 Colts 38, Pats 34 - best ever gameS plural = more than 1 HTH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,890 Posted January 21, 2019 gameS plural = more than 1 HTH Bears 39, Saints 14 Colts 38, Pats 34 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted January 21, 2019 2001, 2002 and 2003 NFC championship games were pretty awesome Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,890 Posted January 21, 2019 Super Bowl 52 was the best ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,545 Posted January 21, 2019 White was a 1st rounder agreed......but the 31st pick, not a blue chip stud... And MVP candidate or not, White was still a 4th round pick.NE taking a RB in the first is noteworthy regardless and White... During Super Bowl LI against the Atlanta Falcons, White had 139 total yards (29 rushing, 110 receiving). He joined Roger Craig as the only running back with 100+ receiving yards in a Super Bowl and broke Denver Broncos wide receiver Demaryius Thomas's previous record for most receptions in a Super Bowl, which came in a 43-8 loss to the Seattle Seahawks in Super Bowl XLVIII, with 14. He scored 3 touchdowns and a 2-point conversion, setting a record for points in a Super Bowl, with 20. All of those points came after the Patriots trailed 283 midway through the third quarter. Danny Amendola's 2-point conversion following White's second touchdown tied the game, sending the Super Bowl to overtime for the first time ever. During overtime, White delivered the finishing blow by rushing two yards into the end zone for the game-winning touchdown Sorry not no names Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nzoner 936 Posted January 21, 2019 Roughing the passer call kind of ruined it, may not have mattered but, it's really unfortunate that call was made. Yup. Terrible call but did graze the facemask and his head moved. Ref was directly behind Brady. Watch this video clip starting at 1:37,Mahomes had basically the same hit on him early in the game even getting knocked to the ground and no call.Just be consistent! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted January 21, 2019 Belichick won that game in the 1st half. Brady won that game in the 2nd half/OT. It almost doesn't matter who you put around them. Having a solid ball carrier that can handle 29 carries in that game was the key to the victory. This type of game was what N.E. had envisioned when they drafted Michel in the first round. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,015 Posted January 21, 2019 T&P's to Tom Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted January 21, 2019 Meh it was 2nd and 7 And should have been pass interference anyway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,890 Posted January 21, 2019 Bad roughing call. Bad reversal of the punt / fumble too. Chiefs still should have won if not for a horrible neutral zone infraction and their inability to stop NE on so many 3rd and longs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nzoner 936 Posted January 21, 2019 This is what the game has become,inconsistency after inconsistency 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 750 Posted January 21, 2019 This is what the game has become,inconsistency after inconsistency that is sad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted January 21, 2019 Bad reversal of the punt / fumble too. Chiefs still should have won if not for a horrible neutral zone infractionbad eyes, brain or both ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,122 Posted January 21, 2019 This is what the game has become,inconsistency after inconsistency Unwatchable Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,556 Posted January 21, 2019 Bad reversal of the punt / fumble too. do you enjoy being wrong? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 905 Posted January 21, 2019 Meh it was 2nd and 7 And should have been pass interference anyway definite PI there Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,015 Posted January 21, 2019 do you enjoy being wrong? I do...when the Mistress is punishing me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,992 Posted January 21, 2019 NE taking a RB in the first is noteworthy regardless and White... During Super Bowl LI against the Atlanta Falcons, White had 139 total yards (29 rushing, 110 receiving). He joined Roger Craig as the only running back with 100+ receiving yards in a Super Bowl and broke Denver Broncos wide receiver Demaryius Thomas's previous record for most receptions in a Super Bowl, which came in a 43-8 loss to the Seattle Seahawks in Super Bowl XLVIII, with 14. He scored 3 touchdowns and a 2-point conversion, setting a record for points in a Super Bowl, with 20. All of those points came after the Patriots trailed 283 midway through the third quarter. Danny Amendola's 2-point conversion following White's second touchdown tied the game, sending the Super Bowl to overtime for the first time ever. During overtime, White delivered the finishing blow by rushing two yards into the end zone for the game-winning touchdown When a 4th rounder can have a SB game like that - you prove my point. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,941 Posted January 21, 2019 When a 4th rounder can have a SB game like that - you prove my point. Thanks. Damien Williams and CJ Blunberson also say hello. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,545 Posted January 21, 2019 When a 4th rounder can have a SB game like that - you prove my point. Thanks. the no name RB yesterday played for KC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,556 Posted January 21, 2019 I do...when the Mistress is punishing me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,890 Posted January 21, 2019 bad eyes, brain or both ? Ball hit his right thumb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites