Artista 460 Posted April 13, 2016 Tomorrow night 7:30 pm PT on ESPN2 is the final game he will play vs the Jazz. Not a huge fan of his but will miss his talent in the NBA------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------before he started to uh, slip. http://nba.nbcsports.com/2016/04/11/watch-kendrick-lamar-releases-kobe-bryant-tribute-video/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 588 Posted April 13, 2016 It's about two years too late Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,631 Posted April 13, 2016 It's about two years too late So, you have some sort of Kobe beef? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
southcarolina 166 Posted April 13, 2016 Good Riddance. The only reason im sorry he is leaving is that now the Lakers can actually start rebuilding. I hope it takes them 30 years. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Artista 460 Posted April 13, 2016 Well now... how about a geek tribute vid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 588 Posted April 13, 2016 A little coincidence, he has a bit of a Paris Hilton eye too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,797 Posted April 13, 2016 Will the girl he raped be there too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dain11279 927 Posted April 13, 2016 Will the girl he raped be there too? Allegedly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,009 Posted April 13, 2016 So, you have some sort of Kobe beef? he's killing it with that stuff...much better than Trump Steaks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 2,710 Posted April 13, 2016 All time great, all time piece of sh!t. Good riddance. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,877 Posted April 13, 2016 I hope the Lakers pick conveys to the Sixers this year - I'm afraid LA will be better next season without Kobe on the court. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Artista 460 Posted April 13, 2016 Kobe made this vid for you haters. http://nba.nbcsports.com/2016/04/13/kobe-bryant-conducts-perfect-hater-farewell-video/ 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 588 Posted April 13, 2016 Kobe made this vid for you haters. http://nba.nbcsports.com/2016/04/13/kobe-bryant-conducts-perfect-hater-farewell-video/ I remember when Doctor J made a video highlighting his career and his self made nickname.. Wait, no he didn't 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bier Meister 1,512 Posted April 13, 2016 can't stand him. I am admittedly biased on this one..... was working in vail (very close to cordillera) when he wanted kobe play time. i knew people who knew the lady. prior to the charges i disliked the lakers, but had a decent amount of respect for his game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Artista 460 Posted April 13, 2016 I'll be flipping between channels tonight. Not common to have 2 milestone games playing at the same time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 588 Posted April 13, 2016 I'll be flipping between channels tonight. Not common to have 2 milestone games playing at the same time. You'll throw off the Nielsen ratings, it'll show at least 30 people watching Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,296 Posted April 13, 2016 One of the greatest of all time... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 588 Posted April 13, 2016 One of the greatest of all time... How high would you put him, top 20? No way top ten Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,992 Posted April 13, 2016 One of the all time greatest sports, selfish, a$$holes - could also play a little bit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,296 Posted April 13, 2016 How high would you put him, top 20? No way top ten Probably the #12-#15 range... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,797 Posted April 13, 2016 How high would you put him, top 20? No way top ten If hes not top 10 which i dont think he is..hes close. Hard not to put a guy who is number 1 in almost every category for THAT franchise up there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted April 13, 2016 Better late than never, now the Lakers have a shot at rebuilding. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,877 Posted April 13, 2016 How high would you put him, top 20? No way top ten Dude come on. Won 5 NBA championships 2x finals MVP 1 NBA MVP 15-time All Star Led the league in scoring 2x 3rd in all time scoring 3rd in postseason scoring 9x NBA all defensive team Averaged 25 PPG in his TWENTY YEAR career spanning 3 decades I think the guy is a massive doosh but he is easily Top 10 alltime and you can make a case for Top 5. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 588 Posted April 13, 2016 If hes not top 10 which i dont think he is..hes close. Hard not to put a guy who is number 1 in almost every category for THAT franchise up there. I think it's more due to his years in the league. When I've watched him in the past, he's pretty similar to Dominique Wilkins, except he had a good supporting cast and titles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 588 Posted April 13, 2016 Dude come on. Won 5 NBA championships 2x finals MVP 1 NBA MVP 15-time All Star Led the league in scoring 2x 3rd in all time scoring 3rd in postseason scoring 9x NBA all defensive team Averaged 25 PPG in his TWENTY YEAR career spanning 3 decades I think the guy is a massive doosh but he is easily Top 10 alltime and you can make a case for Top 5. Michael Magic Bird Wilt Oscar Robinson Kareem Shaq Lebron David Robinson Tim Duncan Hakeem Jerry west Here's who is put above kobe, I think that's a fair list Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,992 Posted April 13, 2016 Michael Magic Bird Wilt Oscar Robinson Kareem Shaq Lebron David Robinson Tim Duncan Hakeem Jerry west Here's who is put above kobe, I think that's a fair list There is no way Jerry West and D. Robinson, as great as they were - rank higher than Kobe. That's silly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,877 Posted April 13, 2016 Michael Magic Bird Wilt Oscar Robinson Kareem Shaq Lebron David Robinson Tim Duncan Hakeem Jerry west Here's who is put above kobe, I think that's a fair list You realize most everybody on that list had fewer seasons, championships and All-Star appearances, and had lower stats than Kobe right? For example as much as everybody reveres Magic he won the same # of championships with a similarly talented supporting cast, played 3 fewer seasons and averaged 6 PPG less. About the only metric where he's better than Kobe is in assists (naturally), but Kobe was in his prime a better defender. Magic does win on 80s nostalgia though. I hate Kobe, but his career stacks up with or exceeds almost everyone on your list. I'd have to go player by player but off the top of my head only Wilt, Tim Duncan and LeBron (projecting here) really objectively exceed him in stats, accolades (MVP, All Star, All Defense etc.) and longevity. The man is a scumbag but he's Top 10 and it's a no brainer. He's probably closer to 5 than 10. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,877 Posted April 13, 2016 There is no way Jerry West and D. Robinson, as great as they were - rank higher than Kobe. That's silly. It's also silly to put Shaq above Kobe when he only ever won a championship with Kobe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 588 Posted April 13, 2016 There is no way Jerry West and D. Robinson, as great as they were - rank higher than Kobe. That's silly. You mean the guy who is the logo of the league isn't as good as Kobe? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,947 Posted April 13, 2016 can't stand him. I am admittedly biased on this one..... was working in vail (very close to cordillera) when he wanted kobe play time. i knew people who knew the lady. prior to the charges i disliked the lakers, but had a decent amount of respect for his game. Doesn't pretty much everyone in Vail, especially the males, "know" the lady? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,797 Posted April 13, 2016 And no way is he not in over LBJ. No chance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted April 13, 2016 You mean the guy who is the logo of the league isn't as good as Kobe? Nope. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 588 Posted April 13, 2016 It's also silly to put Shaq above Kobe when he only ever won a championship with Kobe. You forget the heat years? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,947 Posted April 13, 2016 Michael Magic Bird Wilt Oscar Robinson Kareem Shaq Lebron David Robinson Tim Duncan Hakeem Jerry west Here's who is put above kobe, I think that's a fair list It's hard to compare across positions, but I've made a few changes to your list. Only eliminating Lebron due to longevity. If he quit today he wouldn't be considered better than Kobe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,947 Posted April 13, 2016 You forget the heat years? Shaq was a shell that year. Wade put that team on it's back to get that championship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,992 Posted April 13, 2016 You mean the guy who is the logo of the league isn't as good as Kobe? Correct. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,877 Posted April 13, 2016 You forget the heat years? Crap you're right, my bad. My point stands though: I got a list of 12 players, most of whom don't beat Kobe according to any metric. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 588 Posted April 13, 2016 Crap you're right, my bad. My point stands though: I got a list of 12 players, most of whom don't beat Kobe according to any metric. I'm curious as to which ones, hes the Craig biggio of basketball, pretty good for a long time to compile stats, but if I was picking a team of all players in their prime, he'd be pretty far down there Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted April 13, 2016 He is an easy top 10 and arguable top 5-7. If making a 10 person nba team of all timers. Jordan is the starting SG and Kobe is the backup. He is on the team tho. When making these lists I try to look at all the factors, not just raw stats. Legacy, clutch, impact, eye test, all those things factor in. Magic averaging less ppg is a negligible argument when comparing the two for example. But Kobe has a ton of those intangible factors going for him along with his great stats. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,877 Posted April 13, 2016 I'm curious as to which ones, hes the Craig biggio of basketball, pretty good for a long time to compile stats, but if I was picking a team of all players in their prime, he'd be pretty far down there Kobe was a top 3-5 active player in the league for about a decade. You seriously undersell him by saying he was "pretty good" for a long time. I'm not sure Craig Biggio was arguably the best player in baseball at any point. Of the list above, only Michael, Wilt, Duncan, Kareem and maybe Lebron were clearly better than Kobe and that's projecting Bron's remaining years. Guys who are clearly not on Kobe's level: David Robinson, Oscar Robertson, Jerry West. On his level: Magic, Bird, Hakeem, Shaq. You could make a case for Kobe being better than any of them but the resumes are roughly similar. He's at worst 9 on my list. I'd probably put him ahead of Magic and Shaq up in the 6/7 range. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
