What if it's found that Trump did help the Russians

[Casual Observer 597]

Not only would a company not fake or alter metadata and data - because if caught they would be done as a corporation - but they also exposed themselves to not only independent examination by the FBI's analysts, but also the two experts Conaway mentions, and whoever winds up in court as a result hires. Conaway specifically says they had two experts look at it. The way metadata works is if it's altered it can be determined it was altered. It would be an incredibly stupid and nearly impossible thing to try in ordinary circumstances.

It was reported that the DNC destroyed the server. If that's true then what was Conaway examining to come to this conclusion?

[SaintsInDome2006 128]

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Sorry.....NSAD Rogers refused to endorse Joint Analysis Report. That should floor you Saints but it won't.

 

Keep singing "Don't stop believing"

 

Dude if there was a scintilla of validity to this do you honestly think Devin Nunes wouldn't put it A1 in the majority report and run around waving it over his head like he had just discovered the secrets of the universe?

[Sho Nuff 719]

It was reported that the DNC destroyed the server. If that's true then what was Conaway examining to come to this conclusion?

And i asked you for a link to that.

Where was it reported.

[SaintsInDome2006 128]

It was reported that the DNC destroyed the server. If that's true then what was Conaway examining to come to this conclusion?

 

The DNC was using the servers when the FBI was there. The story is the DNC refused to let the FBI do a data map of their servers. If you guys want to accuse the DNC of something accuse them of having paranoia and hatred of the FBI for having just torn Hillary a new one in the middle of her campaign. Yes IMO the DNC should have given them access but as far as I know they didn't smash their servers before the FBI got there. DWS is an idiot who definitely hurt her party a myriad of ways.

[SaintsInDome2006 128]

And i asked you for a link to that.

Where was it reported.

 

Yep where is this.

[iam90sbaby 2,121]

Righties should let this thread die and keep the other thread bumped.

[Reality 2,710]

Righties should let this thread die and keep the other thread bumped.

 

True, other than a few desperate holdouts, everybody has pretty much moved on from the absurdness of the thread title.

[iam90sbaby 2,121]

 

True, other than a few desperate holdouts, everybody has pretty much moved on from the absurdness of the thread title.

 

Just my SEO mind speaking.

[Casual Observer 597]

 

Yep where is this.

I don't fetch links for you guys, but Saints you just recounted the story, then asked for a link? Where did you hear it?

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

 

Dude if there was a scintilla of validity to this do you honestly think Devin Nunes wouldn't put it A1 in the majority report and run around waving it over his head like he had just discovered the secrets of the universe?

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Where is the NSA on that report? It was FBI, DNI and DHS. NSA was not on board.

 

Again, you want to believe what you want to believe but the evidence points in the opposite direction. You can keep saying "yeah but the FBI has great investigators" or "why would a company risk that" and it won't alter the facts.

 

There's clear evidence the Obama DOJ/FBI colluded with HRC/DNC to rig the election. It had been going on prior to Trump nomination and that's why it was worth it. Crimes were already committed and too much was already at stake so they doubled down.

 

Also, what is Crowdstrike? Look into where they're based out of and who is part of it.

[SaintsInDome2006 128]

I don't fetch links for you guys, but Saints you just recounted the story, then asked for a link? Where did you hear it?

 

Well you should because it's a good way to learn things and fact check your own posts. Don't do it for us, do it for yourself. It's almost as though you comment on stuff without reading anything on it in advance.

 

This has been reported since July 2016.

 

This is from earlier, June 2016.

 

This is from June 2017.

 

You can rip DWS this way, that way, every way til next year about how she handled things and I will just agree with you but there is no report anywhere that I recall that the DNC destroyed its servers.

[SaintsInDome2006 128]

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Where is the NSA on that report? It was FBI, DNI and DHS. NSA was not on board.

 

Again, you want to believe what you want to believe but the evidence points in the opposite direction. You can keep saying "yeah but the FBI has great investigators" or "why would a company risk that" and it won't alter the facts.

 

There's clear evidence the Obama DOJ/FBI colluded with HRC/DNC to rig the election. It had been going on prior to Trump nomination and that's why it was worth it. Crimes were already committed and too much was already at stake so they doubled down.

 

Also, what is Crowdstrike? Look into where they're based out of and who is part of it.

 

And what about the point I made about Nunes?

[Sho Nuff 719]

Righties should let this thread die and keep the other thread bumped.

They can't...too busy denying facts and getting bent out of shape with anyone who disagrees with them.

[Sho Nuff 719]

I don't fetch links for you guys, but Saints you just recounted the story, then asked for a link? Where did you hear it?

 

You made the claim that they did this(I believe you did yesterday and I asked where you got that from and you ignored it)...pretty fair of anyone to ask you to back it up.

[Casual Observer 597]

 

Well you should because it's a good way to learn things and fact check your own posts. Don't do it for us, do it for yourself. It's almost as though you comment on stuff without reading anything on it in advance.

 

This has been reported since July 2016.

 

This is from earlier, June 2016.

 

This is from June 2017.

 

You can rip DWS this way, that way, every way til next year about how she handled things and I will just agree with you but there is no report anywhere that I recall that the DNC destroyed its servers.

These articles actually bolster the claim that the DNC didn't allow the gov't. to examine the equipment. Here's an article about Donna Brazile talking about destroying the equipment, after supposedly providing replicated copies, whatever that means. https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/brazile-hacking-dnc-replicated-server-fbi-destroyed-machines/

 

James Comey, whether he is to be believed or not, testified that the DNC did not allow the FBI access to the actual server.

[SaintsInDome2006 128]

These articles actually bolster the claim that the DNC didn't allow the gov't. to examine the equipment. Here's an article about Donna Brazile talking about destroying the equipment, after supposedly providing replicated copies, whatever that means. https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/brazile-hacking-dnc-replicated-server-fbi-destroyed-machines/

 

James Comey, whether he is to be believed or not, testified that the DNC did not allow the FBI access to the actual server.

Dude no kidding. That's my point. They didn't allow them to inspect them, but they didn't destroy them.

[Sho Nuff 719]

These articles actually bolster the claim that the DNC didn't allow the gov't. to examine the equipment. Here's an article about Donna Brazile talking about destroying the equipment, after supposedly providing replicated copies, whatever that means. https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/brazile-hacking-dnc-replicated-server-fbi-destroyed-machines/

 

James Comey, whether he is to be believed or not, testified that the DNC did not allow the FBI access to the actual server.

Data copies are pretty common.

Worked on several forensic audits where we went in...pulled hard drives...first thing we did was make backups of them prior to any sort of testing.

Pretty standard.

 

Also that link she states they turned over to the FBI what they wanted including the copies...and it isn't clear that she said they destroyed the servers or the individual equipment (laptops, phones) things that may have been vulnerable or worried about having trojan horses to fock with them later. Don't think that is all too uncommon after a breach either to replaces peripherals like that.

 

The DNC hired CrowdStrike. “The person we hired was the former No. 3 at the FBI, and they worked it out. They got a list from the FBI of things the FBI wanted, and in that list of items that the FBI requested they asked for a replica or an exact copy of everything we had from our server, knowing that if we got rid of our server we actually would get rid of our entire database, our brain would gone and then essentially we would have nothing,” she added.

Brazile said the total duplication and remediation process after the hacking cost the DNC “millions” of dollars.

“We made a replica of everything and turned it all over to [the FBI]. We also let them see all of the evidence from all of the individual computers, from everything else. So we, trust me, it cost us quite a penny to make replicas and then we destroyed the machines and then bought the staff people new laptops,” she said. “If you can imagine this, right before the convention, these staffers had lost all of their data, all of their materials – everything was gone. Everything was wiped clean, but we made a replica.”

 

[SaintsInDome2006 128]

Data copies are pretty common.

Worked on several forensic audits where we went in...pulled hard drives...first thing we did was make backups of them prior to any sort of testing.

Pretty standard.

 

Also that link she states they turned over to the FBI what they wanted including the copies...and it isn't clear that she said they destroyed the servers or the individual equipment (laptops, phones) things that may have been vulnerable or worried about having trojan horses to fock with them later. Don't think that is all too uncommon after a breach either to replaces peripherals like that.

 

She didn't say servers, she said machines, and after they had dealt with the FBI.

[Hardcore troubadour 12,596]

Seth Rich's family has sued Fox.

https://amp.cnn.com/money/2018/03/14/media/seth-rich-lawsuit-fox-news/index.html?__twitter_impression=true

Poor people. Being misled by those that are supposed to look out for us. I feel for them and wish them the peace they deserve. Some s-bag lawyer behind this, as usual.

[SaintsInDome2006 128]

That article also says that the Crowdstrike had an ex-FBI exec working for them, he coordinated with the FBI, and Crowdstrike performed the exam for the FBI following their wishlist. LOL the analysis was actually far better than I had thought.

[Casual Observer 597]

Data copies are pretty common.

Worked on several forensic audits where we went in...pulled hard drives...first thing we did was make backups of them prior to any sort of testing.

Pretty standard.

 

Also that link she states they turned over to the FBI what they wanted including the copies...and it isn't clear that she said they destroyed the servers or the individual equipment (laptops, phones) things that may have been vulnerable or worried about having trojan horses to fock with them later. Don't think that is all too uncommon after a breach either to replaces peripherals like that.

 

If only you could go back to some type of gainful employment.

[SaintsInDome2006 128]

Poor people. Being misled by those that are supposed to look out for us. I feel for them and wish them the peace they deserve. Some s-bag lawyer behind this, as usual.

Did the same thing happen to Devin Nunes? Where's his report on Seth Rich? No testimony from Assange, Murray, Binney.... is Nunes in on it too???

[Casual Observer 597]

She didn't say servers, she said machines, and after they had dealt with the FBI.

"why would we hold on to servers that were filled with malware and spyware?"

 

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/11/08/tucker_carlson_vs_donna_brazile_on_dnc_servers_why_didnt_dnc_turn_everything_over_to_fbi.html

 

So where are the servers now? A landfill?

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

Data copies are pretty common.

Worked on several forensic audits where we went in...pulled hard drives...first thing we did was make backups of them prior to any sort of testing.

Pretty standard.

 

Also that link she states they turned over to the FBI what they wanted including the copies...and it isn't clear that she said they destroyed the servers or the individual equipment (laptops, phones) things that may have been vulnerable or worried about having trojan horses to fock with them later. Don't think that is all too uncommon after a breach either to replaces peripherals like that.

 

No reason not to trust Crowdstrike since they have the former number 3 at the FBI. Oh wait.....the number one and two as well as Strzok, Page, Priestep, Baker of the current FBI at the time Crowdstrike was hired weren't up to anything.

 

JFC Saints and Sho....listen to your own excuses.

 

Focking clown show continues.

[Hardcore troubadour 12,596]

Did the same thing happen to Devin Nunes? Where's his report on Seth Rich? No testimony from Assange, Murray, Binney.... is Nunes in on it too???

So you think Nunes can interfere in an on going murder investigation? Under what jurisdiction?

[Sho Nuff 719]

If only you could go back to some type of gainful employment.

 

Nice ad hom.

I have the only employment I need right now.

Care to address the points actually made?

Doubtful...you posted a link that really didn't make the claim you were going for and only made the DNC look better...not worse.

[Sho Nuff 719]

"why would we hold on to servers that were filled with malware and spyware?"

 

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/11/08/tucker_carlson_vs_donna_brazile_on_dnc_servers_why_didnt_dnc_turn_everything_over_to_fbi.html

 

So where are the servers now? A landfill?

 

You claimed they were destroyed...any actual proof?

Your link is nothing more than the usual Tucker trying to yell over his guests. It isn't helping your cause at all.

[Casual Observer 597]

 

Nice ad hom.

I have the only employment I need right now.

Care to address the points actually made?

Doubtful...you posted a link that really didn't make the claim you were going for and only made the DNC look better...not worse.

You didn't make any points, other than assume facts of which you don't really know are true.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

 

You claimed they were destroyed...any actual proof?

Your link is nothing more than the usual Tucker trying to yell over his guests. It isn't helping your cause at all.

Prove someone actually inspected it. Other than a report from a DNC Contractor what evidence is there?

[Casual Observer 597]

 

You claimed they were destroyed...any actual proof?

Your link is nothing more than the usual Tucker trying to yell over his guests. It isn't helping your cause at all.

I didn't claim they were destroyed; I claimed it was reported they were destroyed. There is a transcript of the conversation that contains the lady's own words. If the DNC didn't hold on to the servers, where are they?

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

I didn't claim they were destroyed; I claimed it was reported they were destroyed. There is a transcript of the conversation that contains the lady's own words. If the DNC didn't hold on to the servers, where are they?

Hillary dusted them off....with like a rag.

[Sho Nuff 719]

You didn't make any points, other than assume facts of which you don't really know are true.

I responded to your link.

 

Thus far you have been provided points, links, and facts showing Russian hacking.

Youve provided zero to actually refute it.

 

Have fun being illogical.

[Sho Nuff 719]

I didn't claim they were destroyed; I claimed it was reported they were destroyed. There is a transcript of the conversation that contains the lady's own words. If the DNC didn't hold on to the servers, where are they?

The transcript where she doesnt say the servers were destroyed?

Nor was she in charge of securing them...correct?

So you make claims about it was reported that they were destroyed ...is that like a lot of people are saying?

And when asked where it was reported...you e brought nothing. Im guessing its because you know thatbthe source of that reporting is highly suspect (and thats being generous).

[Casual Observer 597]

The transcript where she doesnt say the servers were destroyed?

Nor was she in charge of securing them...correct?

So you make claims about it was reported that they were destroyed ...is that like a lot of people are saying?

And when asked where it was reported...you e brought nothing. Im guessing its because you know thatbthe source of that reporting is highly suspect (and thats being generous).

These are the posts where you prove your utter worthlessness. I posted two links where it was reported. There are others. Donna Brazile was in a position to know and her own words on the subject speak volumes. Sorry you don't like them. Trying to imply that she was not in charge of securing the servers in an attempt to undercut her statements is a weak attempt at best.

[Mr. Hand 482]

These are the posts where you prove your utter worthlessness. I posted two links where it was reported. There are others. Donna Brazile was in a position to know and her own words on the subject speak volumes. Sorry you don't like them. Trying to imply that she was not in charge of securing the servers in an attempt to undercut her statements is a weak attempt at best.

Great posting!

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

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Imagine how speedy trials would be if prosecutors only got to hear one side of the crime.

[Hardcore troubadour 12,596]

These are the posts where you prove your utter worthlessness. I posted two links where it was reported. There are others. Donna Brazile was in a position to know and her own words on the subject speak volumes. Sorry you don't like them. Trying to imply that she was not in charge of securing the servers in an attempt to undercut her statements is a weak attempt at best.

I liked this post after I read the first sentence.

[Sho Nuff 719]

These are the posts where you prove your utter worthlessness. I posted two links where it was reported. There are others. Donna Brazile was in a position to know and her own words on the subject speak volumes. Sorry you don't like them. Trying to imply that she was not in charge of securing the servers in an attempt to undercut her statements is a weak attempt at best.

Neither of those links stated the servers were destroyed.

You seem to have an issue with what you claim vs what you link to.

Her statements were already watered down...she didnt claim the servers were destroyed.

Keep them in place vs destroyed are two different things. And she mentions copies...which is a stand practice as I said.

 

You make claims that I speak of things we cant really know...then you make posts like this. Its really funny.

[Casual Observer 597]

Neither of those links stated the servers were destroyed.

You seem to have an issue with what you claim vs what you link to.

Her statements were already watered down...she didnt claim the servers were destroyed.

Keep them in place vs destroyed are two different things. And she mentions copies...which is a stand practice as I said.

 

You make claims that I speak of things we cant really know...then you make posts like this. Its really funny.

One link expressly states "Destroyed" in the title. Another has Brazile stating the DNC didn't hold on to the (servers). Are you seriously arguing that there is any meaningful difference between "destroying" and her statement of not holding on to the servers? Especially when she says that in response to a question about destroying the servers?

Standard practice for computer forensic examination is to preserve the original machine and make copies of its hard drive or whatever it is, not destroy or get rid of the original. Working with a copy, or supposed copy provided to you by someone else, you could never really be sure if you had a complete copy of all of the data that was on the machine. That's the point of going to the original. Your claim of "standard practice" based on your vast experience is a joke. This is another example of you trying to get over on an appeal to authority, which you don't really have. This is just more evidence of your worthlessness.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

So the FBI still has evidence from JFK assassination (1963) but they were quick as hell to make sure the evidence of the Russian hack got destroyed.

 

Nope....nothing fishy there.