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#81 lesjroza

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Posted 21 February 2018 - 12:51 PM

1.06
1.07

For
1.11
1.12
2.01
2.04

12 teams 35 roster spots

 

 

Too early for me to value this type of pick trade personally. I won't be through player evals until March and then things will change again with the NFL draft.

 

In a vacuum I like the value of that group of 4 over 1.06, 1.07............ for a 35 roster slot league.  The reverse would be true in smaller leagues.

 

However, I have had really good luck drafting in that middle of the first area which would make me hesitant even if I value the 4 picks higher. It seems the occasional uber-talented prospect can fall into that range if the perception of landing spot is poor and or minor  camp injuries...........Beckham comes to mind as one I was fortunate to have fall there in a number of leagues.

 

  



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Posted 21 February 2018 - 01:33 PM

10 team superflex w/ IDP (40 man rosters)

 

Traded: Brandin Cooks, ASJ, Jamal Adams
Received: Jameis Winston, Coby Fleener, 6.06

 

Going into this trade, my QBs on this rebuild were: Sam Bradford, Blaine Gabbert, Josh McCown, Carson Palmer, and Bryce Petty. 

 

In a superflex, you better be able to start 2QBs every week. I had none. Getting max value wasn't as important to me as getting a starter for the next 5+ years.

Jameis, while he has his faults, should play a lot better in 2018 than he did in 2017. His age helps too, in that he's only 24 years old still. While I didn't want to get rid of Cooks, I do think he's slightly overvalued by the fantasy community, and with Edelman coming back next season, that could be a crowded group of pass catchers with a 41 year old Brady.


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#83 ralphster

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Posted 21 February 2018 - 05:37 PM

Gave: Reed, Vernon Davis, Ingram, Manny Sanders.

Got: Crowell, Dez, Hunter Henry, early 2019 3rd.

Reed was at the end of his contract so had to go.
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#84 lesjroza

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 08:06 PM

Gave: Reed, Vernon Davis, Ingram, Manny Sanders.

Got: Crowell, Dez, Hunter Henry, early 2019 3rd.

Reed was at the end of his contract so had to go.

 

I think you got good

 

Really, really hard to peg a value for Reed at this point though



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Posted 26 February 2018 - 01:02 PM

Your dynasty team RB and TE 

 

Gurley

Fournette

McCaffery

Collins

Coleman

Clement

 

Hunter Henry

Witten

 

would you trade McCaffery for Gronk

 

 



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Posted 26 February 2018 - 01:17 PM

Your dynasty team RB and TE 
 
Gurley
Fournette
McCaffery
Collins
Coleman
Clement
 
Hunter Henry
Witten
 
would you trade McCaffery for Gronk
 
 

Not for gronk. Having depth is huge at RB for dynasty. If I did want to go that route, I would go after Kelce or that guy on the Giants. Engram.

This is assuming you are in a PPR, which is where the value is in McCaffrey of course.

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#87 ralphster

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Posted 26 February 2018 - 03:45 PM

I also would not send McCaf for Gronk. Especially not before knowing for sure if he's playing this year.
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Posted 26 February 2018 - 04:57 PM

Count me in also, no waayyyy would I trade Mccaffery for Gronk.

I think Mccaferry could be the second best rb on your team.

Gronk might not even play this next season.

I like Mccaferry a lot, and more then others, I'm keeping him.
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Posted 26 February 2018 - 09:24 PM

Nope
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Posted 27 February 2018 - 09:16 AM

Thanks guys I'm actually the Gronk owner. I've taken over a team that's kinda blah. Just throwing out potential trade offers to see what others think.

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Posted 13 March 2018 - 06:31 AM

Martavis Bryant and a 2019 first
for
Philip Rivers and a 2018 2.1
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Posted 13 March 2018 - 07:21 AM

MB side by a considerable margin imo.
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Posted 16 March 2018 - 09:33 AM

Travis Kelce for Michael Thomas and 2.3
12 team ppr. Qb,2rb,3wr,te,flex
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Posted 16 March 2018 - 09:44 AM

In strict dynasty roster value terms I'd take the MT side of that trade unequivocally. I think MTs style transcends Brees and he will be productive with his next QB. MT is 4 yrs younger than Kelce, not even in his prime vs Kelce who is in his prime and maybe has a 3yr window at a position that tends to break down earlier than WR for high touch players.

 

That said, I get the deal for an owner who is otherwise set at WR and just needs the cherry on top of differentiation at TE to make a dominant run.

 

Is it a TE premy league?



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Posted 16 March 2018 - 10:01 AM

In strict dynasty roster value terms I'd take the MT side of that trade unequivocally. I think MTs style transcends Brees and he will be productive with his next QB. MT is 4 yrs younger than Kelce, not even in his prime vs Kelce who is in his prime and maybe has a 3yr window at a position that tends to break down earlier than WR for high touch players.
 
That said, I get the deal for an owner who is otherwise set at WR and just needs the cherry on top of differentiation at TE to make a dominant run.
 
Is it a TE premy league?

No, but his only other TE is Greg Olsen. And I think Olsens retirement talk today scared him.

That said. The Kelce owner also has Delanie Walker and Jonnu Smith. So while good this year, they could be in the same position themselves next year.
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#96 lesjroza

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Posted 16 March 2018 - 12:15 PM

No, but his only other TE is Greg Olsen. And I think Olsens retirement talk today scared him.

That said. The Kelce owner also has Delanie Walker and Jonnu Smith. So while good this year, they could be in the same position themselves next year.

 

I love Kelce more than most IMO, and for a good long while now, but I think the MT side of that trade is decidedly better in a dynasty, start 3WR (at least) format with no TE premium scoring.................but what say you Kopy?



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Posted 16 March 2018 - 03:06 PM

MT > Kelce imo
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Posted 17 March 2018 - 12:33 AM

Travis Kelce for Michael Thomas and 2.3
12 team ppr. Qb,2rb,3wr,te,flex

This is an even trade I think. Kelce though is a set it and forget it player at a position where only a few guys provide consistent weekly top results at their position.

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Posted 17 March 2018 - 05:45 AM

I love Kelce more than most IMO, and for a good long while now, but I think the MT side of that trade is decidedly better in a dynasty, start 3WR (at least) format with no TE premium scoring.................but what say you Kopy?

I'd say its a fair trade. I would definitely like to be on the Thomas side of the deal right now. But then if the owner goes ahead and nails that 2.3 pick. That might sway it in his favor.
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Posted 18 March 2018 - 07:49 AM

Was offered tarik cohen & gronk for zeke.

rejected
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Posted 23 March 2018 - 11:13 AM

David Johnson and Dede Westbrook
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Lesean McCoy and Adam Thielen

12 team PPR. 1qb, 2rb, 4wr, 1te

Looks to me about as even as you can get.
I'd be Ok with either end.
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Posted 23 March 2018 - 11:25 AM

David Johnson and Dede Westbrook
for
Lesean McCoy and Adam Thielen

12 team PPR. 1qb, 2rb, 4wr, 1te

Looks to me about as even as you can get.
I'd be Ok with either end.

 

 

I wouldn't do it.  Westbrook has the upside to be as good as Thielen and Johnson is better (and younger), than McCoy.  Also, I like AZ's situation more than Buffalo's.



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Posted 23 March 2018 - 08:24 PM

I wouldn't do it.  Westbrook has the upside to be as good as Thielen and Johnson is better (and younger), than McCoy.  Also, I like AZ's situation more than Buffalo's.

I'm a Westbrook fan myself.
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Posted 05 April 2018 - 06:39 AM

Stafford/Gurley/Dez

for

Garoppolo/Melvin Gordon/Michael Thomas?
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Posted 05 April 2018 - 11:50 AM

only if f I'm the team getting Garoppolo, Gordon, and Thomas.



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Posted 05 April 2018 - 02:29 PM

 

only if f I'm the team getting Garoppolo, Gordon, and Thomas.

 

 

 

Yeah agreed, I personally think its close to being unfair...............probably gotta really love Gurley and also be pretty low on Gordon to make that one 



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Posted 07 April 2018 - 05:45 AM

I don't think it's that terrible of a deal. I would definitely rather be on the Garoppolo, Gordon and Thomas side of the deal.
I think the Dez part of the deal is the crappy part. If it was a different reciever than other than him, I'd call it pretty even.
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Posted 11 April 2018 - 06:23 PM

I've been scanning dynasty startup data for the last 30 min and I'm pretty confident saying Saquan Barkley has passed David Johnson for dynasty startup ADP as of now, earlier than my "by summer drafts" prediction. 

 

Perhaps it swings back if Barkley lands poorly. No survey to go along with the data but I suspect owners feel Az is now a shaky enough location that they are willing to take the risk of landing spot for Barkley all things considered.



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Posted 13 April 2018 - 06:08 AM

This one is kind of interesting. It's a 14 teamer.
Team A traded 1.01
Team B traded 1.02, Joe Mixon, and a 2019 first.
Everyone is saying team B won the trade hands down.
But I'd rather be team A personally.
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#110 lesjroza

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Posted 13 April 2018 - 11:14 AM

This one is kind of interesting. It's a 14 teamer.
Team A traded 1.01
Team B traded 1.02, Joe Mixon, and a 2019 first.
Everyone is saying team B won the trade hands down.
But I'd rather be team A personally.

 

In a vacuum my first blush Team A as well Kopy but number of roster slots can swing that type of deal on the margins.

 

18-20 protected roster slots, its Team A for me

 

30+ roster slots with no cuts, I think I'd rather have Team B even though I'm all in on Barkley............... but I'd be praying for a good landing spot in the NFL draft this year for one of a couple of non-Barkley RBs. 

 

How that '19 first "looks" in terms of draft zip code could matter too, I value having an extra forward 1st in back pocket more than most



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Posted 15 April 2018 - 03:31 PM

Stafford/Gurley/Dez

for

Garoppolo/Melvin Gordon/Michael Thomas?


Made the following deal:

Matt Ryan/Gurley/Dez

for

Garoppolo/Gordon/MT
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Posted 16 April 2018 - 10:41 AM

Made the following deal:
Matt Ryan/Gurley/Dez
for
Garoppolo/Gordon/MT

I would put Stafford and Ryan in the same tier.
So either way, I like your side of things.
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Posted 16 April 2018 - 11:12 AM

I just did a 1.12, 2.12, 3.12 this year. And a 1st, 2nd, 3rd next year.
For:
Isaiah Crowell and a first next year.

It takes me completely out of this year's draft, but I'm not that high on this years class outside of a few.
I got a great team, and just wanted 1 more RB bench option. (Always loved Crowells potential).

Plus he's a bad team, so it should be a top half pick next year. I'd say, 1.6, worst case scenario for me.
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Posted 16 April 2018 - 11:24 AM

I just did a 1.12, 2.12, 3.12 this year. And a 1st, 2nd, 3rd next year.
For:
Isaiah Crowell and a first next year.

It takes me completely out of this year's draft, but I'm not that high on this years class outside of a few.
I got a great team, and just wanted 1 more RB bench option. (Always loved Crowells potential).

Plus he's a bad team, so it should be a top half pick next year. I'd say, 1.6, worst case scenario for me.


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Posted 18 April 2018 - 09:12 PM

12 Team PPR TE yardage bonus



Team A got
Wilson, Russell SEA QB
Henry, Derrick TEN RB
Adams, Davante GBP WR
Njouku, David CLE TE
Walker, Delanie TEN TE
Pick1.08, Pick 4.05;
2019 Round 2 Draft Pick; 2019 Round 3 Draft Pick

Team B got
Wentz, Carson PHI QB
Hunt, Kareem KCC RB
Graham, Jimmy GBP TE
Pick 1.04;Year 2018 Draft Pick 2.07
2019 Round 1 Draft Pick

#116 lesjroza

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Posted 20 April 2018 - 10:30 AM

12 Team PPR TE yardage bonus



Team A got Wilson, Russell SEA QB;Henry, Derrick TEN RB;Adams, Davante GBP WR;Njoku, David CLE TE;Walker, Delanie TEN TE; Year 2018 Draft Pick 1.08;Year 2018 Draft Pick 4.05; Year 2019 Round 2 Draft Pick;Year 2019 Round 3 Draft Pick

Team B got Wentz, Carson PHI QB;Hunt, Kareem KCC RB;Graham, Jimmy GBP TE; Year 2018 Draft Pick 1.04;Year 2018 Draft Pick 2.07; Year 2019 Round 1 Draft Pick

 

 

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Posted 20 April 2018 - 01:43 PM

12 Team PPR TE yardage bonus



Team A got Wilson, Russell SEA QB;Henry, Derrick TEN RB;Adams, Davante GBP WR;Njoku, David CLE TE;Walker, Delanie TEN TE; Year 2018 Draft Pick 1.08;Year 2018 Draft Pick 4.05; Year 2019 Round 2 Draft Pick;Year 2019 Round 3 Draft Pick

Team B got Wentz, Carson PHI QB;Hunt, Kareem KCC RB;Graham, Jimmy GBP TE; Year 2018 Draft Pick 1.04;Year 2018 Draft Pick 2.07; Year 2019 Round 1 Draft Pick


Team A

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 05:21 PM

This guy means serious business over a Jason Witten offer.  Do not ever send him another trade offer.  Ever.  

 

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 04:32 AM

Would you guys give juju + eagles to receive amari in a dynasty?

It's a start 2 dst league. Also have lions, cards

Most places I'm seeing rate cooper as the better dynasty player....

#120 ralphster

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 06:58 AM

I'd counter w JuJu + Lions for Cooper.
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