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#1 seafoam1

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Posted 13 March 2018 - 06:51 AM

Nice move.

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Posted 13 March 2018 - 07:20 AM

great get for the bears
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Posted 13 March 2018 - 07:30 AM

great get for the bears

I agree. And it's 6 mil over all, and 5 mil in guarantees less than the Watkins deal.
Plus, I think he's a better WR. Bears did excellent.
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Posted 13 March 2018 - 08:16 AM

Very good move for the Bears. The contract is very fair

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Posted 13 March 2018 - 08:57 AM

This is the best thing that the Bears could have done for themselves this offseason. Robinson is only 24 and has a good chance of full recovery this year. Bears need to pile up on receivers as they had probably the worst group in football last year and now have their franchise QB in place. I kind of hope they trade down from 8 this draft if anyone wants that spot for a QB. Else take the Notre Dame guard.

Watch out for Cohen out of the backfield this year if he can be back fully.

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Posted 13 March 2018 - 09:43 AM

TE Trey Burton headed to the Bears as well. A couple nice moves for Matt Nagy and this offense.


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Posted 13 March 2018 - 10:31 AM

TE Trey Burton headed to the Bears as well. A couple nice moves for Matt Nagy and this offense.

Wow. Bears hitten an early home run.
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Posted 13 March 2018 - 01:53 PM

I'm really happy with todays moves by the Bears.
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Posted 13 March 2018 - 02:13 PM

This appears to be a good move for the Bears but what about Robinson? Which tier would you put him in?

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Posted 13 March 2018 - 04:42 PM

Mmm im not so sure Robinson will be the player from 2015 or the flop in 2016.

I think his value should be low.

I hope he sales high.

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Posted 13 March 2018 - 07:43 PM

Hopefully he'll be as good as Marcus Robinson. He had a few great seasons with the bears.


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Posted 14 March 2018 - 09:45 AM

We'll be doing some expanded analysis on some of the most important free agent signings. Just posted Katz's thoughts on the Bears signings of Robinson and Burton.


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Posted 14 March 2018 - 07:03 PM

This dude had one good year padding his stats on a terrible team.

Why do people talk about him like hes a future hall of famer?

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Posted 14 March 2018 - 08:18 PM

This dude had one good year padding his stats on a terrible team.

Why do people talk about him like hes a future hall of famer?

I don't think anyone is calling him a future HOFer. He's just a young player who is good at football who has a lot of upside.

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Posted 15 March 2018 - 12:43 AM

He wasn't all that great in 2016.

I think he was a wr4 last time we saw when in a full season.

I agree with post #13.
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Posted 15 March 2018 - 02:30 AM

Allen Robinson is 6'3", 220lbs of WR1 with the tape to prove it.

Now he goes to a team with a young QB/RB tandem and a new offensive minded coach with 200 some receptions and 2k yards to replace from last year.

As a Bears homer and ARob owner in ff I'm giddy at the possibilities.
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#17 weepaws

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Posted 15 March 2018 - 08:14 AM

Also lots of tape to prove he's a wr4 in 2016.

Hope that someone in my likes him as a over ranked wr1.

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Posted 15 March 2018 - 08:23 AM

Also lots of tape to prove he's a wr4 in 2016.

Hope that someone in my likes him as a over ranked wr1.

Proverbs 14:18&19

 

Don't we all know that 2016 is more a byproduct of Bortle's issues than anyone else's?  Let's face it, last year, he was the same crappy QB for the first 2/3 of the season that he was in 2016.



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Posted 15 March 2018 - 08:29 AM

Steep downgrade from Bortles to Trubisky.
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Posted 15 March 2018 - 08:39 AM

Steep downgrade from Bortles to Trubisky.

 

I don't know about that.



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Posted 15 March 2018 - 08:42 AM

Don't we all know that 2016 is more a byproduct of Bortle's issues than anyone else's?  Let's face it, last year, he was the same crappy QB for the first 2/3 of the season that he was in 2016.

I don't disgree about the QB issue, but look at the tape from 2016, and you will see a wr1 from the 2015 that drop a ton of balls in the 2016 season he looked like a wr that wasn't eager to be one again.

Now he's going to a team with more QB question marks, let's see how much he wants to be a wr1.

I don't see the production to make him a wr1 this next season.

I wouldn't take him higher then a low wr2 and better yet a wr3.
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Proverbs 15:29. Proverbs 18:12. 1 John 2:1-2. Ephesians 6:19. 2 Timothy 2:3-4. 1 Peter 4:14
Proverbs 23:12. Psalm 121:7-8. Ephesians 1:7. Deuteronomy 28:11-13. Romans 10:10. Romans 8:31
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Posted 15 March 2018 - 09:22 AM

I would rather have Trubisky than Bortles.

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Posted 15 March 2018 - 09:38 AM

I would rather play with the Jags

But they didn't want thim back.



Proverbs 14:32&34&35.
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All ways lead to God, everyone one will be judged and then sentence, but there is only one way to Heaven and thats though Jesus Christ Lord and Savior. God Bless

Isaiah 12:2. Luke 14:23. Daniel 4:37. 2 Kings 17:39. Nahum 1:7. 1 Timothy 6:18-19. Psalm 9:7&8.
Psalm 34:18. Ezra 8:22. 2 Corinthians 1:3. Ezekiel 36:26. Matthew 7:24-25. Proverbs 28:21&27. 1 Peter 3.
1 John 3:16. Lamentations 3:25. Proverbs 10:27. Ephesians 6:13 Ezekiel 18:21-22. 2 Corinthians 10:5
Proverbs 15:29. Proverbs 18:12. 1 John 2:1-2. Ephesians 6:19. 2 Timothy 2:3-4. 1 Peter 4:14
Proverbs 23:12. Psalm 121:7-8. Ephesians 1:7. Deuteronomy 28:11-13. Romans 10:10. Romans 8:31
2 Peter 3:9. Isaiah 5:21. Proverbs 11:2. Matthews 5:16. Romans 12:14. James 1:8.
Psalm 58:11. Ezekiel 33:11-13. Hosea 14:9. Psalm 100:4. Romans 14:9. 2 Chronicles 32:8.
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Posted 15 March 2018 - 10:04 AM

I don't disgree about the QB issue, but look at the tape from 2016, and you will see a wr1 from the 2015 that drop a ton of balls in the 2016 season he looked like a wr that wasn't eager to be one again.

Now he's going to a team with more QB question marks, let's see how much he wants to be a wr1.

I don't see the production to make him a wr1 this next season.

I wouldn't take him higher then a low wr2 and better yet a wr3.

 

To quote Roger Clemens, I think you're mis-remembering.  He had the exact same number of targets in 2015 that he did in 2016 with only 7 less receptions.  In 2015, Robinson is credited with 5 drops, but only 3 in 2016, so the tape will show that Robinson had less drops - not more.

 

I can believe an argument of "lack of interest", I saw that with Michael Clayton back in a day... and Mike Williams, but the stats, as well as the film on Bortles, say that Robinson wasn't the problem.  It's also possible that the lack of interest came with frustration over his QB not being able to get him the ball.  His ypr did drop from 17 to 12.  I don't really know what the real reason is as I never really cared to watch many Jacksonville games, but he does have the talent.



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Posted 15 March 2018 - 10:05 AM

i would rather be a hammer than a nail.


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Posted 15 March 2018 - 01:22 PM

To quote Roger Clemens, I think you're mis-remembering.  He had the exact same number of targets in 2015 that he did in 2016 with only 7 less receptions.  In 2015, Robinson is credited with 5 drops, but only 3 in 2016, so the tape will show that Robinson had less drops - not more.
 
I can believe an argument of "lack of interest", I saw that with Michael Clayton back in a day... and Mike Williams, but the stats, as well as the film on Bortles, say that Robinson wasn't the problem.  It's also possible that the lack of interest came with frustration over his QB not being able to get him the ball.  His ypr did drop from 17 to 12.  I don't really know what the real reason is as I never really cared to watch many Jacksonville games, but he does have the talent.

Yeah maybe, maybe not.

Now I don't see him as a wr1 this next season, how about you, do you have him ranked as a wr1, in ff means one of the top 12 WRs?

I don't, and once again another team with QB question marks and the last time I saw Robinson play he posted wr4 numbers.

So right now today where would you rank him?

Proverbs 14:32&34&35.
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All ways lead to God, everyone one will be judged and then sentence, but there is only one way to Heaven and thats though Jesus Christ Lord and Savior. God Bless

Isaiah 12:2. Luke 14:23. Daniel 4:37. 2 Kings 17:39. Nahum 1:7. 1 Timothy 6:18-19. Psalm 9:7&8.
Psalm 34:18. Ezra 8:22. 2 Corinthians 1:3. Ezekiel 36:26. Matthew 7:24-25. Proverbs 28:21&27. 1 Peter 3.
1 John 3:16. Lamentations 3:25. Proverbs 10:27. Ephesians 6:13 Ezekiel 18:21-22. 2 Corinthians 10:5
Proverbs 15:29. Proverbs 18:12. 1 John 2:1-2. Ephesians 6:19. 2 Timothy 2:3-4. 1 Peter 4:14
Proverbs 23:12. Psalm 121:7-8. Ephesians 1:7. Deuteronomy 28:11-13. Romans 10:10. Romans 8:31
2 Peter 3:9. Isaiah 5:21. Proverbs 11:2. Matthews 5:16. Romans 12:14. James 1:8.
Psalm 58:11. Ezekiel 33:11-13. Hosea 14:9. Psalm 100:4. Romans 14:9. 2 Chronicles 32:8.
John 3:3-7. Philippians 2:11. Titus 2:11-14. Ephesians 4:2. Romans 11:33. Proverbs 12:1&26.
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Posted 15 March 2018 - 02:03 PM

Yeah maybe, maybe not.

Now I don't see him as a wr1 this next season, how about you, do you have him ranked as a wr1, in ff means one of the top 12 WRs?

I don't, and once again another team with QB question marks and the last time I saw Robinson play he posted wr4 numbers.

So right now today where would you rank him?

Proverbs 14:32&34&35.

 

I wouldn't draft him to be my WR1, but that's more because of Trubisky than Robinson.  If Robinson had gone to a team like the Seattle, then yes, I'd have drafted him as WR1.  If I had him as my WR2, I'd love it and be fell like I have a shot a 2 solid WR1's.

 

Without any in-depth analysis and just looking at how the receivers finished last year, I'd rank him outside the top 10, but inside the top 20.



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Posted 15 March 2018 - 02:14 PM

Without any in-depth analysis and just looking at how the receivers finished last year, I'd rank him outside the top 10, but inside the top 20.


Probably what most will have him at. Myself included. That being said, I am waiting on wideout this year so will prob grab him as a 1 in round 2 or 3.

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Posted 15 March 2018 - 02:37 PM

I wouldn't draft him to be my WR1, but that's more because of Trubisky than Robinson.  If Robinson had gone to a team like the Seattle, then yes, I'd have drafted him as WR1.  If I had him as my WR2, I'd love it and be fell like I have a shot a 2 solid WR1's.
 
Without any in-depth analysis and just looking at how the receivers finished last year, I'd rank him outside the top 10, but inside the top 20.


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All ways lead to God, everyone one will be judged and then sentence, but there is only one way to Heaven and thats though Jesus Christ Lord and Savior. God Bless

Isaiah 12:2. Luke 14:23. Daniel 4:37. 2 Kings 17:39. Nahum 1:7. 1 Timothy 6:18-19. Psalm 9:7&8.
Psalm 34:18. Ezra 8:22. 2 Corinthians 1:3. Ezekiel 36:26. Matthew 7:24-25. Proverbs 28:21&27. 1 Peter 3.
1 John 3:16. Lamentations 3:25. Proverbs 10:27. Ephesians 6:13 Ezekiel 18:21-22. 2 Corinthians 10:5
Proverbs 15:29. Proverbs 18:12. 1 John 2:1-2. Ephesians 6:19. 2 Timothy 2:3-4. 1 Peter 4:14
Proverbs 23:12. Psalm 121:7-8. Ephesians 1:7. Deuteronomy 28:11-13. Romans 10:10. Romans 8:31
2 Peter 3:9. Isaiah 5:21. Proverbs 11:2. Matthews 5:16. Romans 12:14. James 1:8.
Psalm 58:11. Ezekiel 33:11-13. Hosea 14:9. Psalm 100:4. Romans 14:9. 2 Chronicles 32:8.
John 3:3-7. Philippians 2:11. Titus 2:11-14. Ephesians 4:2. Romans 11:33. Proverbs 12:1&26.
1 Timothy 1:15. Psalm 119:6. Proverbs 22:4. Psalm 46:1. Romans 12:17-21. 2 Chronicles 34&35.