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Colluders on the Loose

 

Robert Mueller was tasked to find evidence of Trump and Russia collusion that might have warped the 2016 campaign and thrown the election to Trump. After a year, his investigation has found no concrete evidence of collusion. So it has often turned to other purported Trump misadventures. Ironically, collusion of all sorts — illegal, barely legal, and simply unethical — has been the sea that Washington fish always swim in.

 

Christopher Steele, hired by the Hillary Clinton campaign through a series of firewall intermediaries, probably paid Russian sources for gossip and smears. If there is a crime of collusion, then Clinton-campaign contractors should be under investigation for seeking Russian help to find dirt on Trump, to spread smears around throughout the DOJ, FBI, and CIA, and to make sure that the dirt was leaked to the press in the final weeks of the campaign — for the sole “insurance” purposes of losing Trump the election.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/04/colluders-washington-clinton-obama-loaylists/

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Colluders on the Loose

 

Robert Mueller was tasked to find evidence of Trump and Russia collusion that might have warped the 2016 campaign and thrown the election to Trump. After a year, his investigation has found no concrete evidence of collusion. So it has often turned to other purported Trump misadventures. Ironically, collusion of all sorts — illegal, barely legal, and simply unethical — has been the sea that Washington fish always swim in.

 

Christopher Steele, hired by the Hillary Clinton campaign through a series of firewall intermediaries, probably paid Russian sources for gossip and smears. If there is a crime of collusion, then Clinton-campaign contractors should be under investigation for seeking Russian help to find dirt on Trump, to spread smears around throughout the DOJ, FBI, and CIA, and to make sure that the dirt was leaked to the press in the final weeks of the campaign — for the sole “insurance” purposes of losing Trump the election.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/04/colluders-washington-clinton-obama-loaylists/

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20 pages of evidence presented against Manafort.

You think he has nothing on Trump and his campaign?

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great article definitely a shoot the messenger piece for the hacks who stick their fingers in their ears, cry and ignore the reality of what the previous administration was up to.

 

And they wonder why trump doesn't trust the Obama intelligence depts.

The scumbags where all tied up in the biggest political, criminal, abuse of power witch hunt in the history of our great country.

 

They will pay.

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20 pages of evidence presented against Manafort.

You think he has nothing on Trump and his campaign?

I read somewhere that the non partisan straight shooter Mueller is looking to grant immunity to 5 of manafort's cohorts.

Think the Podesta bros are a couple of em ?

 

Mueller wouldn't be that much of a hack ? Would he ?

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I read somewhere that the non partisan straight shooter Mueller is looking to grant immunity to 5 of manafort's cohorts.

Think the Podesta bros are a couple of em ?

 

Mueller wouldn't be that much of a hack ? Would he ?

Do you know why he would do that? Because they provided key information dumbass...

Yeah Im sure he is just granting immunity to those with ties to democrats.

And that you try the sarcastic crap about him is hilarious.

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Surly any day now.

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I swear, these are the same retards that probably sat around blaming Hoover for Pearl Harbor. 😂😂😂

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I swear, these are the same retards that probably sat around blaming Hoover for Pearl Harbor. 😂😂😂

remember when you guys blamed Bush for Benghazi

I do

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remember when you guys blamed Bush for Benghazi

I do

The cool thing about the inter board? Is you can actually search and find stuff. So go ahead. That seems like a heck of a reach.

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remember when you guys blamed Bush for Benghazi

I do

I do however, remember when you and Trump himself tried to blame Obama for the sofa agreement that Bush signed years earlier.😃

 

Like I said...

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https://bigleaguepolitics.com/lisa-page-confirms-the-chinese-not-the-russians-hacked-hillarys-emails/

 

Lisa Page confirms the Chinese backed HRC emails......NOT the Russians. That's a wrap folks.....turn off the lights when you leave.

You won't hear the Hollywood Libtards yelling about China doing exactly what they are so worked up about Russia doing. China is the biggest movie market in the world.

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Hey hack bros, wiff and sniff, do you support releasing the full unredacted version ?

Probably not if it burns intel sources...its already unprecedented due to Nunes BS and that of the GOP

Members of House Intel.

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Probably not if it burns intel sources...its already unprecedented due to Nunes BS and that of the GOP

Members of House Intel.

yeah didnt think so

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yeah didnt think so

Sorry that Im for protecting the actual interests of the country over proving Nunes and the GOP are morons.

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Two things from your article. While it admits the Dossier was used for FISA it states July 2016 as the start of the investigation based on information from Pappy. That assertion isn't true though.

 

The investigation was already underway in 2015 with the Strzok tweet asking if OCONUS lures had been approved. The FBI/CIA were working to infiltrate the Trump Campaign (as well as others) with Misfud, et al....... No one here can explain that fact away. Anything Pappy MIGHT have said that supposedly 'triggered' anything was predicated on the FBI/CIA informants desperately trying to get him (and others) to open the door into the Trump campaign.

 

Sorry I sh!t all over your weak a$$ link there wiff.

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they still got nothing

Trump still potus

They still crying

Trump isn't even under investigation.

 

Wtf are they wasting our money on?

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Colluders on the Loose

 

Robert Mueller was tasked to find evidence of Trump and Russia collusion that might have warped the 2016 campaign and thrown the election to Trump. After a year, his investigation has found no concrete evidence of collusion. So it has often turned to other purported Trump misadventures. Ironically, collusion of all sorts — illegal, barely legal, and simply unethical — has been the sea that Washington fish always swim in.

 

Christopher Steele, hired by the Hillary Clinton campaign through a series of firewall intermediaries, probably paid Russian sources for gossip and smears. If there is a crime of collusion, then Clinton-campaign contractors should be under investigation for seeking Russian help to find dirt on Trump, to spread smears around throughout the DOJ, FBI, and CIA, and to make sure that the dirt was leaked to the press in the final weeks of the campaign — for the sole “insurance” purposes of losing Trump the election.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/04/colluders-washington-clinton-obama-loaylists/

 

This can't be repeated enough.

 

I have yet to see anyone counter it here, at commieguys, or on social media. They always stfu or deflect to stormy.

 

Honcho? Clark? MDC? Falcon? Any thoughts? (we already know wiff and sho can't handle the truth, not even worth asking them)

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At least this thread is only 100 pages. Those radical loons over at the other site have 2000+ pages on muh Russia.

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https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1025893802366521344.html

 

Great thread on two notes....

 

Unredacted FISA will drop AND outlines the Obama Admin may worked with Putin's FSB to set up the Trump Tower meeting.

 

BOOM.....

 

Obama admin gave the Russian chick a special visa to travel to the US.

 

Russian chick meets with Fusion GPS before and after the Trump Tower meeting.

 

Nothing fishy at all.

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This can't be repeated enough.

 

I have yet to see anyone counter it here, at commieguys, or on social media. They always stfu or deflect to stormy.

 

Honcho? Clark? MDC? Falcon? Any thoughts? (we already know wiff and sho can't handle the truth, not even worth asking them)

There is not evidence he paid any Russian officials...in addition...what he found was turned over to the authorities and not shopped to the campaign hoping for favorable government treatment .

You wouldnt know truth of it but you on your giant ass.

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There is not evidence he paid any Russian officials...in addition...what he found was turned over to the authorities and not shopped to the campaign hoping for favorable government treatment .

You wouldnt know truth of it but you on your giant ass.

Retard fingers acting up again.

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Obama admin gave the Russian chick a special visa to travel to the US.

 

Russian chick meets with Fusion GPS before and after the Trump Tower meeting.

 

Nothing fishy at all.

AND the Obama admin worked with Putin's lackeys to arrange it.

 

More projection by the left.....blame Putin for trying to help Trump when in reality he was trying to help Hillary.

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https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/russian-collusion-hillary-clinton/

 

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Russian Collusion: It Was Hillary Clinton All Along

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Russia Investigation: It's beginning to look as if claims of monstrous collusion between Russian officials and U.S. political operatives were true. But it wasn't Donald Trump who was guilty of Russian collusion. It was Hillary Clinton and U.S. intelligence officials who worked with Russians and others to entrap Trump.

 

That's the stunning conclusion of a RealClear Investigations report by Lee Smith, who looked in-depth at the controversial June 2016 Trump Tower meeting between officials of then-candidate Donald Trump's campaign staff and a Russian lawyer known to have ties with high-level officials in Vladimir Putin's government.

 

The media have spun a tale of Trump selling his soul to the Russians for campaign dirt to use against Hillary, beginning with the now-infamous Trump Tower meeting.

 

 

But "a growing body of evidence ... indicates that the meeting may have been a setup part of a broad effort to tarnish the Trump campaign involving Hillary Clinton operatives employed by Kremlin-linked figures and Department of Justice officials," wrote Smith.

 

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Smith painstakingly weaves together the evidence that's already out there but has been largely ignored by the mainstream media, which have become so seized with Trump-hatred that their reporting even on routine matters can no longer be trusted.

 

But he adds in more evidence that the Justice Department only recently handed over to Congress. And It's damning.

 

Memos, emails and texts now in Congress' possession show that the Justice Department and the FBI worked together both before and after the election with Fusion GPS and their main link to the scandal, former British spy and longtime FBI informant Chris Steele.

 

 

As a former British spook in Moscow, Steele had extensive ties to Russia. That's why he was picked as the primary researcher to compile the "unverified and salacious" Trump dossier, as former FBI Director James Comey once described it.

 

Steele's dossier, for which Fusion reportedly received $1 million, was largely based on interviews with Russian officials. And who paid that $1 million? As we and others have reported, it was Hillary Clinton's campaign and the Democratic National Committee, then under Hillary's control.

 

The media knew all this, of course, but largely ignored it.

 

The great irony here is that, after more than two years of investigating, the only real evidence of collusion with Russians at all points to Hillary Clinton. It was she who hired Steele to dig up dirt on Trump using Russian sources.

 

But now, it turns out, it goes even deeper than that.

 

Events surrounding that now-famous June 2016 Trump meeting suggest it, too, was a concoction of Hillary Clinton and her deep-state allies. And that meeting was the basis for much of the later Russian collusion "investigation," if it can even be called that.

 

Bruce Ohr, the No. 4-ranking official at the Justice Department, "coordinated before, during and after the election" with both Fusion GPS founder Glenn Simpson and with Steele, notes Smith.

 

This shouldn't come as a surprise, given that Ohr's wife Nellie, a sometime employee of the CIA, was also working for Fusion GPS.

 

The FBI fired Steele in October 2016 after it discovered that he leaked information to the press. But that meant nothing. Bruce Ohr merely continued as the conduit from Fusion GPS for information related to Steele's bogus Trump dossier.

 

The FBI and Justice used information from that 35-page document as the pretense for the FISA wiretap on Trump aide Carter Page. Far from being limited in scope, those wiretaps in essence provided a backdoor key to the entire Trump campaign and the basis for the Russian investigation.

 

So far so good.

 

But an earlier investigation by RealClearPolitics showed that as early as March 2016, the FBI, other Western intelligence sources and Clinton campaign operatives contacted the Trump campaign about potentially damaging information about Clinton.

 

They were in effect live-trolling the campaign.

 

This is significant. Natalia Veselnitskaya, the Putin-connected lawyer who contacted the Trump campaign about having dirt on Hillary Clinton, was a client of Fusion GPS when she met with Donald Trump Jr. and others in the Trump campaign.

 

And she was accompanied by a former Soviet military counterintelligence official, now working as a lobbyist, named Rinat Akhmetshin.

 

Let that sink in for a moment.

 

What's especially curious is that GPS' Glenn Simpson admits he had dinner with Veselnitskaya both the night before and the night after the Trump Tower meeting.

 

Any possibility there was no discussion of the meeting between the two? Seems highly unlikely. Veselnitskaya herself subsequently claimed that the talking points for her meeting with the Trump people were provided to her by Simpson.

 

Once in the meeting, she quickly dropped the promises of having dirt on Hillary Clinton and instead brought up Russia's long-standing desire to get rid of the Magnitsky Act, under which the U.S. imposed sanctions on a number of Russian moguls and government officials.

 

In short, they were baiting a trap for the Trump campaign to make it appear as if they were colluding with Russian officials.

 

Given the nonstop media coverage following leaks by the FBI and Justice, it seems the meeting served its purpose: It sowed the seeds of suspicion about the Trump campaign's supposed Russian collusion.

 

The evidence goes even deeper than what we have summarized here. We suggest you read Smith's piece, linked above.

 

Congress, using the documents it pried out of the Justice Department after repeated requests, is busy getting at what might turn out to be the scandal of the century. And Congress is now doing the work the Justice Department and FBI won't.

 

"So here you have information flowing from the Clinton campaign from the Russians," House Intelligence Committee Chairman Rep. Devin Nunes told Fox News on Sunday.

 

Was Hillary The Real Colluder?

Nunes, who heads Congress' investigation into the matter, said it was likely that information "was handed directly from Russian propaganda arms to the Clinton campaign, fed into the top levels of the FBI and Department of Justice to open up a counterintelligence investigation into a political campaign that has now colluded (with) nearly every top official at the DOJ and FBI over the course of the last couple years. Absolutely amazing."

 

We have to agree. If all that is true, it is absolutely amazing. After all, these are serious felonies, using the federal agencies to spy on a political opponent in league with a hostile foreign power.

 

As we said, the only real collusion appears to be on the part of the Clinton campaign aided by the Obama administration, CIA chief John Brennan and a handful of high-level officials at the Department of Justice and FBI.

 

What's next? It's possible the collusion investigation soon will turn from Trump to Clinton. If so, it could lead to more resignations and possibly jail time for those involved. That includes perhaps even Hillary Clinton, who sits at the political epicenter of all this illegality

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