wiffleball 4,638 Posted July 23, 2017 Just bc I'm sick of having the 'water is wet' conversation with Filthy and his crew - who are just spouting whatever Trump/Hannity word-vomit. Here's the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs (nom). I feel dumber for even having to point this out, but then again, apparently, so does this guy. So, either you and Shammity know more than him, or STFUP already. Gen. Joseph F. Dunford, the nominee to serve as the next chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told the Senate Armed Services Committee on Thursday that Russia poses the greatest security threat to the United States, and said it is reasonable to send Ukraine heavy weapons to defend against Russian aggression. The general advocated updating the way the Pentagon plans for hybrid warfare, in which conventional military actions are combined with secretive operations such as arming separatists from another country. Russia’s nuclear weapons, combined with its recent actions, make it a threat to take seriously, Dunford said. “If you want to talk about a nation that could pose an existential threat to the United States, I’d have to point to Russia,” Dunford said. “If you look at their behavior, it’s nothing short of alarming.” Just bc Trump either: 1) Thinks they're besties and/or: 2) Is getting paid/blackmailed into downplaying their threat to us Doesn't make it so. He''s also blown off the considered, informed, experienced and intelligent judgement of both house of Congress and the entire IC, so he's kind of got a track record already. End of discussion. The Grown ups have spoken Donny. Go back to your parades and Vroom Vroom trucks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted July 23, 2017 So it's not global warming now ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 982 Posted July 23, 2017 Obama laughed at Romney when he brought up Russia as a threat and you svcked his cack for 8 years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12th Man 884 Posted July 23, 2017 Ring around the Rosie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,380 Posted July 23, 2017 "1980 called they want their foreign policy back" - Barack Hussain Obama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,814 Posted July 23, 2017 I think democrats gave up their "Complain about Russia" card when Putin literally took over new land under democratic watch......kinda hard to unring that bell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted July 24, 2017 Obama laughed at Romney when he brought up Russia as a threat and you svcked his cack for 8 years. And he was wrong...now all of a sudden something was right when Obama said it? Russia does not support what we do...nor are they interested in what our European allies are interested in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 982 Posted July 24, 2017 And he was wrong...now all of a sudden something was right when Obama said it? Russia does not support what we do...nor are they interested in what our European allies are interested in. No it's not right now. But, there are things we can work with Russia on, and push our goals against what they disagree with, without labeling them an enemy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted July 24, 2017 No it's not right now. But, there are things we can work with Russia on, and push our goals against what they disagree with, without labeling them an enemy. Sure...but we don't have to pretend they haven't done crap and crap against us. We don't need to keep denying what our own IC has said with confidence because Putin said he didn't do it.They are our biggest adversary globally right now. Trumps words and actions have done little more than support Putins wishes. Which is why congress is taking action and he is whining about it on Twitter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted July 24, 2017 Obama laughed at Romney when he brought up Russia as a threat and you svcked his cack for 8 years.pretty much Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted July 24, 2017 pretty much And you all saod Obama was awful and wrong about so much. So this really isn't a good thing to bring up now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,638 Posted July 24, 2017 and you svcked his cack for 8 years. Link? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fandandy 3,311 Posted July 24, 2017 And he was wrong...now all of a sudden something was right when Obama said it? Russia does not support what we do...nor are they interested in what our European allies are interested in. What have we done that's been worth supporting in recent memory? They (Russia) abstained from the UN vote on using force in Libya. Too bad they didn't veto it but history has proven them correct. They were opposed to the Iraq war. Again, history has proven them correct. We make messes. They seem to be the adults in the room with foresight. People cry about Crimea. Russia bad. The people voted overwhelmingly, almost 80% in favor of joining Russia. I don't see why we need to be enemies and I support any attempts to work together where we can with Russia. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted July 24, 2017 And he was wrong...now all of a sudden something was right when Obama said it? Sort of like Obama openly announcing that he did not take Russia seriously, then 8 years later his sycophants blaming a new president for Russia being a danger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted July 24, 2017 What have we done that's been worth supporting in recent memory? They (Russia) abstained from the UN vote on using force in Libya. Too bad they didn't veto it but history has proven them correct. They were opposed to the Iraq war. Again, history has proven them correct. We make messes. They seem to be the adults in the room with foresight. People cry about Crimea. Russia bad. The people voted overwhelmingly, almost 80% in favor of joining Russia. I don't see why we need to be enemies and I support any attempts to work together where we can with Russia. You may want to read up more about the atrocities in Russia and Putins goals in Europe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted July 24, 2017 Sort of like Obama openly announcing that he did not take Russia seriously, then 8 years later his sycophants blaming a new president for Russia being a danger. Trump isn't being blamed that they are a danger. Trump is being blamed for cozying up to them on just about everything and all the lying about contact with them and possible collusion with them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joneo 529 Posted July 24, 2017 Sort of like Obama openly announcing that he did not take Russia seriously, then 8 years later his sycophants blaming a new president for Russia being a danger. He probably thought the JV-ers were going to take care of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted July 24, 2017 Gen. Joseph F. Dunford, the nominee to serve as the next chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told the Senate Armed Services Committee on Thursday that Russia poses the greatest security threat to the United States, and said it is reasonable to send Ukraine heavy weapons to defend against Russian aggression. https://www.defense.gov/About/Biographies/Biography-View/Article/621329/general-joseph-f-dunford-jr/ He's not the nominee, right? He took over October 1st, 2015...........and was appointed by Obama. What is it with Democrats and Ukraine? They were trying to rig the election for Hillary and now wanting heavy weapons? Quid pro quo? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites