College football playoff rankings

[Sho Nuff 719]

SEC has covered the last 8 straight championship games vs other conf teams.

 

4 of them were underdogs.

 

3 of those dogs won outright with Auburn losing by 3 to 10.5 favorite Fla St.......Auburn beating Oregon as a 1 pt dog. Fla as a TD dog blowing out OHS. LSU beating Okl by 7 as a 6 pt dog.

 

Most of the other years blowing teams out of the water on way to covering.

 

So little Joe Vegas comes on air and answers a question because he wants people to bet on a conf that has covered the last 8 straight championship games they played vs. other conf. representatives?

 

Makes sense if you are an idiot.

 

Do past games and outcomes of those games matter in these discussions at all? How are the results spun? The numbers of covers? Do these mean anything? Or is it, Oh you are dumb, blah, I have nothing to say, blah. ??

 

Last 8 is great...you realize college rosters turnover right?

And that what happened 8 years ago has zero bearing on right now.

[listen2me 23 1,541]

Yea I agree, SEC in spots has had inflated lines I would guess.

 

But they are still winning in those spots. 7-3 last year in bowls. One of the losses Auburn covering easily in championship. So they are still proving themselves the better teams in these games even in stretches where they are not covering well.

 

At times sure, we can cheery pick streaks of covering anywhere. But in the biggest bet game of the year they are 8-0 ATS. 4-0 as a dog. Either way that is a dominant streak in the biggest game for Vegas of the season. You claim those opponent weren't the right ones. I say that is idiotic and nitpicky.

[listen2me 23 1,541]

Not sure why I can't quote anymore. Haven't been here in months.

 

8-0 ATS vs. other conf in the biggest bet game of the year is telling. Go ahead and enlighten me with how they do ATS during the year vs. out of conf power conf teams. Are they below .500? SHow me.

 

You are right it has no bearing on THIS year. We are talking SEC bias and the myth that it mostly is. Try to keep up. For years SEC has proven it. Yet those results don't matter? How can a conf. win so dominantly vs. other conf. in the biggest game.....yet be overrated?

 

My point is talking about there is no bias. And again the SEC has probably 3 or 4 of the best 5 teams in the country.

[phillybear 364]

In the past decade, the SEC mostly played Sun Belt, WAC, and Div 1-AA teams out of conference, with a couple of regional games vs the ACC and Conf USA. I'd expect they would have a pretty good record against a steady stream of cream puffs. A lot of power conference teams do this, so I can't blame them for it. But it doesn't mean their schedule is any more difficult than any other conference.

 

But this is all opinion. That's all that college football is. Opinion. There is no proof. No national champion. No playoffs. You vote for title game. You vote for a winner. It's 100% politics and money.

[crackattack 513]

If Fla St would have lost at #25 Louisville, would Fla St have dropped out of the top 4? Thoughts?

[phillybear 364]

If Fla St would have lost at #25 Louisville, would Fla St have dropped out of the top 4? Thoughts?

 

Absolutely. Despite their quality wins over Oklahoma St, Clemson and Notre Dame, losing at Louisville knocks them out.

 

Although, I don't think they will finish off running this gauntlet of Louisville, Virginia, Miami Flor without a loss

 

Especially the Miami game, at Miami.

 

But if they win out, they have to be in. Also, they are not as good of a team as last year.

[crackattack 513]

 

Absolutely. Despite their quality wins over Oklahoma St, Clemson and Notre Dame, losing at Louisville knocks them out.

 

Although, I don't think they will finish off running this gauntlet of Louisville, Virginia, Miami Flor without a loss

 

Especially the Miami game, at Miami.

 

But if they win out, they have to be in. Also, they are not as good of a team as last year.

So why did Ol Miss stay in the top 4 after losing at #20 somthing LSU?

[phillybear 364]

So why did Ol Miss stay in the top 4 after losing at #20 somthing LSU?

 

Because the whole system is bullsh!t.

[crackattack 513]

 

Because the whole system is bullsh!t.

Agreed. Ole miss loses to a 2 loss, 20 something ranked LSU team and stays in top 4. They beat bama, lost to LSU, and beat a bad A@M team They have 1 and a half quality win, yet stay in the top 4. And people wonder why they think the system "favors" the sec.

[patweisers44 697]

Not sure why I can't quote anymore. Haven't been here in months.

there is a toggle switch looking thing on the top left of the posting screen, just above the "B" that you would use to bold text. try flipping that

[posty 2,296]

Because the whole system is bullsh!t.

Pretty much sums it up...

[Magnificent Bastard 190]

College sports shouldn't be this important. Just sayin

[Sho Nuff 719]

Not sure why I can't quote anymore. Haven't been here in months.

 

8-0 ATS vs. other conf in the biggest bet game of the year is telling. Go ahead and enlighten me with how they do ATS during the year vs. out of conf power conf teams. Are they below .500? SHow me.

 

You are right it has no bearing on THIS year. We are talking SEC bias and the myth that it mostly is. Try to keep up. For years SEC has proven it. Yet those results don't matter? How can a conf. win so dominantly vs. other conf. in the biggest game.....yet be overrated?

 

My point is talking about there is no bias. And again the SEC has probably 3 or 4 of the best 5 teams in the country.

 

 

I have kept up...if you don't think there is bias...why was South Carolina ranked so high to start the year?

Why after beating them did A&M jump so high up?

 

Both of those teams were not worthy of top 10 or top 5 rankings...but one moved up because the other started out completely overrated...and they were rated there why? Because they play in the SEC.

 

There is a huge voting bias to rank SEC teams higher right now...there is.

Sure, their recent history may have earned them the bias...but its there.

[listen2me 23 1,541]

That is why preseason polls are dumb. Who is to say who is who before they play?

 

There are more teams than SEC teams who were ranked high early and have fallen out, so not sure what you are getting at there.

 

LSU would be a top 3 team in the big 10 and ACC.

 

Go look where Standford and USC ranked. Pac 12 is sooooo awesome....lol. UCLA looks like ass. Barely getting by bad teams.

 

SEC bias backers love to sit and nipick the sec. But go look around. You could make the same exact claim in other conf.

 

Philly is right this is all opinion. Impossible to determine for sure with so many teams that dont play eachother. So i look to the results. SeC shows up in thr biggest games and beats other conf stud teams. 7-1 sole loss by 3 to fla st eho was a 10.5 favorite. You can sit and try and tell me oh so and so was ranked high early....blah blah blah. Yoj are cherry picking. Go to other conf and do the same. SeC beats other conf bests CONSISTANTLY. proof is in the pudding matter how much philly wants to say their opponents were all wrong and chicken wing tech should have been in those games.

 

Arizona beat #2 Ducks and all of a sudden they are 12th best team. Nevermind they lost to average usc at home the next week. Never mind they have countless close games with bad teams. Nevermind they won by 3 against UTSA. Yes i said UTSA. A 2-6 team out of conf usa. Or a 7 pt win over Nevada. Or a 4 pt win over Cal.

 

If Arizona was in SEC you guys would use them as an example. Beat a high ranked conf team who was overrated and it carried them to 12th on a meh resume otherwise. Now they play overrated UCLA and one elevates with a win. IMAGINE THAT.

[listen2me 23 1,541]

Sho nuffs most compelling argument is "There is a huge voting bias to rank SEC teams higher right now...there is.".....haha cant make it up. You guys have no basis for any of this.

 

Bama auburn miss st ol miss all trash everyone in the pac 12 besides Oregon. They all beat fla st right now. You know why? Because I said so. Lol. I love using that as evidence. Sec is better....it is.

[Sho Nuff 719]

Sho nuffs most compelling argument is "There is a huge voting bias to rank SEC teams higher right now...there is.".....haha cant make it up. You guys have no basis for any of this.

 

Bama auburn miss st ol miss all trash everyone in the pac 12 besides Oregon. They all beat fla st right now. You know why? Because I said so. Lol. I love using that as evidence. Sec is better....it is.

 

I gave you my basis...SC should never have been ranked that high...then immediately A&M jumped up with talk of how they were the best.

Can't help you if you can't see that.

And now, LSU wouldn't be any better in the BIG 10 against MSU and OSU...they barely got past a mediocre Wisconsin team who couldn't throw the ball.

You have no basis to claim that about Ole Miss, Miss State or Auburn right now. Even Bama.

 

There simply is no dominant team in college football right now.

Those teams are good teams...but all have flaws.

Claiming they would just beat all these others teams is laughable.

[listen2me 23 1,541]

8-0 vs the spread in bcs champ games vs other conf. 4-0 as dogs. 3-1 straight up by dogs. Best any other conf could produce in that time....a 3 pt win by uber fla st. 10.5 pt favs.

 

But the guy from Vegas wants everyone to bet the conf that has mopped up for years in the biggest bet game. Lol.

 

I hope final 4 is bama vs oregon and auburn vs fla st. As both sec teams win babies will still explain how SC was ranked high early and therefor none of the rest of the teams in the sec are that good. Cant wait for sec to dominate in this format as well. Willbe hilarious to watch all the trendy folk spin it worse than swamp dog. "Oh well ya see, the bottom of the sec isnt good. Well um pac 12 has nfl qbs, um arizona beat Oregon! Yahtzee!"

[listen2me 23 1,541]

Of course we know phillys excuse. Utah shojld be in there. Perhaps someone from the MAC is more worthy...ect ect

[jerryskids 5,190]

8-0 vs the spread in bcs champ games vs other conf. 4-0 as dogs. 3-1 straight up by dogs. Best any other conf could produce in that time....a 3 pt win by uber fla st. 10.5 pt favs.

 

But the guy from Vegas wants everyone to bet the conf that has mopped up for years in the biggest bet game. Lol.

 

I hope final 4 is bama vs oregon and auburn vs fla st. As both sec teams win babies will still explain how SC was ranked high early and therefor none of the rest of the teams in the sec are that good. Cant wait for sec to dominate in this format as well. Willbe hilarious to watch all the trendy folk spin it worse than swamp dog. "Oh well ya see, the bottom of the sec isnt good. Well um pac 12 has nfl qbs, um arizona beat Oregon! Yahtzee!"

I don't see the argument for letting multiple teams from the SEC West into the playoff. Only one even plays in their conference championship game. If Alabama, Auburn, Miss St, and Ole Miss are so much better than the other teams, then they should beat each other to determine the best, and then they can just coast their way through the playoffs.

[listen2me 23 1,541]

I don't see the argument for letting multiple teams from the SEC West into the playoff. Only one even plays in their conference championship game. If Alabama, Auburn, Miss St, and Ole Miss are so much better than the other teams, then they should beat each other to determine the best, and then they can just coast their way through the playoffs.

I dont disagree. But that isnt the format. If it was a format where all winners of conf met in a playoff then it would make sense. And I like that format. But that isnt the format.

 

It is the 4 best teams voted on. We dont know but i would bet in a simulation of tons of games of all the top 25...at least 2 of the sec teams would finish high enough for the top 4 spots.

 

Voters vote. They have sec teams in. Im just sick of the crying by anyone outside the sec on how unfair it is. Go beat sec teams 7 out of 8 times in the championship and perhaps the bias will be for your conf. SEC gets love because the prove it every year. People think this "bias" is from some mythical being. EsPn pulling strings? No. It is from results kicking other top teams all the time. If thr big 10 went on a run of knocking off the top sec team in the championship for a few years in a row....dont you think their conf would be elevated? And get bias? Or what i loke to call due credit for whooping other conf every year? There is no smoke and mirrors here. Not sure why people just dismiss what happens on the field.

 

As a side note: lets go check Nebraska's resume. Ranled 15th. They dont have a good win. They have beat terrrrrrrible teams.

 

SEC schools domonate the recruiting evwey year. They win all the time in champ games vs other conf. Why is it so hard to believe that they are the best conf hands down? I dont get it? It's hilarious that people act like having the best recruits means nothing. If much of the sec is rated veey high in recruiting classes every yesr...isnt it logic that they all may be very good?

[ZeroTolerance 582]

Well, South Carolina and A&M have been exposed. Today it was Georgia's turn.

[crackattack 513]

Well, South Carolina and A&M have been exposed. Today it was Georgia's turn.

Don't forget Mizzu. They were ranked when IU beat them.....at Mizzu.

[crackattack 513]

Oh. And Vandy sucks. Florida sucks. Tennessee sucks. Kentucky is average at best. LSU is just an above average team. So that leaves Alabama, Auburn and the two Mississippi teams.

[phillybear 364]

TCU.

[ZeroTolerance 582]

Oh. And Vandy sucks. Florida sucks. Tennessee sucks. Kentucky is average at best. LSU is just an above average team. So that leaves Alabama, Auburn and the two Mississippi teams.

 

The SEC has been the best at the top for a long time, no different this year. The middle always ends up greatly overrated riding the coattails.

[phillybear 364]

Oh. And Vandy sucks. Florida sucks. Tennessee sucks. Kentucky is average at best. LSU is just an above average team. So that leaves Alabama, Auburn and the two Mississippi teams.

 

Fock that. I housed Tennessee at (+7).

[jerryskids 5,190]

TCU.

They sucked. Kansas State is going to womp them next week.

[ZeroTolerance 582]

Miss St getting caught looking ahead to Tennessee-Martin.

[The Moz 69]

I dont disagree. But that isnt the format. If it was a format where all winners of conf met in a playoff then it would make sense. And I like that format. But that isnt the format.

 

It is the 4 best teams voted on. We dont know but i would bet in a simulation of tons of games of all the top 25...at least 2 of the sec teams would finish high enough for the top 4 spots.

 

Voters vote. They have sec teams in. Im just sick of the crying by anyone outside the sec on how unfair it is. Go beat sec teams 7 out of 8 times in the championship and perhaps the bias will be for your conf. SEC gets love because the prove it every year. People think this "bias" is from some mythical being. EsPn pulling strings? No. It is from results kicking other top teams all the time. If thr big 10 went on a run of knocking off the top sec team in the championship for a few years in a row....dont you think their conf would be elevated? And get bias? Or what i loke to call due credit for whooping other conf every year? There is no smoke and mirrors here. Not sure why people just dismiss what happens on the field.

 

As a side note: lets go check Nebraska's resume. Ranled 15th. They dont have a good win. They have beat terrrrrrrible teams.

 

SEC schools domonate the recruiting evwey year. They win all the time in champ games vs other conf. Why is it so hard to believe that they are the best conf hands down? I dont get it? It's hilarious that people act like having the best recruits means nothing. If much of the sec is rated veey high in recruiting classes every yesr...isnt it logic that they all may be very good?

Wasted time - noone wants to hear logic here

[ZeroTolerance 582]

At least Ole Miss is creative. Last week they had no offense, this week they have no defense.

 

And the definition of the phrase "adding insult to injury": Ole Miss player breaks his leg going for a TD AND the TD gets called back as a fumble to lose the game.

[frank 2,144]

War Eagle!!

[phillybear 364]

 

Fock that. I housed Tennessee at (+7).

 

Woot. Tennessee with the sweet win/cover.

[phillybear 364]

They sucked. Kansas State is going to womp them next week.

 

TCU's march to the NCAA title.....one game at a time.

 

edit: Plus, a berth in the NCAA title committee Final Four, unless some bullsh!t happens.

[jerryskids 5,190]

UCLA's uniforms are an embarrassment. I get that the slate gray look is the new hip thing. But the numbers and names in gold lame are unreadable.

[JT 137]

Sho nuffs most compelling argument is "There is a huge voting bias to rank SEC teams higher right now...there is.".....haha cant make it up. You guys have no basis for any of this.

 

Bama auburn miss st ol miss all trash everyone in the pac 12 besides Oregon. They all beat fla st right now. You know why? Because I said so. Lol. I love using that as evidence. Sec is better....it is.

 

And your most compelling argument is that when given a greased slide into the last game of the season, every season, vs a hand picked opponent, the conference with the biggest media support has won. Shocking.

[Sho Nuff 719]

Not a great weekend for the SEC.

Georgia gets waxed by a bad Florida team.

TN proves again what we already figured out this year...that South Carolina should not have sniffed the top 25 to start the year...much less a top 10 ranking.

Miss State is good...but not sure they are great or good enough to keep holding on...a close win vs. a mediocre Arkansas team.

Auburn can be very good...but not sure they have the defense either...Ole Miss...thanks for playing. Great defense for sure...but Auburn beat them up and now they are done for the most part.

 

Great weekend for Bama...sit back and watch Georgia and Ole Miss fall.

 

Still some great games left with the Iron Bowl...Egg Bowl...and a few others that will make for some fun TV.

But looking more like a 1 team from the SEC getting in.

Oregon/Arizona State...Michigan State/Ohio State...TCU/Kansas State. 2 of those teams may now get in. And FSU better not trip up either.

[posty 2,296]

TCU.

If WVU could have gotten at least one first down in the fourth quarter, I don't think TCU would have yanked that one out...

[edjr 5,556]

Typical of NCAA Division 1 Football.

 

They give us what we want in a playoff, yet they fock it up by only allowing 4 teams.

 

Won't help at all.

 

Focking failures.

[jerryskids 5,190]

Not a great weekend for the SEC.

Georgia gets waxed by a bad Florida team.

TN proves again what we already figured out this year...that South Carolina should not have sniffed the top 25 to start the year...much less a top 10 ranking.

Miss State is good...but not sure they are great or good enough to keep holding on...a close win vs. a mediocre Arkansas team.

Auburn can be very good...but not sure they have the defense either...Ole Miss...thanks for playing. Great defense for sure...but Auburn beat them up and now they are done for the most part.

 

Great weekend for Bama...sit back and watch Georgia and Ole Miss fall.

 

Still some great games left with the Iron Bowl...Egg Bowl...and a few others that will make for some fun TV.

But looking more like a 1 team from the SEC getting in.

Oregon/Arizona State...Michigan State/Ohio State...TCU/Kansas State. 2 of those teams may now get in. And FSU better not trip up either.

Arizona State plays ND in Tempe this weekend. If they win that game, then I think they'll be in the discussion. Of course they would still need to beat Arizona, then Oregon in the championship game.

[Sho Nuff 719]

Arizona State plays ND in Tempe this weekend. If they win that game, then I think they'll be in the discussion. Of course they would still need to beat Arizona, then Oregon in the championship game.

 

That is why I was putting them in there with oregon out of the Pac.

Should be a fun game with ND.