UDFA trackers

[Marshall 98]

Since open season on undrafted free agents began the moment that the draft ended (and most Seahawks' fans have learned to regard UDFAs as exciting prospects over the past few seasons), I'm linking the Seahawks' tracker here, for those who might be interested:

 

http://www.fieldgulls.com/2016/4/30/11545772/2016-nfl-undrafted-free-agent-tracker-seahawks-edition?utm_campaign=fieldgulls&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

 

Side note: Already noting a trend, with at least two more runningbacks being taken as UFDAs (!)

[Kopy 489]

You got any thoughts on Boykin? I don't believe I've ever watched a game of his.

[Marshall 98]

You got any thoughts on Boykin? I don't believe I've ever watched a game of his.

 

Not yet, although I'm scrambling to learn what I can now. (I've got to admit that I don't watch college football *ducks* )

 

All I have so far is a pre-draft link with some info, and a twitter follower of his who compares him to Michael Vick.

 

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/trevone-boykin?id=2555412

[Marshall 98]

For Raiders fans, here is a belated UFDA tracker:

 

http://www.csnbayarea.com/raiders/raiders-undrafted-rookie-tracker-wr-mccaffrey-signs

 

(An interesting aside about this draft - RaiderNation is, well, not exactly thrilled with the selection of QB Connor Cook. He seems to be doggedly determined not to try winning friends and influencing people. Maybe the rest of the team can humanize him. Time will tell, I guess.)

[nobody 2,031]

I like jhurell pressley to the Vikes and Peyton barber to tampa.

[Frozenbeernuts 1,652]

For Raiders fans, here is a belated UFDA tracker:

 

http://www.csnbayarea.com/raiders/raiders-undrafted-rookie-tracker-wr-mccaffrey-signs

 

(An interesting aside about this draft - RaiderNation is, well, not exactly thrilled with the selection of QB Connor Cook. He seems to be doggedly determined not to try winning friends and influencing people. Maybe the rest of the team can humanize him. Time will tell, I guess.)

One of the most useless picks in the draft. I think Cook is an absolute bum. If he cant lead college players then he cant lead NFL players. BUM

[nobody 2,031]

Giants signed marshaun coprich.

[R8RMick 242]

For Raiders fans, here is a belated UFDA tracker:

 

http://www.csnbayarea.com/raiders/raiders-undrafted-rookie-tracker-wr-mccaffrey-signs

 

(An interesting aside about this draft - RaiderNation is, well, not exactly thrilled with the selection of QB Connor Cook. He seems to be doggedly determined not to try winning friends and influencing people. Maybe the rest of the team can humanize him. Time will tell, I guess.)

 

Well I will emphatically disagree with your take, and point you towards the #1 Raider forum if you will. This is the preeminent discussion forum with the most knowledgeable Raider fans.

 

www.Raiderforums.com

 

If you peruse I'm sure you can find any number of threads on the subject. The gist of which is this-

 

Picking rookie QBs is in and of itself a friggin crapshoot. Teams can give up a fortune, as the Rams and Eagles did, and end up with busts. Or teams can give up a lowly fifth to potentially end up with the best QB in the class. And that is not a ridiculous statement at this point.

 

I watched Jack Conklin in pre-draft meetings with teams who were very high on the pro style offense they ran at MSU, how the blocking schemes and protections put Conklin ahead of his peers on the learning curve. It goes without saying at the very least the same principle could be applied to the QB who ran that offense.

 

Second, it was rumored this off-season that teams were offering Cincy very serious compensation for AJ McCarron. The rumors were unverifiable because the Bengals emphatically rejected all overtures, and wisely so given Dalton's injuries.

 

I can attest that Raider fans are MOST enthusiastically on board with the pick. For one, the kid is zero threat to our current quarterback as it is firmly Carr's team. Also, there is almost a maniacal faith in Reggie McKenzie. If Reg is ok with the kid, that's it as far as we're concerned.

 

If Connor pans out, best case is we bend some QB desperate team over a barrel in a couple years or even next. With the insane gold being thrown about, Cook could land us a king's ransom. For a focking fifth rounder! At the very least he's insurance in the event McLovin walks next year or God forbid we can't break the bank for Carr.

 

Oh no, Raider fans are FAR from disappointed with this pick. So he's an ahole? Ha ha ha who cares? This isn't a club for wayward young men, and our coaching staff are not guidance counselors. There's enough of that ridiculousness in the league as it is. This is a football team, it's becoming a damn good one actually, and in the end it's really just business.

[giraldi02 470]

Who's the last backup quarterback to be flipped for a net positive within four years who rarely (if ever) played?

 

I have zero qualms for drafting a backup QB, but to me this talk of trading him for anything more than the pick that they took him with is insanely illogical.

 

While a fifth rounder is no guarantee to provide an impact during his NFL tenure, I'd rather see a team that is on the cusp of contending in its division tackle depth elsewhere than the position they already have their franchise player in.

[Frozenbeernuts 1,652]

Who's the last backup quarterback to be flipped for a net positive within four years who rarely (if ever) played?

 

I have zero qualms for drafting a backup QB, but to me this talk of trading him for anything more than the pick that they took him with is insanely illogical.

 

While a fifth rounder is no guarantee to provide an impact during his NFL tenure, I'd rather see a team that is on the cusp of contending in its division tackle depth elsewhere than the position they already have their franchise player in.

Agreed. Plus Cook needs work. Its not like he is going to be able to step right in and be effective. Its going to take a while for him to become a solid pro, and thats if it ever happens.

[R8RMick 242]

Who's the last backup quarterback to be flipped for a net positive within four years who rarely (if ever) played?

 

I have zero qualms for drafting a backup QB, but to me this talk of trading him for anything more than the pick that they took him with is insanely illogical.

 

While a fifth rounder is no guarantee to provide an impact during his NFL tenure, I'd rather see a team that is on the cusp of contending in its division tackle depth elsewhere than the position they already have their franchise player in.

Maybe you're Right, and who am I to contend that. I'm only telling you what I feel is a Raider fan. There is some crazy s*** going on this year with quarterbacks, and may or may not continue in the future. All I know is Cincinnati could have gotten a very high pick for AJ McCarron if they had moved him this last offseason. My God man look at the freaking quarterbacks that are starting. Mark Sanchez Brock Osweiler are you kidding me?

 

Lastly it was probable that cook was the best player on Reggie's board at that point anyway. It's all academic.

 

Edit- Should be noted that RM came from the Green Bay school of thinking, where he was a top player personnel guy. It was a model used often, the drafting of young QBs and stockpiling them. Brunell, Brohm, Flynn, Aaron Brooks. It also allows them to let McLovin go next year and get a comp pick. Just a lot of options, for the mere cost of a fifth rounder. When many top scouting sites had him as the QB4 and a top 50 pick overall.

[The Football Guru 211]

Giants signed marshaun coprich.

Glad to see someone else liked this move. I'll probably see if I can make a trade to get this K.Dixon in my rookie draft, and I might try to snag Coprich in the final round.

 

Kid is a player, although any small-schooler who gets busted for selling marijuana to an undercover police officer is asking for a short NFL career.

[Ray_T 587]

One of the most useless picks in the draft. I think Cook is an absolute bum. If he cant lead college players then he cant lead NFL players. BUM

At this point (4th round) in the draft a lot of the players are going to have issues.

 

If you are drafting him and expecting him to be your starter, I'd back you up on this comment.

 

but the Raiders are drafting him to be a backup QB. He has flashed some talent. His biggest problem is he's not a huge leader.

 

Leadership is something that a player can acquire with some experience and time. Maybe he will eventually get there, maybe he wont. But as a backup QB, he has the time to grow into this. I think he will be an adequate to good backup QB. There is also a chance he could become a starting calibre quarterback in the future. That being said, even if he is a career backup who is decent in that role, it's not a waste of a pick.

 

For a 4th round pick of a QB they want to be a backup, I think they are getting fair value for this pick because that is exactly what they are most likely getting.