2015 College Football Playoff Thread

[KSB2424 3,082]

Welp, the "committee" comes out with their Top 4 tonight. I'm assuming Ohio State has to be there as does Clemson and LSU. That leaves Michigan State outside looking in for now and once again we have to figure out who is best between TCU and Baylor.

 

My guess is it will be:

 

1. Ohio St. (even though they have struggled a bit)

2. LSU

3. Clemson

4. Baylor

[posty 2,296]

Hopefully there won't be a SEC team in there at the end and if there has to be one, please not LSU...

[Mungwater 588]

i just hope there are no SEC teams in there too, ESPN would be all over themselves and we'd see an eight team playoff

[Mungwater 588]

http://www.si.com/college-football/2015/11/03/ncaa-playoff-rankings-ohio-state-clemson-lsu-alabama

 

What a crock of , Alabama doesn't need to be there. They aren't even the lead in their division.

 

Can't really argue with the other three though

[ZeroTolerance 582]

Alabama, lol. Home loss to a two-loss Ole Miss team that couldn't beat Memphis and got raped blind by Florida. Best win vs Texas A&M (who has beaten...um...Miss St?), barely survived Tennessee and Arkansas at home. Meanwhile, that same Florida team that raped Ole Miss and only lost to unbeaten LSU...is 10th?

[Djgb13 2,338]

Jesus Christ. They just HAVE to have an SEC team in there no matter what. What a crock of sh1t

[Mungwater 588]

Alabama, lol. Home loss to a two-loss Ole Miss team that couldn't beat Memphis and got raped blind by Florida. Best win vs Texas A&M (who has beaten...um...Miss St?), barely survived Tennessee and Arkansas at home. Meanwhile, that same Florida team that raped Ole Miss and only lost to unbeaten LSU...is 10th?

I do have Alabama friend who is defending it. He said their biggest win was Georgia who was 4-0 when they played. Never mind that four was Louisiana Monroe, vandy, South Carolina, and southern.

 

And I'm a A&M season ticket holder, they were very over ranked when Alabama played them, and he can't understand that.

 

I just hate the SEC bias that it makes me sick. College football is fun to watch on Saturdays, but their post season is the absolute worst.

 

Remember last year when they had three SEC teams in the initial final? See where that got them?

[BunnysBastatrds 1,913]

Hopefully there won't be a SEC team in there at the end and if there has to be one, please not LSU...

Besides LSU fans being some of the worst, EVER, why? This years team is coming together at the right time.

[Mungwater 588]

Besides LSU fans being some of the worst, EVER, why? This years team is coming together at the right time.

You know that media bias everyone complains about? There is definitely one toward SEC schools, and it's getting really old

[TimmySmith 2,782]

This second, Bama deserves over any of those teams IMO. Baylor and TCU are the ones getting hosed, again.

 

The reality is that Baylor AND TCU won't both wind up undefeated, so the winner there (if undefeated) will get a berth. LSU and Alabama will play this weekend and the loser will hold no claim to anything. I think LSU wins easily. Michigan State plays OSU in 2 weeks and the loser there holds no claim.

 

Miles to go.

[RLLD 3,455]

LOL, gotta love the angst over a rigged system.

[posty 2,296]

Besides LSU fans being some of the worst, EVER, why? This years team is coming together at the right time.

Mainly because of the fans and especially what Mung said...

[RLLD 3,455]

Besides LSU fans being some of the worst, EVER, why? This years team is coming together at the right time.

 

I assure you, nothing is worse than a VaTech fan, except perhaps a WVU fan, at least LSU fans have some reason to be asses.....

[posty 2,296]

I assure you, nothing is worse than a VaTech fan, except perhaps a WVU fan, at least LSU fans have some reason to be asses.....

A lot of WVU fans are Steelers fans... That explains why most of them are asses...

[frank 2,144]

No group of people on Earth can match lsu fans for sheer drunkeness and general jackassery.

 

alabama fans are the most arrogant. I guarantee you 95% of them think they should be number 1 right now.

[KSB2424 3,082]

This second, Bama deserves over any of those teams IMO. Baylor and TCU are the ones getting hosed, again.

 

The reality is that Baylor AND TCU won't both wind up undefeated, so the winner there (if undefeated) will get a berth. LSU and Alabama will play this weekend and the loser will hold no claim to anything. I think LSU wins easily. Michigan State plays OSU in 2 weeks and the loser there holds no claim.

 

Miles to go.

 

Today's rankings mean little, as you said because its so early and alot of these teams will play each other. TCU-Baylor or MSU-OSU or Bama-LSU so it should shake out better.

 

The only thing that irks me is the SEC bias. If the season ended today I have a hard time, in any system putting a one loss team over an undefeated Big 5 team like Baylor. That just reeks to me.

 

Like you said, hopefully it all works out but the SEC bias is still on display. They don't call it a bias though....the code word is "eye test". Just like last years "eye test" had Alabama number one but they got their ass beat by Ohio St. The eye test can go pound sand. Results on the football field (Wins and Losses) should matter the most.

[Magnificent Bastard 190]

Send a volly cheer on high, shake down the thunder from the sky.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

The only thing that irks me is the SEC bias. If the season ended today I have a hard time, in any system putting a one loss team over an undefeated Big 5 team like Baylor. That just reeks to me.

 

It's not so much an SEC bias, it's an Alabama, LSU bias. Ole Miss and Florida control their path to the SEC title game and neither gets a mention.

[BunnysBastatrds 1,913]

You know that media bias everyone complains about? There is definitely one toward SEC schools, and it's getting really old

 

How do you think Baylor and TCU would fare if they played in the SEC. I agree there is a bias but there is also a reality that two to three teams from the SEC belong in the mix.

 

 

Mainly because of the fans and especially what Mung said...

 

 

 

No group of people on Earth can match lsu fans for sheer drunkeness and general jackassery.

 

alabama fans are the most arrogant. I guarantee you 95% of them think they should be number 1 right now.

 

 

 

I'm an LSU fan. But I don't bleed purple and gold. And I agree that their fans are the worst and the drunkest. Three national championships in fifty years and they act like they have ten. I've almost gotten into fights as recent as last year for daring to say that in a bar on game day.

 

A guy that works for me is alum and he agrees that they are the worst. But if you ever get the chance to tail gate at Death Valley before a game, whether you're an LSU fan or the opposing teams fan, it's quite the experience. Before the game it's all fun. It's after the game when some show their true colors.

 

Here's a fun story about the time LSU played USC at home in the late 70's.

 

http://www.nola.com/lsu/index.ssf/2009/09/players_and_fans_cant_forget_t.html

 

Just a part of the story.........

 

EARLY SHOWDOWN

It was the third game of the season, but with that sort of roster it was understandable some national writers were calling USC the best college team ever.

The Trojans were 3-0, the undisputed No. 1 team in the nation.

LSU was unranked and removed from the game's top rungs. Although LSU was 2-0 and had demolished its first two opponents, Colorado and Rice, by a combined score of 91-3, Greg LaFleur, a split end then who now is the athletic director at Southern, remembered the pregame sense it was a mismatch.

"They were so good, they had been good for so long, " he said of the storied Trojans. "We were not that good. We were a good program but not a great program. We never beat Alabama. We never had an upset."

Hokie Gajan, like LaFleur a junior on the 1979 Tigers, concurred in part. The fact LSU played Alabama every year meant the Tigers were accustomed to playing the game's premier programs, Gajan said, but there was something exotic about a USC team that had played in so many Rose Bowls and had won several national championships.

Plus, there was the general feeling the game would be, as in fact it has remained thus far, a once-in-a-lifetime matchup at Tiger Stadium.

"I suppose I felt, and I think most of us felt, a little bit intimidated by Southern Cal, " Gajan recalled.

As one might expect, however, that feeling did not extend to the Tigers faithful. From the moment USC arrived LSU fans embarked on a serious heckling mission. That was a quieter time in sports without the huge audiences created by television and computers, and the Trojans were astonished when authorities accompanied them to Tiger Stadium for a Friday evening walk-through.

"We had to have a police escort, " McDonald said. "That to me was amazing. There must have been 5,000 people out there -- crazy, local fans -- and it was shocking to see so many fans jacked up for the game."

Every Southern Cal player interviewed for this story remembered that moment. It was unlike any they had ever experienced, they said, even after the fans were cordoned back and the Trojans finally filed off the buses and into the stadium.

"There was a guy yelling right in my face and carrying a full fifth of liquor in his hand, " Lott said. "I couldn't believe it. That was a first for me. Not just a glass now -- I'd seen that -- but a full fifth bottle."

Former USC Coach John Robinson, now retired in Arizona, did his best to downplay the scene.

"Well, at first they wouldn't let us off the bus, " he conceded. "But most of the guys who play for SC tend to be a pretty confident bunch generally, and they were laughing. Although you definitely knew you were in a hostile environment."

The passionate greeting did not end at the stadium gates. Later that night, USC followed the pregame ritual of attending a movie and Budde -- whose description of Tiger Stadium, "It makes Notre Dame look like Romper Room, " now hangs on a banner in LSU's football trophy hall -- said the trip started to seem like a haunting.

"It was as if they knew every move we were going to make, " he said. "Everywhere we went there were these throngs of people. Now, I grew up in Michigan, so I knew about this football-is-life mentality, but a lot of guys on the team were from the West Coast where the fans tend to be more relaxed and to them this was a bit scary.

"When we were leaving the movie theater you could hear this rhythmic chant. We sort of went out the theater through this tunnel, and there was light at the end as you came out of the darkness and then you were suddenly surrounded by hundreds of people chanting, 'Tiger bait! Tiger bait!' "

Today, Budde said he chuckles at the memories, but at the time "that was a wake-up call for us."

[KSB2424 3,082]

 

How do you think Baylor and TCU would fare if they played in the SEC.

 

I get so sick of this statement.

 

Texas A&M did well. Missou did really well when they had a good team. The SEC didn't exactly go undefeated in the bowls last year now did they? Sheesh.

[Cruzer 1,992]

I'm a Big 12 fan - but until they get a Conference Championship game, or until Baylor & TCU stop scheduling poosays in non-conference, they kind of deserve what they get.

 

I can't stand Alabama - but they had the balls to kick the season off with Wisconsin... Baylor's non-conference schedule consists of SMU, Lamar and Rice. TCU isn't much better, but at least they played Minnesota on the road.

[BunnysBastatrds 1,913]

 

I get so sick of this statement.

 

Texas A&M did well. Missou did really well when they had a good team. The SEC didn't exactly go undefeated in the bowls last year now did they? Sheesh.

 

It was meant to be a question. I forgot the question mark.

 

And yes, the SEC did suck in bowls last year. I was happy to see Alabama get stomped.

[Mungwater 588]

 

It was meant to be a question. I forgot the question mark.

 

And no, the SEC did suck in bowls last year. I was happy to see Alabama get stomped.

They would be fine in the SEC.

 

The SEC is overrated every year and it's getting old.

 

What actually needs to happen is eliminate the preseason rankings, that's what screws everything up.

[BunnysBastatrds 1,913]

They would be fine in the SEC.

 

The SEC is overrated every year and it's getting old.

 

What actually needs to happen is eliminate the preseason rankings, that's what screws everything up.

 

I agree with eliminating preseason rankings. I wouldn't mind if they waited till week four. Most ranked teams don't start playing conference games till then.

[ZeroTolerance 582]

The preseason rankings are an abortion of logic. Teams get ranked based on a combination of how they finished last year/how some writers or coaches who spent 5 minutes doing their homework think they might finish this year/name brand. By the time a team with a high preseason ranking is exposed as garbage (South Carolina, Georgia, Oregon, USC, etc), they have already impacted the polls for the rest of the year by giving other schools a "top ten win". Since teams are almost NEVER dropped in the polls until they lose, a "quality" win early in the season that turns out to be just a win over a mediocre team maintains it's impact throughout the season.

[Sho Nuff 719]

First off...last years first poll was meaningless too.

 

And Baylor does not deserve it.

Sorry, you can't play one of the worst schedules in football and expect people to respect your team. When you play in a crappy conference, you don't get to schedule SMU, Rice, and Lamar....as Cruzer also said.

[BuckeyeZ 2]

They would be fine in the SEC.

The SEC is overrated every year and it's getting old.

What actually needs to happen is eliminate the preseason rankings, that's what screws everything up.

What needs to happens is change it to 8 teams. They will eventually do it. Why wait?

[BunnysBastatrds 1,913]

They would be fine in the SEC.

 

The SEC is overrated every year and it's getting old.

 

What actually needs to happen is eliminate the preseason rankings, that's what screws everything up.

Then schedule and coordinate SEC teams and battle them on the field and stop the whining.

 

There are five or six teams that can do it. And they don't. Then they accuse the SEC for bias. The SEC isn't the gauntlet it was in the past. But they are pretty damn good. Just ask Vegas.

[cbfalcon 824]

As a Big 12 guy, I'm not too worried about it. This next month has TCU, Baylor, and Ok St each playing the other. OU has Baylor and OSU as well I think. If anyone gets through it undefeated, they'll be in.

 

That said, the way people treat the SEC is ridiculous. Basically, they start the season ranked as the best 14 teams in the country. So then any win in the conference is labeled high quality, as it was against a top 14 team. Any loss is forgiven, as it was against a top 14 team. And the team you lost to only has quality losses, so they stay legit, and so on. The only thing I can't figure out is if the people running things truly believe it, or if they are being paid off somehow. It's insane.

[Mungwater 588]

Then schedule and coordinate SEC teams and battle them on the field and stop the whining.

 

There are five or six teams that can do it. And they don't. Then they accuse the SEC for bias. The SEC isn't the gauntlet it was in the past. But they are pretty damn good. Just ask Vegas.

Vegas is a bad example to judge any sport, they adjust lines according to the money coming in.

 

Right now most books have the Cubs to be the favorite for the World Series next year.

[Mungwater 588]

Then schedule and coordinate SEC teams and battle them on the field and stop the whining.

 

There are five or six teams that can do it. And they don't. Then they accuse the SEC for bias. The SEC isn't the gauntlet it was in the past. But they are pretty damn good. Just ask Vegas.

Also, no SEC team schedules a decent team out of conference, who would play those juggernauts Lamar and Louisiana Monroe?

[Vince44 202]

I really could see the Big 12 not getting into the Final Top 4 for the second straight year. The only hope they have is if Baylor, or TCU, or OKST remains undefeated by the end of the season. OKST has TCU, Baylor, and OU all at home. TCU has Baylor at home but OKST/OU on the road. Baylor has OU at home but TCU/OKST on the road. I just can't see any of three winning out and will get at least one loss but Baylor had the best chance till they lost their QB for the season. I suppose there is a slim chance that one loss OU could defeat TCU at home and Baylor/OKST on the road but they would have to be very very convincing wins to erase the fact they have the worst loss out of the four when they got beaten by a Texas team that is currently 3-5.

[Sho Nuff 719]

Also, no SEC team schedules a decent team out of conference, who would play those juggernauts Lamar and Louisiana Monroe?

Baylor?

[cbfalcon 824]

Also, no SEC team schedules a decent team out of conference, who would play those juggernauts Lamar and Louisiana Monroe?

It's not on LSU to schedule anyone like TCU, because they are in the mighty SEC. So they are fine scheduling non conference games with McNeese St, Eastern Michigan, and Western Kentucky. And if they only lose once, they should make the playoffs.

 

However it is on TCU to schedule LSU. Because TCU's may have beaten a Big 10 bowl team in non conference, but their other non conference game wasn't against a good team. So if TCU goes undefeated, they've got a 50/50 shot of getting in.

 

[Sho Nuff 719]

How many yards would Fournette run for on Baylor?

 

And sorry, TCU gets zero credit for scheduling Minnesota. They are average at best.

[ZeroTolerance 582]

Farewell TCU. Big XII sweat time. After this molesting they will need to change their name to Texas Catholic University.

[ZeroTolerance 582]

Clemson escapes FSU and has a fairly clear path to the playoff. Alabama's "quality" loss just lost their third game (at home to Arkansas no less), with games vs LSU and at Miss St still to go.

[Djgb13 2,338]

Clemson escapes FSU and has a fairly clear path to the playoff. Alabama's "quality" loss just lost their third game (at home to Arkansas no less), with games vs LSU and at Miss St still to go.

Glad Clemson got the win. Hopefully Bama will lose

[Magnificent Bastard 190]

Shake down the thunder.

[cbfalcon 824]

Obviously a bad day for TCU....but at least it's a loss to an undefeated high quality team. Much better than losing to a 3 loss Ole Miss team.