FYI about Bishop Sankey

[djprotege 0]

Just heard the Tenn coach saying Shonn Greene is #1 and way ahead, and Sankey is #3. Right now atleast. But good to know

[tanatastic 2,061]

Typical camp speak. I remember when Chester Taylor was atop the depth chart with Adrian Peterson behind him. Allowed him to fall into my hands in the 4th round that year. Also why would a coach tip their hand to the whole league? Why not make coaches gameplan against Shonn greene rather than their rookie who only they know his strengths and gametape. Depth charts are among the most useless things in all of football.

[PackYourNut 47]

LOL... Now that is some coach speak...

[djprotege 0]

Typical camp speak. I remember when Chester Taylor was atop the depth chart with Adrian Peterson behind him. Allowed him to fall into my hands in the 4th round that year. Also why would a coach tip their hand to the whole league? Why not make coaches gameplan against Shonn greene rather than their rookie who only they know his strengths and gametape. Depth charts are among the most useless things in all of football.

 

I guess I would disagree. Why give someone else more snaps if you are going to go with a said #3 once season starts, that doesn't make sense.

[kolp 9]

Been at Titans camp. Greene getting all the 1st team love. Sad

[PackYourNut 47]

 

I guess I would disagree. Why give someone else more snaps if you are going to go with a said #3 once season starts, that doesn't make sense.

 

Motivation!

[Djgb13 2,338]

Sankey will eventually take over. But if they have a veteran RB who is still serviceable then they will start him early in the season and ease sankey into the mix. Sankey is the future and Greene is not. Look for Greene to be a decent rb3 until midsesason when sankey starts taking over

[Kent 228]

Good, I hope his stock drops so I can get steal him. Sankey is so much more talented than Greene. And he has what Greene doesn't; explosion. This is really good news actually and I hope it's the talk of preseason.

[weepaws 2,452]

I think we have seen Greene . And that's enough for me . Sankey will be the starter

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

Mccluster has been getting a lot of carries too.

[Frozenbeernuts 1,652]

Green is so unbelievably slow. Their irst pre season game hasnt even been played yet so it really means nothing. If they go with greene to start the season it doesnt really matted either, because fans will crucify the team when its 2 yards and a cloud of dust every time he touches the ball.

[MicktheGreat 1]

For what it's worth, Sankey missed most/all of OTAs because of his University of Washington school schedule. (UW is on the "quarter-system," which means that Spring quarter goes later in the year than your typical Spring semester.) Anyway...because of that, Sankey has had less practice time with the team than the vets and the other rookies on the roster. This sort of school schedule stuff comes up from time to time, mostly with players from Big 10 and Pac 12 teams, if I'm remembering correctly, as I think they're the conferences that are on the quarter system (at least with some of the schools).

 

When all is said and done, I'd be absolutely shocked if Sankey doesn't end up with the lion's share of carries by Week 3 or so. I do think that they'll ease him in a little bit. I also think that Greene will get more carries this year than last year, if he's healthy; and McCluster will also get some touches. But Sankey is ultimately the RB that I'd want to own here.

[snatchit 108]

Greene had some good years in the past. What it's gonna come down to is who can hold on to the ball and pass protect .. I am sure with all their past QB injurys, that is a huge deal to the orginanizatiom

[Kris-styles 0]

This is some good analysis but I want to know about their O line. Has it improved any? CJ1K had a terrible ypc (granted a lot on him) but that line was god awful.

[WooFantasyFootball 0]

I really don't know much about Titans oline, they talk them up though.

[PackYourNut 47]

Mccluster has been getting a lot of carries too.

 

Shhhhh!

[FantasyRich 1]

titans have one of the best o lines in football right now

[Upper Class Trash 67]

News Articles > Bishop Sankey Published Wed Aug 6 7:32:50 p.m. ET 2014

(RotoWire)Sankey is listed as the No. 3 running back on the Titans' initial depth chart in advance of Saturday's preseason opener against Green Bay, The Tennessean reports.

Analysis: Sankey is behind both Shonn Greene and Dexter McCluster, with Jim Wyatt of The Tennessean relaying that coach Ken Whisenhunt referenced seniority as the primary factor in the order. We wouldn't read too much into the depth chart as it stands, as Sankey, the first running back selected in the 2014 NFL draft, still has the most fantasy potential of any back in Tennessee

 

He is only listed there for seniority reasons. If you think Sankey is truly behind Greene and McCluster, draft the other guys. I, for one, will be happy to see his ADP fall so I can get him even later. Nobody is projecting him to a RB1 and most only as a potential low-end RB2. I've been able to get him as my RB3 in my redrafts and I hope this latest piece of worthless news pushes him to RB4 status.

[Spec7ral 6]

Slob players on a slob team.

[Flgatorguy87 160]

titans have one of the best o lines in football right now

That statement should be followed up with .....on paper

[TheUsualSuspect 207]

 

Shhhhh!

Yeah man, because McCluster matters.

[Upper Class Trash 67]

Yeah man, because McCluster matters.

Exactly. I love the "sleeper" picks around here this time of year. McCluster couldn't stay healthy in KC. If he is being targeted by you as your flex player, or as anything more than an a complete shot in the dark, you are in for a long season. He's not the white devil. That guy is still in San Diego. Dexter is 5'8 and 170lbs. The ESPN blog for the Titans stated he isn't 170lbs unless you are adding in his pads and helmet. He is TINY. Danny Woodhead is 5'8 and 200lbs and looks every bit of it. Size matters. How many RB's can you name that have been successful, even as a third down back, that weighed under 170? Darren Sproles is almost 200lbs and only 5'6. Kevin Faulk was 5'8 and 202lbs. His ADP has risen considerably and he's no longer a 'late round flier'. If you want him on your team, you are going to draft him in the 14th, or possibly even the 13th now that this article is out. You really want him on your team bad enough to do that? If so, you qualify for the insanity program. He went at the 14.08 of my last redraft. Too high considering he isn't going to be a starter if both Greene and Sankey go down.

[djprotege 0]

Thanks for shedding some light onto this situtation. I will probably be hesitant to draft any of the Tenn RB's but Snakeys upside is huge. He is definatley the best RB on the team, but I just need to see him get more carries. Sucks, cause I have one of my drafts today I would grab him late

[Matt Mueller 146]

Is S. Greene getting drafted in your mocks?

 

He's becoming more attractive as a last pick what the heck RB to me.

[lesjroza 70]

Is S. Greene getting drafted in your mocks?

 

He's becoming more attractive as a last pick what the heck RB to me.

 

I was able to take him in MFL 10 with a pick in the last couple of rounds a few times. The key to his value might actually be McCluster more than Sankey. Having watched Sankey a lot at UW I felt he was almost certain to be replaced in short ydg GL this year and I think it may always be the case. I would expect Ten to take a "big back of the future" next yr.

I also though it was very likely Sankey would be replaced in obvious passing situations because while he is a good receiver pass blocking is the hardest part for 99% of rookie RBs. So I felt Greene had at least GL and 3rd down RB roles locked as well as potentially a series or 2 to himself and probably grind it out in the 4th Quarter keep the lead as well.

If McCluster can hold up in protection he would make all 3 RBs iffy redraft choices. Sankey has been criminally over drafted IMO.

[Kent 228]

I was able to take him in MFL 10 with a pick in the last couple of rounds a few times. The key to his value might actually be McCluster more than Sankey. Having watched Sankey a lot at UW I felt he was almost certain to be replaced in short ydg GL this year and I think it may always be the case. I would expect Ten to take a "big back of the future" next yr.

I also though it was very likely Sankey would be replaced in obvious passing situations because while he is a good receiver pass blocking is the hardest part for 99% of rookie RBs. So I felt Greene had at least GL and 3rd down RB roles locked as well as potentially a series or 2 to himself and probably grind it out in the 4th Quarter keep the lead as well.

If McCluster can hold up in protection he would make all 3 RBs iffy redraft choices. Sankey has been criminally over drafted IMO.

Sankey looks the part of a GL back. And didn't he put up big time strength numbers at the combine? He's not small.

 

Edit: he put up the second best bench press numbers at the combine. He's 5'9 and weighs 210. The guy is a tank.

[lesjroza 70]

Sankey looks the part of a GL back. And didn't he put up big time strength numbers at the combine? He's not small.

 

In college he regularly went down on 1st contact. He is far from a pile driver. I like him but he has showed as more of a jack of all trades, master of none IMO.

[Kent 228]

In college he regularly went down on 1st contact. He is far from a pile driver. I like him but he has showed as more of a jack of all trades, master of none IMO.

That's a good thing because the other RBs on that team are bad. Since he can do it all he could have a good year and be the bell cow.

[lesjroza 70]

That's a good thing because the other RBs on that team are bad. Since he can do it all he could have a good year and be the bell cow.

 

Its wonderful to have those players on your NFL team. Versatility is a valuable attribute for players on your roster over the course of an NFL season due to injuries and limited roster spots. Having players who can fit multiple tasks means you may feel better about keeping 1 less RB and 1 more DL for instance. Its also helpful over the course of a players career because its mold ability even in the case of system/coaching changes.

It does not however mean that you will choose to use that player when there is another on the roster, healthy that can do a better job of executing that single task. Additionally, there is a secular movement toward division of labor at the RB position, its the way of the NFL world now unless there is a true elite player that you can't take off the field. I did not see that in Sankey at the college level nor in his combine numbers. I was VERY surprised he was the 1st RB taken as he was not mentioned often in draftniks top 5 pre-NFL draft. As I said I liked him, and he was on my pre-NFL draft sleeper list, I thought I would be snagging him in the middle of the 2nd round of rookie drafts as a player who could develop into something eventually.

[Fantasy Fiend 38]

Didn't see the extent of the Greene injury tonight but depending upon the outcome Sankey's ADP is gonna jump significantly.

[Breesman32 11]

Greene also fumbled but this was the saints defense here. Sankey fwiw is not given a chance so far against first stringers. They didn't start him until the third q tonight. I can see some players not wanting to play hard through that. He probably also was with third string OL as well.

[tanatastic 2,061]

Something isn't sitting right for me with Sankey. It's not his play but rather their use of him. I just don't get the sense that they want him to be their guy. With rookies like Doug Martin and Lacy, I knew that their teams wanted to lean on them. With Sankey I feel that a few carries with the third string is just not what you give a guy who is supposed to be the rookie in the best situation this year. I donno, it could be smoke and mirrors but something just isn't sitting right.

[Upper Class Trash 67]

What do you mean about Martin and Lacy? lol Martin, in his rookie season, only carried the ball 7 times in each of the first two preseason games, then didn't play in the final preseason game. The first two games he play with the starters. He averaged a whopping 3.0 and 3.3 ypc. Then, he received 24 carries in week one. It isn't like Martin did jack in the preseason, so not sure why you are comparing the two.

 

And Lacy.... He didn't play in the first preseason game last year. LOL His second game he ran 8 times for 40 yards. Then, games 3 and 4 happened.... He ran 8 times for MINUS five yards in game three and had two attempts for a whopping ONE yard in his 4th game.

 

So, considering Sankey is getting more carries than either of the two players you mentioned, what exactly is the issue with Sankey? Lacy and Martin were both incredible in their rookie seasons based on their relative ADP. Sankey is going lower than either of those guys did. Prior to my Labor Day Draft last year, Lacy was going in the late 3rd round. I'm getting Sankey in the 5th right now as a RB3/RB4. He's not being drafted anywhere as more than a RB3, so how can you knock that? Your RB3/RB4 should be a guy with upside. There is definitely upside here. Shonn is what he is. He'll get only the yards available to him through an opening and nothing more. No agility, no movement, just a put your head down and run type of guy. We see this every single year in the NFL. VERY few rookie RB's come in and handle a big workload in preseason. I just looked up the recent numbers on NFL.COM. Even the top rookie RB's over the last decade have not run with the first team in the preseason. Of course there have been a few, but by and large, they have run with the 2nd stringers, or a mixture of the two.

 

Sankey isn't going to be a RB1 in 2014. Nobody I've seen thinks that. I've yet to see anyone claim he will be a RB2. I have, myself, said he can climb into RB2 territory this season, but am not touching him as my RB2. Just wayyyyy too much value to pass on as a RB3/RB4. Shonn has chronic knee injuries and McCluster plays a totally different role in the offense. Even if Green gets the carries early, do you think they are going to keep feeding him the ball when Sankey runs circles around him? We all know what Shonn is. He's LenDale White with a different name.

[Spec7ral 6]

After a successful 2012 preseason with the Buccaneers, where he rushed for 97 yards on 27 carries to go with 2 rushing touchdowns, Martin was officially named as the starting running back entering the 2012 regular season by coach Greg Schiano.

 

That's a lot better than what sankey is up to. And no starters play in the last preseason game so that would have been a good thing, not bad. I, my with tana, I think it's time to temper expectations, especially if they don't slide him up in the rotation after greene goes out with injury last night. I'm staying away.

[Frozenbeernuts 1,652]

After a successful 2012 preseason with the Buccaneers, where he rushed for 97 yards on 27 carries to go with 2 rushing touchdowns, Martin was officially named as the starting running back entering the 2012 regular season by coach Greg Schiano.

 

That's a lot better than what sankey is up to. And no starters play in the last preseason game so that would have been a good thing, not bad. I, my with tana, I think it's time to temper expectations, especially if they don't slide him up in the rotation after greene goes out with injury last night. I'm staying away.

I just dont think they have a choice unless they sign a guy off the street.

[Flgatorguy87 160]

Greene says it was a hyper extension and "nothing at all" when asked about his knee today.

[lesjroza 70]

 

 

Sankey isn't going to be a RB1 in 2014. Nobody I've seen thinks that. I've yet to see anyone claim he will be a RB2. I have, myself, said he can climb into RB2 territory this season, but am not touching him as my RB2. Just wayyyyy too much value to pass on as a RB3/RB4.

 

Sankey is starting to fall a bit in drafts as guys cool a little but he is still going at 5.01 in PPR according to FF calculator over the last month. Many are taking him mid-late 4th obviously with that ADP and that is definitely RB2 territory for most.

 

When I comment on a players outlook I try to make it relative to the players ADP. Despite the fact that I have said I am warm to cool on Sankey he would clearly be a nice upside play that could be a big win under certain circumstances as "your RB4" but I haven't seen that happening at all. He had been going regularly in the 4th and even late 3rd, including in some early "expert" drafts right after the NFL draft.

 

I may be right with you actually if you are saying Sankey is a nice value as your RB4 in round 8? It seems either of us would be unlikely to get him there though. What round are you taking him in UCT?

[JtmoneyJag 25]

 

 

Sankey is starting to fall a bit in drafts as guys cool a little but he is still going at 5.01 in PPR according to FF calculator over the last month. Many are taking him mid-late 4th obviously with that ADP and that is definitely RB2 territory for most.

 

When I comment on a players outlook I try to make it relative to the players ADP. Despite the fact that I have said I am warm to cool on Sankey he would clearly be a nice upside play that could be a big win under certain circumstances as "your RB4" but I haven't seen that happening at all. He had been going regularly in the 4th and even late 3rd, including in some early "expert" drafts right after the NFL draft.

 

I may be right with you actually if you are saying Sankey is a nice value as your RB4 in round 8? It seems either of us would be unlikely to get him there though. What round are you taking him in UCT?

 

 

It is crazy to think he is going that high in my opinion. For someone with that much risk, I would want to get value out of that. You can get Roddy White, Larry Fitgerald, Michael Crabtree, Cordarrelle Patterson,... hell I think Ray Rice is much less risky and his ADP in mocks is 5th round. Thoughts???

[lesjroza 70]

   

 

It is crazy to think he is going that high in my opinion. For someone with that much risk, I would want to get value out of that. You can get Roddy White, Larry Fitgerald, Michael Crabtree, Cordarrelle Patterson,... hell I think Ray Rice is much less risky and his ADP in mocks is 5th round. Thoughts???

 

Well that's where I was coming from with my comments regarding his outlook this year, but saying you would take him as your RB 4 is not really going very far out on a limb so I wanted to make clear my comments were relative to his ADP as I have seen it in drafts.

[tanatastic 2,061]

What do you mean about Martin and Lacy? lol Martin, in his rookie season, only carried the ball 7 times in each of the first two preseason games, then didn't play in the final preseason game. The first two games he play with the starters. He averaged a whopping 3.0 and 3.3 ypc. Then, he received 24 carries in week one. It isn't like Martin did jack in the preseason, so not sure why you are comparing the two.

 

And Lacy.... He didn't play in the first preseason game last year. LOL His second game he ran 8 times for 40 yards. Then, games 3 and 4 happened.... He ran 8 times for MINUS five yards in game three and had two attempts for a whopping ONE yard in his 4th game.

 

 

That's my bad for not expressing myself clearly. I did not mean that the carries in preseason alone were the basis for my concern. What I meant by Martin and Lacy was that I got a sense from how the team talked about them that they were gonna lean on them as their main guy. It was just a known thing that Martin was going to be their new rookie rb1. With Lacy we did have a bit of the franklin talk but by mid august I knew that Lacy was going to carry the load. In sankeys case I just get a hesitant feeling from the coaches. Sure that's probably strategy, why tell the world who they plan on carrying the load, I get that and hope that is the case.

 

You said in this post that no one expects Sankey to be an rb1. Well that's true but Every year there is a rookie rb that ends as an rb1 and it's usually the guys with the opportunity like Lacy, Martin, Alfred etc. I kind of expected Sankey to be that guy. I guess he still could. I think what I'm trying to say is that I only really like rbs that have rb1 potential. I even want my rb3 to hopefully play like an rb1. That's who wins fantasy, the teams that have their backups produce like stars. No one wants rb3 stats from their rb3. Same with wr. I don't even draft a wr unless I think he can get 1200 8.

 

Your outlook on Sankey is probably the most likely and realistic. I'm just waiting and hoping for the coaches to come out and say that he is their guy.