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Interviewer: So you failed the drug test [at Baylor] because your coach didn't come by with the detox drinks that time?

Gordon: I failed the drug test because I was getting high.

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I am all for personal responsibility but Josh Gordon has got the raw deal of all raw deals. I dont get why he didnt go play in canada

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Praying for this young man.

 

That's a tough road.

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I am all for personal responsibility but Josh Gordon has got the raw deal of all raw deals. I dont get why he didnt go play in canada

 

He didn't sound like he believed he got a raw deal.

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So wait, the guy who got the most suspensions from Roger Goodell and to which, many fans ripped Goodell for his treatment of Gordon... is actually thanking and praising him? Of course, that will fall on deaf ears. Josh Gordon and Roger Goodell both believe in the same thing... Personal Accountability. Amazing. Who'da thunk it?

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He didn't sound like he believed he got a raw deal.

 

 

part of his recovery is taking responsibility for his actions... He doesnt have to think like he did but in my assessment he did

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His career is over in the NFL.

Most teams just don't want the baggage that comes with this kid. He should consider giving the CFL a try.

 

If his career is truly over in the NFL, he'd be an unrestricted free agent... just like Justin Blackmon.

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part of his recovery is taking responsibility for his actions... He doesnt have to think like he did but in my assessment he did

 

That's fine I guess. I don't see how you can think that, but ok. His situation is the norm for athletes. All throughout middle school, high school, and college... athletes are given advantages, extra chances, extra help, et al, all the time. The difference between him and guys like, I don't know, Antonio Brown, is that Antonio Brown wasn't dumb enough to abuse the opportunities he was given. Gordon did.

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His career is over in the NFL.

Most teams just don't want the baggage that comes with this kid. He should consider giving the CFL a try.

 

I disagree - If he's truly on the right track he'll get another opportunity. He's too talented for somebody not to look at him. Especially the Browns and not having anybody to throw the ball too. Plus it would be a great feel-good story.

 

All assuming he's cleared by Roger G obviously.

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I truly believe this kid is gonna bounce back. Im praying for him, how can anyone not root for him. Imagine if he came back and helped the browns turn things around.

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I truly believe this kid is gonna bounce back. Im praying for him, how can anyone not root for him. Imagine if he came back and helped the browns turn things around.

That won't happen if Hue Jackson is the coach

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I truly believe this kid is gonna bounce back. Im praying for him, how can anyone not root for him. Imagine if he came back and helped the browns turn things around.

 

He'll be 27 years old next year. I doubt anyone will give him as shot.

You boys been seeing these kids come out of school? In the past it would take 2-3 years for a WR to 'break out'...these days kids are performing at high levels on day 1.

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I've said it before, and I'll say it again. There is 0% chance he sees an NFL field this year. There is a very, very slim chance he sees the field next year or beyond, but I highly doubt it.

 

The Commish is to busy trying to prove someone guilty with no evidence and completely shoddy and made up processes that can be changed at a moments notice if he feels like it, and then defending those actions to the court.

 

He can't be bothered with this.

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I've said it before, and I'll say it again. There is 0% chance he sees an NFL field this year. There is a very, very slim chance he sees the field next year or beyond, but I highly doubt it.

 

The Commish is to busy trying to prove someone guilty with no evidence and completely shoddy and made up processes that can be changed at a moments notice if he feels like it, and then defending those actions to the court.

 

He can't be bothered with this.

 

Unless Goodell thinks that letting Gordon back in would help his and the league's image during their fight with Elliott. "People think we're jerks for going after Elliott. But we don't want to admit we're wrong here. Hey, let that feel-good story Gordon guy back in!" Plausible.

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Unless Goodell thinks that letting Gordon back in would help his and the league's image during their fight with Elliott. "People think we're jerks for going after Elliott. But we don't want to admit we're wrong here. Hey, let that feel-good story Gordon guy back in!" Plausible.

 

Except that if he gets reinstated, I believe he has a mandatory 4 game suspension waiting on him. That's the mininum. So, if he got through with rehab in the next 2 weeks that puts it out to week 8, then he gets everything in line conditionally (see M Bryant conditions of reinstatement) and it takes another 2 weeks that puts it out to week 10. Then, he serves the mandatory mininum of 4 weeks suspension and you're out to week 14. So, the best case scenario is that he could be eligible to play in week 15 or so.

 

Call me a skeptic, but I just don't see it happening.

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Except that if he gets reinstated, I believe he has a mandatory 4 game suspension waiting on him. That's the mininum. So, if he got through with rehab in the next 2 weeks that puts it out to week 8, then he gets everything in line conditionally (see M Bryant conditions of reinstatement) and it takes another 2 weeks that puts it out to week 10. Then, he serves the mandatory mininum of 4 weeks suspension and you're out to week 14. So, the best case scenario is that he could be eligible to play in week 15 or so.

 

Call me a skeptic, but I just don't see it happening.

 

As I understand it, it's unclear whether he'll have to serve that 4 game suspension. He went into rehab right before that was supposed to start, and opinions I've been reading are mixed about whether the league rules say it still needs to be enforced. Of course, if Goodell really is looking for something to make people like him and thinks it's Gordon playing again, he can make that suspension go away with a wave of his hand.

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Unless Goodell thinks that letting Gordon back in would help his and the league's image during their fight with Elliott. "People think we're jerks for going after Elliott. But we don't want to admit we're wrong here. Hey, let that feel-good story Gordon guy back in!" Plausible.

 

Well... Gordon hasn't been accused of beating women. Most of Gordon's issues were from smoking weed so I'd say even remotely comparing them is ridiculous.

 

I still can't go to Colorado to beat my wife.

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Well... Gordon hasn't been accused of beating women. Most of Gordon's issues were from smoking weed so I'd say even remotely comparing them is ridiculous.

 

I still can't go to Colorado to beat my wife.

 

Okay.

 

Of course, you saying that one of them has been accused of much worse than the other is comparing them...one is 'worse'. That's a comparison.

 

But my other point is that none of what you just said is applicable to what I said.

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Okay.

 

Of course, you saying that one of them has been accused of much worse than the other is comparing them...one is 'worse'. That's a comparison.

 

But my other point is that none of what you just said is applicable to what I said.

 

 

 

Bro-bo - I suppose we can disagree. Did you not insinuate that the zeek situation would somehow have an effect on the Josh Gordon decision?

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Bro-bo - I suppose we can disagree. Did you not insinuate that the zeek situation would somehow have an effect on the Josh Gordon decision?

 

I did. I didn't even insinuate, I outright said it :) My point is that a guy like Goodell (read: a scumbag in many ways) may try to use the Gordon situation to make people feel better about him. If he thinks people are upset about him going after Zeke, and if he perceives that public opinion were that Gordon deserves a second chance, I could see a guy like Goodell letting Gordon back into the league, even lifting that four game suspension. Just to get some good publicity. And all the while still going after Zeke.

 

To say that I could see that happening isn't in any way me saying that one case is worse or better than the other. I'm not making any judgments there about Zeke, or Gordon, or the 'bad things' each one did (or is supposed to have done in Zeke's case...Gordon is admitting to what he was charged with). In other words, I'm not doing what you called 'ridiculous'.

 

I'm just saying that a guy like Goodell could decide that he could use Gordon to make people like him more, by being nice to Gordon. And the reason he'd maybe see the need to is if he feels like the league reputation is taking a hit from their treatment of Zeke. That's all :)

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I did. I didn't even insinuate, I outright said it :) My point is that a guy like Goodell (read: a scumbag in many ways) may try to use the Gordon situation to make people feel better about him. If he thinks people are upset about him going after Zeke, and if he perceives that public opinion were that Gordon deserves a second chance, I could see a guy like Goodell letting Gordon back into the league, even lifting that four game suspension. Just to get some good publicity. And all the while still going after Zeke.

 

To say that I could see that happening isn't in any way me saying that one case is worse or better than the other. I'm not making any judgments there about Zeke, or Gordon, or the 'bad things' each one did (or is supposed to have done in Zeke's case...Gordon is admitting to what he was charged with). In other words, I'm not doing what you called 'ridiculous'.

 

I'm just saying that a guy like Goodell could decide that he could use Gordon to make people like him more, by being nice to Gordon. And the reason he'd maybe see the need to is if he feels like the league reputation is taking a hit from their treatment of Zeke. That's all :)

 

Well damn... My apologies sir. I mis-read your original comment.

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Well damn... My apologies sir. I mis-read your original comment.

 

No worries :) I, for one, have never misread anyone ever at any time. But I understand that it happens. </sarcasm> :D

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He'll be 27 years old next year. I doubt anyone will give him as shot.

You boys been seeing these kids come out of school? In the past it would take 2-3 years for a WR to 'break out'...these days kids are performing at high levels on day 1.

 

Really? Define "performing at high levels on day 1".

 

Over the last 5 seasons, there's been at least 30 WR's with at least 64 receptions per season (an average of 5 per game), every season. Of that group, only 13 rookies did it. I gotta tell you, when I look at the list of players who did that, only half would be considered, at worst, a "solid receiver". Just looking at that bottom 5, I wouldn't really consider them as anything more than "blah".

 

Here's your list...

Michael Thomas
Odell Beckham
Jarvis Landry
Kelvin Benjamin
Amari Cooper
Keenan Allen
Willie Snead
Mike Evans
Jordan Matthews
Sterling Shepard
Sammy Watkins
Justin Blackmon
Kendall Wright

 

Aside from Blackmon who's done and Wright who's not really all that good, let's say that all of the 11 guys are "really good" (even though that's not true), that's only an average of 2 guys per draft. That's not a lot.

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Really? Define "performing at high levels on day 1".

 

Over the last 5 seasons, there's been at least 30 WR's with at least 64 receptions per season (an average of 5 per game), every season. Of that group, only 13 rookies did it. I gotta tell you, when I look at the list of players who did that, only half would be considered, at worst, a "solid receiver". Just looking at that bottom 5, I wouldn't really consider them as anything more than "blah".

 

Here's your list...

Michael Thomas
Odell Beckham
Jarvis Landry
Kelvin Benjamin
Amari Cooper
Keenan Allen
Willie Snead
Mike Evans
Jordan Matthews
Sterling Shepard
Sammy Watkins
Justin Blackmon
Kendall Wright

 

Aside from Blackmon who's done and Wright who's not really all that good, let's say that all of the 11 guys are "really good" (even though that's not true), that's only an average of 2 guys per draft. That's not a lot.

 

Solid stats man, good contribution :)

 

JMatt was actually better his first year than he has been since, wasn't he? I never owned him, but I remember thinking 'man, I missed on him' that first year.

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I finally got around to watching the video and came away impressed. The kid is thoughtful, he was even during his time at Baylor. He's been knocked completely on his ass and I think realizes he's hit the lowest of lows. The interesting tidbit was that he was spending more time in the rehab center, so his application for reinstatement may still be a couple of weeks away. There are not many guy in the league or coming into it with his combination of size, speed, athleticism an intelligence. If he comes back in shape and fulfills all the requirements of his reinstatement, somebody WILL take a chance on him. Hell, Jerry Jones might sign him while he's still IN rehab.

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