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#1 The Football Guru

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Posted 27 April 2018 - 05:57 PM

Once upon a time, Miami HC Adam Gase oversaw a Denver offense that turned Julius Thomas into a fantasy beast. It appears Gase is ready to revisit that part of his playbook. Gesicki is one freaky dude. His NFL Combine numbers back up that athleticism: 4.54 speed at 6-6 and 247 pounds, 22 reps on the bench, 41.5-inch vertical, 129-inch broad and 6.76 on the 3-cone (anything under 7.0 at his size is phenomenal). His 34 1/8-inch arms would make a lot of offensive line coaches drool. His hands (10 1/4 inches) are about as sure as they come. Like Thomas, he is an oversized slot receiver. However, Gesicki wasn't nearly the athlete. So the bottom line is this: if he can add the necessary strength to become even an average blocker without losing his current athleticism, we are probably talking about the next unstoppable force at the tight end position. Gesicki's floor should be as a field-stretching move tight end who dominates in the red zone. His ceiling could be Tony Gonzalez if he lands in the right system, and he found a good home here. Rookie tight ends don't produce very often (although he could be the same exception Evan Engram was last year), so redraft owners need to view him as a high-upside TE2. Dynasty owners should consider him as early as the late part of the first round.


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Posted 27 April 2018 - 06:51 PM

Week one starter for the Dolphins.

Rookie season like you said Guru also tough to draft them.

But this guy could come on later on in the season.

If you like to take TE's late in redraft like I do he might be worth a pick up.
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Posted 27 April 2018 - 08:01 PM

This guy is dynasty keeper material in fantasy. Only negative is he is in Miami.

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Posted 27 April 2018 - 08:13 PM

This guy is dynasty keeper material in fantasy. Only negative is he is in Miami.

 

With Gase around, being in Miami is not a negative for his fantasy stock.



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Posted 27 April 2018 - 08:18 PM

 
With Gase around, being in Miami is not a negative for his fantasy stock.


I love their draft so far. Still worried about their QB situation.

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Posted 27 April 2018 - 08:32 PM

I love their draft so far. Still worried about their QB situation.

 

Agreed on the first point. I must be one of the last few people who believe Ryan Tannehill is more than just an average QB.



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Posted 27 April 2018 - 10:31 PM

I would agree about Tannehill.

He can get the job done.
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2 Peter 3:9. Isaiah 5:21. Proverbs 11:2. Matthews 5:16. Romans 12:14. James 1:8.
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Posted 28 April 2018 - 06:07 AM

6'6" 250 with nearly a 42" verticle.
In high school the guy was his school's all time leading scorer in basketball and the state's slam dunk contest champion. 4 year volleyball guy.

Fairly useless as a blocker as TE at this time, but great ball skills, so I imagine Miami will use him as a slot type player more often than not.

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Posted 28 April 2018 - 10:11 AM

Actually Manning turned Thomas into a fantasy beast. The fact that Gase had him last year and he performed no better than when he was in Jax proves that. I like Gase but Manning ran the offense. Gase was along for the ride and benefitted with an HC gig.

 

Gesecki is better that Thomas by a lot and he's on my draft list.


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Posted 28 April 2018 - 11:42 AM

Actually Manning turned Thomas into a fantasy beast. The fact that Gase had him last year and he performed no better than when he was in Jax proves that. I like Gase but Manning ran the offense. Gase was along for the ride and benefitted with an HC gig.

 

Gesecki is better that Thomas by a lot and he's on my draft list.

 

I think the fact Julius is a broken-down, nearly 30-year-old tight end who had nothing at QB was the reason for his lack of production last year. And still, he finished with 41-388-3. I will agree Gesicki is light years better and more athletic than JT ever was.



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Posted 28 April 2018 - 02:42 PM

I think the fact Julius is a broken-down, nearly 30-year-old tight end who had nothing at QB was the reason for his lack of production last year. And still, he finished with 41-388-3. I will agree Gesicki is light years better and more athletic than JT ever was.


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Posted 02 May 2018 - 08:20 AM

 
I think the fact Julius is a broken-down, nearly 30-year-old tight end who had nothing at QB was the reason for his lack of production last year. And still, he finished with 41-388-3. I will agree Gesicki is light years better and more athletic than JT ever was.


Well its the same QB.

#13 weepaws

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Posted 02 May 2018 - 08:51 AM

Well its the same QB.


No, Tannehill didn’t play last season.
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Psalm 34:18. Ezra 8:22. 2 Corinthians 1:3. Ezekiel 36:26. Matthew 7:24-25. Proverbs 28:21&27. 1 Peter 3.
1 John 3:16. Lamentations 3:25. Proverbs 10:27. Ephesians 6:13 Ezekiel 18:21-22. 2 Corinthians 10:5
Proverbs 15:29. Proverbs 18:12. 1 John 2:1-2. Ephesians 6:19. 2 Timothy 2:3-4. 1 Peter 4:14
Proverbs 23:12. Psalm 121:7-8. Ephesians 1:7. Deuteronomy 28:11-13. Romans 10:10. Romans 8:31
2 Peter 3:9. Isaiah 5:21. Proverbs 11:2. Matthews 5:16. Romans 12:14. James 1:8.
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Posted 04 May 2018 - 05:55 AM

6'6" 250 with nearly a 42" verticle.
In high school the guy was his school's all time leading scorer in basketball and the state's slam dunk contest champion. 4 year volleyball guy.
Fairly useless as a blocker as TE at this time, but great ball skills, so I imagine Miami will use him as a slot type player more often than not.

Have you (or anyone) ever actually watched him play. Just wondering how good his hands are?
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Posted 04 May 2018 - 10:12 AM

Have you (or anyone) ever actually watched him play. Just wondering how good his hands are?


I've watched some of his games. Not all of them. From what I saw is he is a fluid route runner who can catch the ball on fades, over the middle, and contested passes. If the Dolphins have a decent run game, Gesicki will prove to be a great investment for Miami as he will be a great 3rd down target to split attention away from the run game. I'm buying in on him for fantasy.

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Posted 04 May 2018 - 10:30 AM

I've watched some of his games. Not all of them. From what I saw is he is a fluid route runner who can catch the ball on fades, over the middle, and contested passes. If the Dolphins have a decent run game, Gesicki will prove to be a great investment for Miami as he will be a great 3rd down target to split attention away from the run game. I'm buying in on him for fantasy.

You talked me into it, thanks. Could you imagine a guy like Evan Engram with good hands?
I knew how athletic, and the upside he has. Just wanted to make sure their wasn't a hands of stone tendency in there.
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#17 The Football Guru

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Posted 04 May 2018 - 12:12 PM

Have you (or anyone) ever actually watched him play. Just wondering how good his hands are?

 

As I said above, his hands are about as sure as they come. He had some drop issues early in his career, but he caught just about everything thrown his way over the last two years. FWIW, Lance Zeirlein said Gesicki hasn't had "a legitimate drop" in two years.



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Posted 04 May 2018 - 05:49 PM

MG has phenomenal hands, leaping ability and body control.
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#19 weepaws

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Posted 04 May 2018 - 06:05 PM

Shhh man lets keep the stock low, the kids might be watching and taking notes.

I like taking Te late and hes diffently going to be a big target.

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Todays Proverbs 4 Todays Psalm 19 God Bless.

Isaiah 12:2. Luke 14:23. Daniel 4:37. 2 Kings 17:39. Nahum 1:7. 1 Timothy 6:18-19. Psalm 9:7&8.
Psalm 34:18. Ezra 8:22. 2 Corinthians 1:3. Ezekiel 36:26. Matthew 7:24-25. Proverbs 28:21&27. 1 Peter 3.
1 John 3:16. Lamentations 3:25. Proverbs 10:27. Ephesians 6:13 Ezekiel 18:21-22. 2 Corinthians 10:5
Proverbs 15:29. Proverbs 18:12. 1 John 2:1-2. Ephesians 6:19. 2 Timothy 2:3-4. 1 Peter 4:14
Proverbs 23:12. Psalm 121:7-8. Ephesians 1:7. Deuteronomy 28:11-13. Romans 10:10. Romans 8:31
2 Peter 3:9. Isaiah 5:21. Proverbs 11:2. Matthews 5:16. Romans 12:14. James 1:8.
Psalm 58:11. Ezekiel 33:11-13. Hosea 14:9. Psalm 100:4. Romans 14:9. 2 Chronicles 32:8.
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Posted 04 May 2018 - 06:36 PM

This kid is gonna be good.



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Posted 05 May 2018 - 06:27 AM

No, Tannehill didnt play last season.


Yep youre right I was thinking 2016 but Julius was with Jax in 2016.

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Posted 12 May 2018 - 01:35 PM

Miami fan and resident here...been a while but I'm always lurking.

 

Relative to where this kid is going in mocks as of now he has the potential to be an absolute steal.  The Dolphins WR corp is horribly average and the depth chart at WR is downright embarrassing.  Tannehill loves to dump the ball short and this kid is ridiculously athletic.

 

I know the track record for rookie TE's isn't great but if there was ever a rookie TE who walked into about the most favorable fantasy situation possible...it's THIS kid in THIS spot.

 

Buy buy buy.  I'm the type that typically waits on TE anyways so I'm always on the lookout for late values.  For 2018 my TE of choice will be this kid.  


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#23 weepaws

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Posted 13 May 2018 - 10:07 AM

Yeah I’m hoping he’s stock won’t go up.

I like to draft a te late, and he is going to be my target.

So let’s not post too much good stuff about him going forward.

Lol, just kidding.


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Todays Proverbs 4 Todays Psalm 19 God Bless.

Isaiah 12:2. Luke 14:23. Daniel 4:37. 2 Kings 17:39. Nahum 1:7. 1 Timothy 6:18-19. Psalm 9:7&8.
Psalm 34:18. Ezra 8:22. 2 Corinthians 1:3. Ezekiel 36:26. Matthew 7:24-25. Proverbs 28:21&27. 1 Peter 3.
1 John 3:16. Lamentations 3:25. Proverbs 10:27. Ephesians 6:13 Ezekiel 18:21-22. 2 Corinthians 10:5
Proverbs 15:29. Proverbs 18:12. 1 John 2:1-2. Ephesians 6:19. 2 Timothy 2:3-4. 1 Peter 4:14
Proverbs 23:12. Psalm 121:7-8. Ephesians 1:7. Deuteronomy 28:11-13. Romans 10:10. Romans 8:31
2 Peter 3:9. Isaiah 5:21. Proverbs 11:2. Matthews 5:16. Romans 12:14. James 1:8.
Psalm 58:11. Ezekiel 33:11-13. Hosea 14:9. Psalm 100:4. Romans 14:9. 2 Chronicles 32:8.
John 3:3-7. Philippians 2:11. Titus 2:11-14. Ephesians 4:2. Romans 11:33. Proverbs 12:1&26.
1 Timothy 1:15. Psalm 119:6. Proverbs 22:4. Psalm 46:1. Romans 12:17-21. 2 Chronicles 34&35.

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Posted 12 June 2018 - 08:40 AM

Gesicki's floor should be as a field-stretching move tight end who dominates in the red zone.


I'd say his floor would be the first super freak tightend... Vernon Davis.

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Posted 12 June 2018 - 08:41 AM

The Miami Herald reports second round TE Mike Gesicki "looked lost at times" during OTAs.
Analysis: Gesicki repped with the backups for most of the spring. It's not a huge concern at this stage, but Gesicki has some learning curve flags as a rookie tight end. With only A.J. Derby and MarQueis Gray ahead of him, there's a clear path for Gesicki to open the season in a starting role, though his blocking could limit him on early downs. Gesicki can be this year's Evan Engram if everything clicks.

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Posted 12 June 2018 - 08:42 AM

I'd say his floor would be the first super freak tightend... Vernon Davis.

Great. We got a crier on our hands.
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Posted 12 June 2018 - 08:43 AM

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 02:07 PM

No worries here. I didn't even know what you were talking about.

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 02:20 PM

Actually Manning turned Thomas into a fantasy beast. The fact that Gase had him last year and he performed no better than when he was in Jax proves that. I like Gase but Manning ran the offense. Gase was along for the ride and benefitted with an HC gig.

 

Gesecki is better that Thomas by a lot and he's on my draft list.

Agree, not just Julius either. No hate for Gesicki, but Peyton made Denver worthy.