[Recliner Pilot]

While The Messiah is pushing for the biggest pork-barrel bill in the history of ever, he is chastising Wall Street firms for their bonusses.

He called the "shameful" and "the height of irresponsibility"...... "And part of what we're going to need is for the folks on Wall Street who are asking for help to show some restraint, and show some discipline, and show some sense of responsibility."
Look in the mirror Mr. President.

Then he followed up with this gem:

"There will be time for them to make profits, and there will be time for them to get bonuses ... Now is not that time."

His Socialist stripes are starting to show, and barely two weeks into his term.

[Brad GLuckman]

I agree with Obama on this one

[KSB2424]

If a company on Wall Street accepts any bailout monies then Obama has a leg to stand on.

If a company on Wall Street is not part of any bailout then Obama can go fock himself.

[kpbuckeye]

Brad GLuckman, on Jan 30 2009, 12:41 PM, said:

I agree with Obama on this one

i don't consider this socialism.

[Recliner Pilot]

Telling Wall Street "Now is not the time" for profits is a good idea?

WTF?

[BLS]

Here's why this WHOLE bailout is a bad idea.

Now, the goverment has control of how Wall St. uses their bailout money.

They should've just let em fuckin fail, then there wouldn't be any money available for bonuses and we wouldn't have these issues.

[itsbigmoni]

I agree with the bonuses part but i don't get why he would say that about profits. Maybe if you read all of his comments he puts it more into context. I am highly doubtful his intentions were to say now is not the time for businesses to make profits. I don't think any person alive would suggest that.

[surferskin]

BLS, on Jan 30 2009, 01:03 PM, said:

Here's why this WHOLE bailout is a bad idea.

Now, the goverment has control of how Wall St. uses their bailout money.

They should've just let em fuckin fail, then there wouldn't be any money available for bonuses and we wouldn't have these issues.

[KSB2424]

itsbigmoni, on Jan 30 2009, 01:26 PM, said:

I agree with the bonuses part but i don't get why he would say that about profits. Maybe if you read all of his comments he puts it more into context. I am highly doubtful his intentions were to say now is not the time for businesses to make profits. I don't think any person alive would suggest that.

Yeah it is kinda weird in the context it is presented. I'm not sure why he is even saying anything like this to begin with though.

If he stated: To all the banks and motor companies that accepted taxpayer funds, I do not think those should be used to pay bonuses. I could dig it. Those companies accepted gov't monies, therefore the POTUS has some say so.

However I find it ridiculous for him to try and tell a company that has not accepted gov't bailout money how to run their business.

[swamp dog]

now is not the time for wall street fat cats to get $18 billion in bonuses from taxpayers.

right on, obama.

[Recliner Pilot]

swamp dog, on Jan 30 2009, 12:34 PM, said:

now is not the time for wall street fat cats to get $18 billion in bonuses from taxpayers.

right on, obama.

I brought in the bonus situation to illustrate how hypocritical Obama is for chastising them for bonusses while at the same time shoving this turd of a pork-barrel bill down our throats.

The main point is he is saying now isn't the time for profit on wall street. WTF is that?

[Flashover]

President Obama is referring to the $18+ Billion in bonuses Wall Street gave themselves. After receiving billions in bailout money the execs turn around and give themselves billions in bonuses. That is shameful and is the height of irresponsibility, just like President Obama said. Too bad RP didn't give a link, it seems like he just took a couple quotes which was taken out of context.

[phillybear]

Flashover, on Jan 30 2009, 01:41 PM, said:

President Obama is referring to the $18+ Billion in bonuses Wall Street gave themselves. After receiving billions in bailout money the execs turn around and give themselves billions in bonuses. That is shameful and is the height of irresponsibility, just like President Obama said. Too bad RP didn't give a link, it seems like he just took a couple quotes which was taken out of context.

Which is not quite as bad as Congress and Obama wanting to give away a historic amount of money towards their little pet projects. In essense, it's a couple trillion dollar bonus scam.

I don't know who the complainers were, but those that were against the Iraq war due to money spent should be apoplectic about the money about to be wasted now. Even Bush wasn't this stupid. Oh, wait. He was. He wanted the stimulus stuff too. So then why is Congress and Obama so hell bent on continuing GWB policies? It didn't work, and it won't work in the future. Other than rewarding the special interest groups.

Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.

[Recliner Pilot]

Flashover, on Jan 30 2009, 12:41 PM, said:

President Obama is referring to the $18+ Billion in bonuses Wall Street gave themselves. After receiving billions in bailout money the execs turn around and give themselves billions in bonuses. That is shameful and is the height of irresponsibility, just like President Obama said. Too bad RP didn't give a link, it seems like he just took a couple quotes which was taken out of context.

Obama's comments I listed are all over the innerweb. Feel free to look them up and explain how they are taken out of context, or stick to just being a whiny punk.

All this time we have heard what a great orator this guy is, how he is so elequent with words, how he choses them carefully...........but you now want to say "He didn't mean to say profits".

Which is it?

[Strike]

Recliner Pilot, on Jan 30 2009, 11:50 AM, said:

Obama's comments I listed are all over the innerweb. Feel free to look them up and explain how they are taken out of context, or stick to just being a whiny punk.

All this time we have heard what a great orator this guy is, how he is so elequent with words, how he choses them carefully...........but you now want to say "He didn't mean to say profits".

Which is it?

It comes down to this. When Bush misspoke he got lambasted. When Obama misspeaks, we're supposed to know what he MEANT, not what he SAID. I'm sure he'll clarify on his trip to the 57th state.

[surferskin]

Strike, on Jan 30 2009, 01:58 PM, said:

It comes down to this. When Bush misspoke he got lambasted. When Obama misspeaks, we're supposed to know what he MEANT, not what he SAID. I'm sure he'll clarify on his trip to the 57th state.

After he figures out how to open and walk through the window.

[Flashover]

Retarded Pilot, on Jan 30 2009, 01:50 PM, said:

Obama's comments I listed are all over the innerweb. Feel free to look them up and explain how they are taken out of context, or stick to just being a whiny punk.

Whiny punk!? Such hateful speech from you RP. You have like 4 or 5 threads on the first page alone whining about shit! You seem a little more frustrated recently. You should try getting a girlfriend.

Here's an article and video. Make of it what you want.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/29/business...ref=todayspaper
Video

[Recliner Pilot]

Flashover, on Jan 30 2009, 01:37 PM, said:

Here's an article and video. Make of it what you want.

I make it out to be an article with zero quotes from Obama. This is what you bring to show me taking Obama's quotes out of context?

Nice job.

[NorthernVike]

KSB2424, on Jan 30 2009, 12:30 PM, said:

Yeah it is kinda weird in the context it is presented. I'm not sure why he is even saying anything like this to begin with though.

If he stated: To all the banks and motor companies that accepted taxpayer funds, I do not think those should be used to pay bonuses. I could dig it. Those companies accepted gov't monies, therefore the POTUS has some say so.

However I find it ridiculous for him to try and tell a company that has not accepted gov't bailout money how to run their business.

[peenie]

BLS, on Jan 30 2009, 03:03 PM, said:

They should've just let em fuckin fail, then there wouldn't be any money available for bonuses and we wouldn't have these issues.

[DAVID RUFFIN]

Flashover, on Jan 30 2009, 01:37 PM, said:

Whiny punk!? Such hateful speech from you RP. You have like 4 or 5 threads on the first page alone whining about shit! You seem a little more frustrated recently. You should try getting a girlfriend.

Here's an article and video. Make of it what you want.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/29/business...ref=todayspaper
Video

HATE-MONGERING

[Greedo]

Maybe I saw a different interview than RP. Obama said, paraphrasing, "now is not the time for big salaries and raises." He didn't reference profits. I watched him in context. Maybe there was a different interview I missed.

[jerryskids]

Greedo, on Jan 30 2009, 03:58 PM, said:

Maybe I saw a different interview than RP. Obama said, paraphrasing, "now is not the time for big salaries and raises." He didn't reference profits. I watched him in context. Maybe there was a different interview I missed.

Now is the perfect time for big salaries and raises. Why? Because this is the United States of America, and in this country it is always the perfect time to make money.

[Greedo]

Obama was discussing CEO bonuses and pay at the time. Tough to give yourself a big bonus while firing thousands of your employees and not expect backlash, don't you think?

[Voltaire]

itsbigmoni, on Jan 30 2009, 06:26 PM, said:

I agree with the bonuses part but i don't get why he would say that about profits. Maybe if you read all of his comments he puts it more into context. I am highly doubtful his intentions were to say now is not the time for businesses to make profits. I don't think any person alive would suggest that.

He didn't it was clearly aimed at getting all this money from the government then whittling off a large chunk of it as bonuses to executive.

[Cuse9]

Recliner Pilot, on Jan 30 2009, 05:40 PM, said:

While The Messiah is pushing for the biggest pork-barrel bill in the history of ever, he is chastising Wall Street firms for their bonusses.

He called the "shameful" and "the height of irresponsibility"...... "And part of what we're going to need is for the folks on Wall Street who are asking for help to show some restraint, and show some discipline, and show some sense of responsibility."
Look in the mirror Mr. President.

Then he followed up with this gem:

"There will be time for them to make profits, and there will be time for them to get bonuses ... Now is not that time."

His Socialist stripes are starting to show, and barely two weeks into his term.

Are you Shawn Hannity's twin brother? Thread after thread of bashing Obama for anything he does. Obviously he'll never be as great as Bush, but how can anyone reach the great hieghts of that stellar president. It doesn't matter what Obama does, you will reject it, so why continuously post about him when everyone knows you hate every and anything about him regardless of what he does.

We get the point. You hate Obama and will not support anything he does. If he turns the US around and when his term(s) is/are over and our economy is strong and things are super, you will still hate the guy. It is people like you that are making the country worse. Blind to everything except your own ideals. No meeting in the middle, no seeing the other sides point of view. Just hate, that is all the spews from your worthless posts.

[BLS]

Cuse9, on Jan 30 2009, 07:47 PM, said:

Are you Shawn Hannity's twin brother? Thread after thread of bashing Obama for anything he does. Obviously he'll never be as great as Bush, but how can anyone reach the great hieghts of that stellar president. It doesn't matter what Obama does, you will reject it, so why continuously post about him when everyone knows you hate every and anything about him regardless of what he does.

We get the point. You hate Obama and will not support anything he does. If he turns the US around and when his term(s) is/are over and our economy is strong and things are super, you will still hate the guy. It is people like you that are making the country worse. Blind to everything except your own ideals. No meeting in the middle, no seeing the other sides point of view. Just hate, that is all the spews from your worthless posts.

While I TOTALLY get that RP's posts are unnerving, to say the least, his point albeit ridiculously redundant, is still valid.

I'm not an Obama hater. I'm more of a Ron Paul lover (I'm gonna get blasted for that).
But after some thought, I of course don't want Obama to fail because that would mean WE would fail as a nation.
But you have to admit, there are some things that aren't smelling so rosey right now.

And it's not all Obama's fault...he hasn't even voted on this bill yet.
But there is some dirt out there.

I just wanna see us back on track, with the most possible lubrication available.

[Brad GLuckman]

kpbuckeye, on Jan 30 2009, 12:45 PM, said:

i don't consider this socialism.

Recliner Pilot, on Jan 30 2009, 12:50 PM, said:

Telling Wall Street "Now is not the time" for profits is a good idea?

WTF?

It depends on what he meant...

Now if companies that got bailout money are giving out $18 billion in bonuses...then yes I'm pissed off. Because that is MY money they are giving as bonuses. I agree 100% with Obama that the bonuses are shameful and I consider it a slap in the face to the American taxpayer.

Now I don't think he meant wall street shouldn't be making profits...but if he did then he's a moron

[GeminiV]

Greedo, on Jan 30 2009, 03:11 PM, said:

Obama was discussing CEO bonuses and pay at the time. Tough to give yourself a big bonus while firing thousands of your employees and not expect backlash, don't you think?

They're getting big bonuses FOR losing a bunch of money and firing thousands of their employees. It's not easy ruining so many lives -- they need something with which to console themselves.

[Cuse9]

BLS, on Jan 31 2009, 02:30 AM, said:

While I TOTALLY get that RP's posts are unnerving, to say the least, his point albeit ridiculously redundant, is still valid.

I'm not an Obama hater. I'm more of a Ron Paul lover (I'm gonna get blasted for that).
But after some thought, I of course don't want Obama to fail because that would mean WE would fail as a nation.
But you have to admit, there are some things that aren't smelling so rosey right now.

And it's not all Obama's fault...he hasn't even voted on this bill yet.
But there is some dirt out there.

I just wanna see us back on track, with the most possible lubrication available.

I agree with pretty much everything you said. The problem is RC continues to post every single thing Obama does and lets everyone know why it's so terrible. If he didn't post the same thing over and over then his point would be taken more serious, rather than just "another thread by RC bashing Obama".

I'll support our President, whoever it may be, until the give me reasons not to. I was behind Bush, until numerous acts made it clearly obvious he was going in the wrong direction. Obama had the majority's vote because the things he was campaigning were what we wanted. Now he is surrounding himself with lobbyists, has two guys who didn't pay their taxes....definitly some disturbings things going on! However, I still haven't seen any bad or good results. While I may not like some of the people he's surrounded himself with I haven't seen them do anything bad under the new administration. Bottom line is I'm still hopeful.

As for Recliner Pilot, like I said, we get the point: I had to do some stalking, but enough is enough?! Same thing over and over.......

Obama: "Now is not the time" for profits on Wall Street.

More Obamaworship from the media.

$335,000,000 For STDs. Yeah, that will create jobs

President Rahm?

Things you should know about the Demwit "Stimulus" package.

The "Green" Inauguration.

Obama wants to close Gitmo

Another turd of an appointment by The Messiah

Anyone seen the new U.S. Flag?

Tell me why we shouldn't expect Obama to fulfill EVERY campaign promise he made?

So Flash, it's just right wing wackos who think Obama is Godlike?

Obama's SEC Chief nominee has ties to Madoff.

[nobody]

This was the actual quote of anyone is interested

"There will be time for them to make profits, and there will be time for them to get bonuses -- now is not that time. And that's a message that I intend to send directly to them."

[FeelingMN]

RP can be a stubborn pr!ck for the very reasons you alluded to Cuse, but I think his is a necessary voice in any fully functioning democracy. True, he's a bit of a troll, but there is some truth to what he posts; i.e., he doesn't make sh!t up to make a point, nor does he resort to tabloid-esque coverage of the issues. He does spin the fock out of any story, but we here at FFToday should know that by now.

I totally see where you're coming from Cuse, and I'm not disagreeing necesarily. (seriously RP, do you watch sports/look at pron/have cats/stargaze/sketch landscapes? Who is the man behind the mask?) I think we should always welcome dissenting views, no matter how unpleasant/annoying they are. I guess I'm cool with it because I know what I stand for at the end of the day, and the objective isn't trying to convince others that my view is right, it's in convincing myself that my views are right. It's not that I have a lack of conviction. It's that I believe in the folly of human nature, and I'm not exempt from that. At the end of the day, if I'm truly right, then hopefully enough other people have come to the same conclusion, or enough other people have taken notice of where I stand. Either way, it ain't about bending someone else's mind around my perspective.

[Cuse9]

FeelingMN, on Jan 31 2009, 04:10 AM, said:

RP can be a stubborn pr!ck for the very reasons you alluded to Cuse, but I think his is a necessary voice in any fully functioning democracy. True, he's a bit of a troll, but there is some truth to what he posts; i.e., he doesn't make sh!t up to make a point, nor does he resort to tabloid-esque coverage of the issues. He does spin the fock out of any story, but we here at FFToday should know that by now.

I totally see where you're coming from Cuse, and I'm not disagreeing necesarily. (seriously RP, do you watch sports/look at pron/have cats/stargaze/sketch landscapes? Who is the man behind the mask?) I think we should always welcome dissenting views, no matter how unpleasant/annoying they are. I guess I'm cool with it because I know what I stand for at the end of the day, and the objective isn't trying to convince others that my view is right, it's in convincing myself that my views are right. It's not that I have a lack of conviction. It's that I believe in the folly of human nature, and I'm not exempt from that. At the end of the day, if I'm truly right, then hopefully enough other people have come to the same conclusion, or enough other people have taken notice of where I stand. Either way, it ain't about bending someone else's mind around my perspective.

I hear ya. To me this guy is similar to Dallas Empire. He posted the same thing over and over about the Cowboys and everyone simply became tired of it. So much so that most people have him on ignore (well, welching on a bet as well). Even if Dallas Empire had a valid point, nobody cared cause it was the same old homerism stuff. Same thing for RC, he adds nothing more than bashing on Obama. After a while all I see is blah, blah, blah. Kind of like listening Hannity or Limbaugh. Nothing more than another person with "no clue how to make things better so let's spread negativity as much as we can."

I've reached the point where I'm tired of complete left and right wingers. They see only black or white. They can't see the truth and don't care to. By reading RC's posts you would think that Obama has done more bad things in three weeks than Bush did in eight years. Bush surrounded himself with some good people and everything went to hell in a handbasket, so maybe by Obama surrounding self by some questionable characters it will work out?! Unlike RC I don't want to see the nation go in the toilet. Welll, we're already in the toilet, I just don't want it to get flushed.

[tikigods]

Recliner Pilot, on Jan 30 2009, 12:40 PM, said:

While The Messiah is pushing for the biggest pork-barrel bill in the history of ever, he is chastising Wall Street firms for their bonusses.

He called the "shameful" and "the height of irresponsibility"...... "And part of what we're going to need is for the folks on Wall Street who are asking for help to show some restraint, and show some discipline, and show some sense of responsibility."
Look in the mirror Mr. President.

Then he followed up with this gem:

"There will be time for them to make profits, and there will be time for them to get bonuses ... Now is not that time."

His Socialist stripes are starting to show, and barely two weeks into his term.

Link to laws that were broken?

[Cdub100]

FeelingMN, on Jan 31 2009, 12:10 AM, said:

RP can be a stubborn pr!ck for the very reasons you alluded to Cuse, but I think his is a necessary voice in any fully functioning democracy. True, he's a bit of a troll, but there is some truth to what he posts; i.e., he doesn't make sh!t up to make a point, nor does he resort to tabloid-esque coverage of the issues. He does spin the fock out of any story, but we here at FFToday should know that by now.

I totally see where you're coming from Cuse, and I'm not disagreeing necesarily. (seriously RP, do you watch sports/look at pron/have cats/stargaze/sketch landscapes? Who is the man behind the mask?) I think we should always welcome dissenting views, no matter how unpleasant/annoying they are. I guess I'm cool with it because I know what I stand for at the end of the day, and the objective isn't trying to convince others that my view is right, it's in convincing myself that my views are right. It's not that I have a lack of conviction. It's that I believe in the folly of human nature, and I'm not exempt from that. At the end of the day, if I'm truly right, then hopefully enough other people have come to the same conclusion, or enough other people have taken notice of where I stand. Either way, it ain't about bending someone else's mind around my perspective.

Fail

[Recliner Pilot]

You Obamunists sure get p!ssy when someone questions one of his policies, appointments, or his massive pork-barrel non-stimulus package. Seems like you were the same group bashing Bush at every turn. All of the sudden you can't question anything the President does.

Fock that. If I don't like something Obama does I will say so. Same with the Demwit Congress. Some of you are almost as bad as Flash getting his panties in a twist because I called Obama "Messiah" and "Clown", even though he said nothing for years while people called Bush every name in the book.

Yep, I'm a "hate-monger" for questioning The Messiah.

[tikigods]

Recliner Pilot, on Jan 31 2009, 06:29 PM, said:

You Obamunists sure get p!ssy when someone questions one of his policies, appointments, or his massive pork-barrel non-stimulus package. Seems like you were the same group bashing Bush at every turn. All of the sudden you can't question anything the President does.

Fock that. If I don't like something Obama does I will say so. Same with the Demwit Congress. Some of you are almost as bad as Flash getting his panties in a twist because I called Obama "Messiah" and "Clown", even though he said nothing for years while people called Bush every name in the book.

Yep, I'm a "hate-monger" for questioning The Messiah.

Link to illegal activity by Obama?

[Brad GLuckman]

tikigods, on Jan 31 2009, 06:54 PM, said:

Link to illegal activity by Obama?

Here ya go!

[gocolts]

Flashover, on Jan 30 2009, 12:41 PM, said:

President Obama is referring to the $18+ Billion in bonuses Wall Street gave themselves. After receiving billions in bailout money the execs turn around and give themselves billions in bonuses. That is shameful and is the height of irresponsibility, just like President Obama said. Too bad RP didn't give a link, it seems like he just took a couple quotes which was taken out of context.

WOW. Too bad Obama refuses to apply the same standard to himself and his appointments. Focking Geithner got some of this type of money as well, they just concealed it as a 500,000 severance package. But I guess that is fine since Obama nominated him. Beyond belief.

[Cuse9]

Recliner Pilot, on Jan 31 2009, 11:29 PM, said:

You Obamunists sure get p!ssy when someone questions one of his policies, appointments, or his massive pork-barrel non-stimulus package. Seems like you were the same group bashing Bush at every turn. All of the sudden you can't question anything the President does.

Fock that. If I don't like something Obama does I will say so. Same with the Demwit Congress. Some of you are almost as bad as Flash getting his panties in a twist because I called Obama "Messiah" and "Clown", even though he said nothing for years while people called Bush every name in the book.

Yep, I'm a "hate-monger" for questioning The Messiah.

I was going to explain something to you, but you simply wouldn't understand. Some people just don't get it.