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#1 edjr

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Posted 18 September 2009 - 06:08 AM

The late Patrick Swayze


If they are dead, do they really expect them to show up on time? :music_guitarred:

Why the f¨ck can't people just be honest and say the person is f¨cking dead?

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#2 Patriotsfatboy1

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Posted 18 September 2009 - 06:12 AM

I think that you use the term if they have been recently deceased, so it is shorter to say "late" than "recently deceased".

I think that it is also technically correct to use it for someone who is a former. In other words, you could call the former president of your company, the "late President"...
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Posted 18 September 2009 - 06:19 AM

I wish you were late. :music_guitarred:

#4 edjr

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Posted 18 September 2009 - 06:28 AM

I think that you use the term if they have been recently deceased, so it is shorter to say "late" than "recently deceased".

I think that it is also technically correct to use it for someone who is a former. In other words, you could call the former president of your company, the "late President"...


I heard someone say the late today when refering to someone than died 5 years ago :music_guitarred:

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Posted 18 September 2009 - 06:55 AM

I heard someone say the late today when refering to someone than died 5 years ago :music_guitarred:

You should make them "late" :dunno:
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Posted 18 September 2009 - 06:55 AM

Admittedly, David Letterman does look a bit like a zombie.

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Posted 18 September 2009 - 08:20 AM

as in "late...for NOT being pregnant" :pointstosky:

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Posted 18 September 2009 - 10:39 AM

as in "late...for NOT being pregnant" :wacko:

For the record, Maggie O'Hooligan may have possessed the worst fake Irish accent EVER.

For the record, she (Sarah Holcomb) also played the 13 year old that Larry banged on the football field in Animal House. She fell off the face of the earth after Caddyshack.
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Posted 18 September 2009 - 10:44 AM

For the record, she (Sarah Holcomb) also played the 13 year old that Larry banged on the football field in Animal House. She fell off the face of the earth after Caddyshack.


The ACME Animal House webpage gives the following information about Sarah Holcomb: [Her] four-year film career ended with Caddyshack in 1980. She reportedly turned to alcohol and drugs and slowly lost touch with reality as she suffered from schizophrenia. The 2004 film Stateside is reportedly about her descent through alcohol, drugs, sexual abuse and finally mental illness. I am told she is now living a quiet, obscure life far from the madness of Hollywood under an assumed name and does not wish to be found.



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Posted 18 September 2009 - 01:11 PM

as in "late...for NOT being pregnant" :first:

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#11 patweisers44

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Posted 18 September 2009 - 01:14 PM

Oh great! That's all I need! (Said with bad Irish accent)

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Posted 18 September 2009 - 10:26 PM

I prefer the term we use at the hospital..'expired'.
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Posted 19 September 2009 - 01:15 AM

work for a newspaper and can't stand this. i change it almost every time. its gotten to a point where it is just used so often ... its hard to stay on top of.

it actually is in the Associated Press stylebook as acceptable I believe.

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Posted 19 September 2009 - 02:31 AM

work for a newspaper and can't stand this. i change it almost every time. its gotten to a point where it is just used so often ... its hard to stay on top of.

it actually is in the Associated Press stylebook as acceptable I believe.


Do you mind it generally or because of overuse?

Not sure if edjr is serious about how he sees late as limited to meaning past due. Since like mentioned, it can also mean existing in the recent past, it's not being misused.

If it's applied to someone who was renown and didn't have many peers, I think the window of what defines 'recent' widens. "The late economist..." versus the dictionary example below.

The sense of "deceased" (as in the late Mrs. Smith) is from 1490, from an adv. sense of "recently."


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Posted 19 September 2009 - 02:58 AM

Why the f¨ck can't people just be honest and say the person is f¨cking dead?

Since that's journalistic the writer has a responsibility to give context the reader may find important. Most people are going to be aware that Swayze died recently, but there could still be some wondering when he died if it just said "the deceased Patrick Swayze."

As for general use, I'd guess 'dead' is steered away from when people want to use a respectful tone, because it can sound abrupt and detached. Doesn't always, depends on the context.

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#16 peenie

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Posted 19 September 2009 - 10:32 AM

i thought this thread said, "why do people call people late."
i was going to 'out' edjr as that is a gay word that means (urbandictionary):

Something that is out of vogue, style or fashion

to be boring,unimaginative, lacking innovation and so yesterday.

A term to mean someting is tired, no good, lacks taste, ugly, any negative description.
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#17 BMoney

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Posted 19 September 2009 - 04:14 PM

i thought this thread said, "why do people call people late."
i was going to 'out' edjr as that is a gay word that means (urbandictionary):

Something that is out of vogue, style or fashion

to be boring,unimaginative, lacking innovation and so yesterday.

A term to mean someting is tired, no good, lacks taste, ugly, any negative description.
Very popular among black gay men.


two thousand late :wacko:


word :dunno:

#18 bweiser831

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Posted 20 September 2009 - 03:13 AM

Do you mind it generally or because of overuse?

Not sure if edjr is serious about how he sees late as limited to meaning past due. Since like mentioned, it can also mean existing in the recent past, it's not being misused.

If it's applied to someone who was renown and didn't have many peers, I think the window of what defines 'recent' widens. "The late economist..." versus the dictionary example below.


no, i just don't like using it. it was something that was drilled into me very early in my career.

'they're not late. they're never getting there.' they're dead people. idk. i have a ton of pet peeves and this is near the top of my list.