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#1 NewbieJr

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 11:06 AM

.....have won a single playoff game since the year they were caught cheating.

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 11:09 AM

.....have won a single playoff game since the year they were caught cheating.

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Really?

i have to check that....... :unsure:

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 11:11 AM

Really?

i have to check that....... :unsure:


They haven't won a playoff game since 2005? That doesn't sound right.

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 11:13 AM

They haven't won a playoff game since 2005? That doesn't sound right.

They went to the SB in 2007 :dunno:

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 11:17 AM

Worst thread evah. :thumbsdown:
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Posted 22 July 2011 - 11:17 AM

They went to the SB in 2007 :dunno:


I think he means "they haven't won a superbowl" not a playoff game. Oops.
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Posted 22 July 2011 - 11:18 AM

They went to the SB in 2007 :dunno:


Oops. My bad. They got caught the opening game of 2007. For some reason I always think it happened right after the Eagles lost the SB to them.

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 11:18 AM

Beautiful.

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 11:26 AM

My statement is true. They were caught cheating in 2007. That's the last year they won a playoff game. Not a Super Bowl, but a PLAYOFF GAME.

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 11:31 AM

My statement is true. They were caught cheating in 2007. That's the last year they won a playoff game. Not a Super Bowl, but a PLAYOFF GAME.

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But, as I recall, they got caught in like week 2 or 3 right? Then they went to the superbow, presumably not cheating.
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Posted 22 July 2011 - 11:35 AM

My statement is true. They were caught cheating in 2007. That's the last year they won a playoff game. Not a Super Bowl, but a PLAYOFF GAME.

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:lol:

:lol:

Got caught taping the Jets week 1 of the 2007 season. September 9, 2007

Played in 3 playoff games the same season.

January 12, 2008
January 20, 2008
February 3, 2008

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 11:38 AM

:lol: sorry son, there is no cure for stupid.

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 11:42 AM

In Newbie's defense, he doesn't keep up with the news. :music_guitarred:

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#14 NewbieJr

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 11:44 AM

But, as I recall, they got caught in like week 2 or 3 right? Then they went to the superbow, presumably not cheating.

No one knows the extent of the cheating. That entire season counts as a fraud. Each week further along they started getting more and more vulnerable.
They were beating teams by 50 the first half of the season. Towards the end, they were barely beating an AJ Feeley-led eagles team and only beat Baltimore because of a timeout called from the sideline. And of course, the supposed 'greatest team ever' can't even beat a giant team that barely snuck into the playoffs. So the cheating advantage got them through most of 2007.

And as I stated, they haven't won a playoff game since.

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 11:46 AM

since the year they were caught cheating


Caught cheating in 2007

Won playoff game in 2008.

Oops!

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 11:47 AM

It just seems obvious that the Brady-clutch magic and the BB-genius was very much tied to their cheating. They have suddenly become very non-clutch since.

They still are very good in the regular season. FWIW
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Posted 22 July 2011 - 11:50 AM

It just seems obvious that the Brady-clutch magic and the BB-genius was very much tied to their cheating. They have suddenly become very non-clutch since.

They still are very good in the regular season. FWIW



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Posted 22 July 2011 - 11:55 AM

It just seems obvious that the Brady-clutch magic and the BB-genius was very much tied to their cheating. They have suddenly become very non-clutch since.

They still are very good in the regular season. FWIW


(first off I hate the pats, so thats where I'm coming from)

But...

I think the Pats would probably have one or two more superbowl titles if Bellicheat would quit trying to be monty focking hall on draft day and actually draft a player from time to time. They haven't had a running back worth a sh!t in years, and their D could use help. I really think they are to some degree squandering Brady's prime right now.
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Posted 22 July 2011 - 12:03 PM

I read about the Patriots championship days in an encyclopedia once :doublethumbsup:

That made me curious about the Cowboys championship days so I went down to the library and read about that on microfiche :pointstosky: :pointstosky: :pointstosky:

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 12:05 PM

In Newbie's defense, he doesn't keep up with the news. :music_guitarred:


and he's a birther.

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 12:07 PM

I read about the Patriots championship days in an encyclopedia once :doublethumbsup:

That made me curious about the Cowboys championship days so I went down to the library and read about that on microfiche


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Posted 22 July 2011 - 12:22 PM

:lol:
You can find newbies stats to back up this claim in the same spot you can find the asterik :thumbsup:

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 12:37 PM

I enjoy watching the Pats, they are a fun offense and a great playmaking defense. The Newbs is right though, they did take a bit of a Tiger Woods turn after the ugly was exposed.

Pats fans though, just a bunch of phaggots, thats all I got there :lol:
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Posted 22 July 2011 - 12:38 PM

Is Thom Brady's faggity pigtail look catching on in Boston?

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#25 NewbieJr

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 12:57 PM

:lol:
You can find newbies stats to back up this claim in the same spot you can find the asterik :thumbsup:

Please list any playoff wins they've had from the 2008 season until now.

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 12:59 PM

Please list any playoff wins they've had from the 2008 season until now.

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Wow, they are 0-2 by your calculations. That is quite a sampling you have there, Einstein. :lol:

Must be a slow trolling day at Newbie's regular fishing grounds.

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#27 NewbieJr

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 01:01 PM

Wow, they are 0-2 by your calculations. That is quite a sampling you have there, Einstein. :lol:

Must be a slow trolling day at Newbie's regular fishing grounds.

Ok, so they were one-and-out twice and didn't even qualify the other year. If you don't win any playoff games, it's hard to get a large sampling. :wacko:
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Posted 22 July 2011 - 01:05 PM

Ok, so they were one-and-out twice and didn't even qualify the other year. If you don't win any playoff games, it's hard to get a large sampling. :wacko:


Umm. No, you cherry picked your numbers. Didn't you wear this one out years ago? The skin cancer must have spread to your brain.
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Posted 22 July 2011 - 01:06 PM

Please list any playoff wins they've had from the 2008 season until now.

TIA



You should start a thread about that. :thumbsup:

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 01:23 PM

Umm. No, you cherry picked your numbers. Didn't you wear this one out years ago? The skin cancer must have spread to your brain.

It wasn't cherry picked. I didn't just pick some random year. It was the years after they got caught cheating.

Take off your homer glasses, sport. Mr Clutch and Mr Genius aren't so clutch and genius now that they must play by the rules. :music_guitarred:
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Posted 22 July 2011 - 01:26 PM

Still going with that geddy lee looking chic ?

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 01:28 PM

It wasn't cherry picked. I didn't just pick some random year. It was the years after they got caught cheating.

Take off your homer glasses, sport. Mr Clutch and Mr Genius aren't so clutch and genius now that they must play by the rules. :music_guitarred:


"Sport"? The 80's are long since dead, Mr. Vernon.

You conveniently left off playoff games that happened some 15 games after the taping incident happened. That is the definition of "cherry picking".

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 02:13 PM

"Sport"? The 80's are long since dead, Mr. Vernon.

You conveniently left off playoff games that happened some 15 games after the taping incident happened. That is the definition of "cherry picking".

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:lol: 2007 was the season they got caught cheating. Any win that year is tainted.

Let's talk about 2008, 2009, and 2010. Why can't BB and Brady win playoff games all of a sudden?
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Posted 22 July 2011 - 02:32 PM

:lol: 2007 was the season they got caught cheating. Any win that year is tainted.

Let's talk about 2008, 2009, and 2010. Why can't BB and Brady win playoff games all of a sudden?


:D I think you might die from a heart attack if you were ever right about something. :D

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 02:51 PM

:D I think you might die from a heart attack if you were ever right about something. :D

Please explain what I'm wrong about. Have they won a playoff game after the 2007 season?
If so, please list it. I have them at 0-2 with one year not even making it. So tell me where I'm wrong. Or just quote a John Lennon song, Birther. Bwahahahah
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Posted 22 July 2011 - 03:27 PM

Please explain what I'm wrong about.



Some really smart guy lays it out nicely in post #15. :thumbsup:

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 03:43 PM



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Posted 22 July 2011 - 09:00 PM

They haven't won a single playoff game since '07, but their regular season record is even better than it was before the cheating scandal. I'm not sure what that all means. My thinking is that Brady just isn't the clutch player he used to be. I suppose it's possible he used to be clutch because of the cheating, but I don't think so. I think he has just gotten a little too complacent with having the perfect life. Anytime something goes wrong he doesn't know how to deal with it, because nothing bad happens in Tom Brady's life.

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 10:27 PM

They haven't won a single playoff game since '07, but their regular season record is even better than it was before the cheating scandal. I'm not sure what that all means. My thinking is that Brady just isn't the clutch player he used to be. I suppose it's possible he used to be clutch because of the cheating, but I don't think so. I think he has just gotten a little too complacent with having the perfect life. Anytime something goes wrong he doesn't know how to deal with it, because nothing bad happens in Tom Brady's life.


I think the problem is, back in the championship days, Brady had a running game and a top defense to lean on. Now it is pretty much the Brady show. Like I said earlier, if the Pats would use draft picks instead of hoarding them, they could have a much better defense and a good running back.
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Posted 23 July 2011 - 05:44 AM

My thinking is that Brady just isn't the clutch player he used to be. I suppose it's possible he used to be clutch because of the cheating,

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