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#1 MDC

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 09:06 AM

The author of the Declaration of Independence is often quoted by opposing groups to support their own agenda, but there are few who accurately apply some of his oft-repeated statements. During the healthcare reform debate, angry teabaggers cited Jefferson’s line that “a little rebellion, now and then, is a good thing,” as proof that revolution against government tyranny was advocated by a Founding Father as an option in 2009, and that sentiment has not diminished three years later heading into a general election. The groups claiming President Obama is a tyrannical leader have never given one example of tyranny, but they, with the GOP’s assistance, have whipped themselves into frenzy and openly called for armed insurrection against the United States government. One may be inclined to excuse talk of rebellion as angry rhetoric from a fringe element in the tea party, but a Virginia Republican Committee newsletter has called for armed revolution if President Obama is re-elected in November.

First, it is important to put Jefferson’s statement that “a little rebellion, now and then, is a good thing” in its proper context. Jefferson was showing support for the French who were rebelling against the wealthy elite and church that was keeping the population poor and hungry. In fact, Jefferson hated the wealthy and their banks, and in the same letter to Edward Carrington wrote that “man is the only animal which devours his own kind, and I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor.”

In the Virginia Republican Committee newsletter, there is nothing to imply that protecting Americans from the “prey of the rich on the poor” is the reason for calling for armed rebellion. According to the newsletter, President Obama, is a “political socialist ideologue unlike anything world history has ever witnessed or recognized,” and that the only option is “armed revolution should we fail with the power of the vote in November:” If one is confused as to what Republicans consider is a “political socialist ideologue,” the newsletter claims President Obama “shuns biblical praise, handicaps economic ability, disrespects the honor of earned military might,” and that under Obama, “the government is out of control, and this opportunity, must not be forsaken for we shall not have any coarse (sic) but armed revolution.”

Republicans calling for armed insurrection against the government is nothing new, and few are apt to forget congresswoman Michele Bachmann (R-MN) saying “I want people in Minnesota armed and dangerous on this issue of the energy tax because we need to fight back,” and went on to specifically cite Jefferson’s quote from 1787. Bachmann continued that, “we the people are going to have to fight back hard if we’re not going to lose our country,” and encouraged Americans “to do everything we can to thwart the Democrats at every turn,” and apparently that included armed rebellion.

Another Republican, Sharon Angle, said in a radio interview that it may come to the point that the public would bring down an out-of-control Congress with “Second Amendment remedies.” Angle repeated her warning when she called for “Second Amendment remedies” to deal with the “ever-growing tyrannical U.S. government,” and to replace her election opponent Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.


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They just love America so much that they're prepared to violently wage war on our government if our democratic elections don't turn out the right way. That kind of patriotism really brings a tear to my eye. :thumbsup:
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#2 Mike Honcho

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 09:09 AM

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They just love America so much that they're prepared to violently wage war on our government if our democratic elections don't turn out the right way. That kind of patriotism really brings a tear to my eye. :thumbsup:



Hey, there's precedent here, we could have the army just move them all to a reservation. Maybe give them some blankets too.

#3 Mungwater

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 09:16 AM

They started the first one over tea, does it really surprise you that people would consider one after an election? Instead of fetching coffee, could you please just read a history book or just watch the news for a half hour.

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 09:18 AM

We may have a half dozen posters here who subscribe to that newsletter.
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Posted 21 August 2012 - 09:32 AM

Awesome. Will they break out their gray coats and muskets?

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 09:34 AM

According to the newsletter, President Obama, is a “political socialist ideologue unlike anything world history has ever witnessed or recognized,”


Glad to see they're not resorting to wild hyperbole or anything. :thumbsup:

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 09:42 AM

They started the first one over tea, does it really surprise you that people would consider one after an election?


Well yeah, I think violent treason is sort of an extreme reaction to losing an election. Maybe I'm a super chill person though. :dunno:
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Posted 21 August 2012 - 09:45 AM

They ordering hundreds of thousands hollow points ?

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 09:55 AM

They started the first one over tea, does it really surprise you that people would consider one after an election? Instead of fetching coffee, could you please just read a history book or just watch the news for a half hour.


The first tea party was done because they had taxation without representation. Today we have a system in place whereby members of congress and presidents are elected by the people. Turning to violence because your guy didn't win is not anythng like what the original patriots did.
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Posted 21 August 2012 - 10:15 AM

I'm shocked you frequent such a whacky, left-wingnut blog.

I tried the link in the blog post to the " newsletter" and it didn't work. I'm on the phone so mebbe that's the problem. Anyone else able to get "Rmuse's" link to work?

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 10:22 AM

I'm shocked you frequent such a whacky, left-wingnut blog.

I tried the link in the blog post to the " newsletter" and it didn't work. I'm on the phone so mebbe that's the problem. Anyone else able to get "Rmuse's" link to work?


I don't frequent the site - a friend on Facebook posted it. :thumbsup:
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Posted 21 August 2012 - 10:26 AM

The first tea party was done because they had taxation without representation. Today we have a system in place whereby members of congress and presidents are elected by the people. Turning to violence because your guy didn't win is not anythng like what the original patriots did.


The last few elections make that somewhat debatable, but I get your point.
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Posted 21 August 2012 - 10:30 AM

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They just love America so much that they're prepared to violently wage war on our government if our democratic elections don't turn out the right way.

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but first, they put out a newsletter predictably filled with non-sequiturs and misspellings :thumbsup:

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 10:30 AM

The first tea party was done because they had taxation without representation. Today we have a system in place whereby members of congress and presidents are elected by the people. Turning to violence because your guy didn't win is not anythng like what the original patriots did.


Exactly.

Instead of revolting against the government, the proper move would be to start killing every citizen that voted for Obama. :thumbsup:
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Posted 21 August 2012 - 10:30 AM

I don't frequent the site - a friend on Facebook posted it. :thumbsup:

It's in your favorites.

Far be it from me to question the journalistic integrity of a poster on a radical left-wingnut blog by the name Rmuse, but is there a link to the letter in question?

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 10:36 AM

It's in your favorites.

Far be it from me to question the journalistic integrity of a poster on a radical left-wingnut blog by the name Rmuse, but is there a link to the letter in question?


The link in my first post works fine and includes a PDF of the actual newsletter. :thumbsup:
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Posted 21 August 2012 - 10:40 AM

It's in your favorites.

Far be it from me to question the journalistic integrity of a poster on a radical left-wingnut blog by the name Rmuse, but is there a link to the letter in question?


The link to the newsletter (by Ponch McPhee) is broken on every site that links to it...huffington, politicus, globalgrind, etc.

Edit: Just noticed that Politicus had to add screen shots of the letter at the bottom of their article. Looks like Ponch peenied it.
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Posted 21 August 2012 - 10:45 AM

The link to the newsletter (by Ponch McPhee) is broken on every site that links to it...huffington, politicus, globalgrind, etc.


I saw the letter earlier. It worked at : http://gcrcgop.com/s...s/march2012.pdf

The website that took it down was the Green County Republican committee: http://gcrcgop.com/

Hopefully someone saved the pdf.
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Posted 21 August 2012 - 11:08 AM

The link in my first post works fine and includes a PDF of the actual newsletter. :thumbsup:


the link to the pdf no longer works but they have the actual letter shown below the article now.

It's funny how a couple of the articles in the newsletter talk about how obama is so anti-Christian. Then in another article, they use a Thomas Paine quote and picture in a phurphur kind of way to try and show that smart people from the past agreed with them. A little history lesson for those republicans:

Thomas Paine was as anti-Christian as any American history. He called the study of the bible, "the study of nothing".
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#20 Recliner Pilot

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 11:58 AM

So, there is no link to the letter on the Rep website?

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 12:03 PM

So, there is no link to the letter on the Rep website?


No, it appears they've removed it. :thumbsup:
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Posted 21 August 2012 - 12:09 PM

No, it appears they've removed it. :thumbsup:

Sure they did, Sport

Burned by a radical left-wingnut blog.

Looks like we have another MDC thread fail. You should Newbie this thread ASAP. :banana:

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 12:13 PM

Sure they did, Sport

Burned by a radical left-wingnut blog.

Looks like we have another MDC thread fail. You should Newbie this thread ASAP. :banana:


So you claiming that the newsletter didn't exist and multiple sources made it up? Or you're just deflecting attention from your comrades' treason?

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Looks like ABC News in Washington DC / Virginia reported on this a ways back: link.
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Posted 21 August 2012 - 12:27 PM

So you claiming that the newsletter didn't exist and multiple sources made it up? Or you're just deflecting attention from your comrades' treason?

Edit:

Looks like ABC News in Washington DC / Virginia reported on this a ways back: link.

Holy Snuffaluffagus! Looks like the local yokal ABC outfit got duped just like you.

Their linky no worky either.

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 12:36 PM

Member of NH Legislature wishes death upon prominent (formerly prominent) Republicans.



Imagine if an all-out war broke out between the repubs and dems. Who would win in your opinion?


I guess if it comes down to it, I'd favor the Republicans in an all out battle. They have guns. The dems have meat sticks with poo on the end and a screaming army of the gheys.
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Posted 21 August 2012 - 12:45 PM

The dems have meat sticks with poo on the end and a screaming army of the gheys.


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Posted 21 August 2012 - 12:45 PM

Member of NH Legislature wishes death upon prominent (formerly prominent) Republicans.



Imagine if an all-out war broke out between the repubs and dems. Who would win in your opinion?


I guess if it comes down to it, I'd favor the Republicans in an all out battle. They have guns. The dems have meat sticks with poo on the end and a screaming army of the gheys.


I'm pretty sure there is a gun or two in the inner cities.

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 12:56 PM

Its disappointing when you come into a thread hoping for some consistency from RP.

If this were the Black Panthers, or some other leftie group, RP would be blasting Holder and the Obama administration for failing in their duty.

But since its a right wing group, he just pretends that half a dozen different media sources made it up.

Pathetic. Typical, but pathetic. :thumbsdown:
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Posted 21 August 2012 - 01:04 PM

I guess if it comes down to it, I'd favor the Republicans in an all out battle. They have guns. The dems have meat sticks with poo on the end and a screaming army of the gheys.


All the Dems would have to do is stage a mass gay marriage then bomb all the Chik-fil-A's. Game over.

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 01:10 PM

Its disappointing when you come into a thread hoping for some consistency from RP.

If this were the Black Panthers, or some other leftie group, RP would be blasting Holder and the Obama administration for failing in their duty.

But since its a right wing group, he just pretends that half a dozen different media sources made it up.

Pathetic. Typical, but pathetic. :thumbsdown:

All I did was ask to see the original letter on the Rep website so I could make up my own mind as to how outraged I should be.

I didnt feel like relying on the spin of "Rmuse" on MDC's favorite radical left-wingnut website.

It's not my fault nobody can produce the letter in question. Sorry that gets you all butthurt.

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 01:27 PM

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 01:33 PM

Member of NH Legislature wishes death upon prominent (formerly prominent) Republicans.


We also wish death upon people from Maine, Vermont, Connecticut, Massachusetts, and Rhode Island. We don't discriminate, we hate you all.

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 01:43 PM

Its disappointing when you come into a thread hoping for some consistency from RP.


What has RP ever done that would lead you to expect anything but partisan bullshit!t from him?

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 01:49 PM

What has RP ever done that would lead you to expect anything but partisan bullshit!t from him?

This carries a lot of weight coming from such a non-partsan, well informed person such as yourself.

Lol

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 01:56 PM

All I did was ask to see the original letter on the Rep website so I could make up my own mind as to how outraged I should be.

I didnt feel like relying on the spin of "Rmuse" on MDC's favorite radical left-wingnut website.

It's not my fault nobody can produce the letter in question. Sorry that gets you all butthurt.


the letter is right there in mdc's original website. the link is broken because it was taken off the republican website but the letter is still shown on the website mdc linked. just scroll down a bit.
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Posted 21 August 2012 - 02:01 PM

We also wish death upon people from Maine, Vermont, Connectivity, Massachusetts, and Rhode Island. We don't discriminate, we hate you all.

You were funnier when you stop posting here :(

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 02:04 PM

the letter is right there in mdc's original website. the link is broken because it was taken off the republican website but the letter is still shown on the website mdc linked. just scroll down a bit.

Not to question the journalistic credentials of MDC's hero, Rmuse, or anything, but with today's technology these things can easily be faked. Not saying that's the case, but I prefer to rely on original material in a case like this, not a recreation on a radical, far-left wingnut website.

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 02:05 PM

You were funnier when you stop posting here :(


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Posted 21 August 2012 - 02:14 PM

You were funnier when you stop posting here :(


I wasn't trying to be funny. :dunno:

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 02:18 PM

I wasn't trying to be funny. :dunno:


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