Djgb13 2,338 Posted September 12, 2018 So my town is expected to have hurricane winds (100+ mph not tropical storm winds). More than likely my power will be out and its gonna flood here since it did last time. My sisters house was an option but Ill be dammed if their generator isnt working which is pissing both my sister and BIL off cause he paid $50K for this thing and to have it wired to the whole house. Didnt work once before when their power went out due to a storm, guy came back and said he fixed it, and now its not working again. They are trying to get a part in tonight but if they dont then they are evacuating and going to Atlanta or somewhere. So looks like Ill prob just have to stay here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted September 12, 2018 So my town is expected to have hurricane winds (100+ mph not tropical storm winds). More than likely my power will be out and its gonna flood here since it did last time. My sisters house was an option but Ill be dammed if their generator isnt working which is pissing both my sister and BIL off cause he paid $50K for this thing and to have it wired to the whole house. Didnt work once before when their power went out due to a storm, guy came back and said he fixed it, and now its not working again. They are trying to get a part in tonight but if they dont then they are evacuating and going to Atlanta or somewhere. So looks like Ill prob just have to stay here.what is the problem with the generator? Any idea ? I know stuff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,338 Posted September 13, 2018 what is the problem with the generator? Any idea ? I know stuff Honestly no clue. My mom is just telling me all this from when she talked to my sister earlier. So of course they dont say whats wrong with it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FortKnight 3 Posted September 13, 2018 what is the problem with the generator? Any idea ? I know stuff Yes, for 50k they got robbed. So my town is expected to have hurricane winds (100+ mph not tropical storm winds). More than likely my power will be out and its gonna flood here since it did last time. My sisters house was an option but Ill be dammed if their generator isnt working which is pissing both my sister and BIL off cause he paid $50K for this thing and to have it wired to the whole house. Didnt work once before when their power went out due to a storm, guy came back and said he fixed it, and now its not working again. They are trying to get a part in tonight but if they dont then they are evacuating and going to Atlanta or somewhere. So looks like Ill prob just have to stay here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,941 Posted September 13, 2018 So my town is expected to have hurricane winds (100+ mph not tropical storm winds). More than likely my power will be out and its gonna flood here since it did last time. My sisters house was an option but Ill be dammed if their generator isnt working which is pissing both my sister and BIL off cause he paid $50K for this thing and to have it wired to the whole house. Didnt work once before when their power went out due to a storm, guy came back and said he fixed it, and now its not working again. They are trying to get a part in tonight but if they dont then they are evacuating and going to Atlanta or somewhere. So looks like Ill prob just have to stay here. Seriously, Dont. GTFO now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,941 Posted September 13, 2018 Yes, for 50k they got robbed. Well, its a mansion, so.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted September 13, 2018 Yes, for 50k they got robbed.Made up number to sound impressive. Seriously, Dont. GTFO now Def get out ASAP. But is it really gonna be that bad? The flooding is the worst part. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,338 Posted September 13, 2018 Made up number to sound impressive. Def get out ASAP. But is it really gonna be that bad? The flooding is the worst part. Nah its not a made up number. I thought I posted a picture of me in front of their house with my wife once before. With a house that big, getting a generator that will run the whole house, and wiring the entire house its gonna be expensive. And we are staying not leaving as of right now. Ill find out tomorrow what my sister and her family did. Guess it depends on if they get that part. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,480 Posted September 13, 2018 I'm no electrical engineer, but I don't think they rewire a whole house to hook up a generator. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,941 Posted September 13, 2018 Made up number to sound impressive. Def get out ASAP. But is it really gonna be that bad? The flooding is the worst part. Who knows what hes really gonna do anyway. By the time we figure out what went wrong, hell be sitting on a beach earning 20%. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,941 Posted September 13, 2018 I'm no electrical engineer, but I don't think they rewire a whole house to hook up a generator. They dont. A typical whole house generator runs off your existing natural gas hook ups and powers your homes exiting circuits. There are limits on how many circuits can be wired based on the size of the generator. Most critical systems these days are on dedicated circuits so those are prioritized. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,338 Posted September 13, 2018 They dont. A typical whole house generator runs off your existing natural gas hook ups and powers your homes exiting circuits. There are limits on how many circuits can be wired based on the size of the generator. Most critical systems these days are on dedicated circuits so those are prioritized. I doubt youre an expert once the area. But youre dumb as Fock if youre questioning it. Like who the hell even makes up that kind of sh1t? Which is why I say some of you are just childish and act retarded. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldMaid 1,838 Posted September 13, 2018 Raise your hand if anyone thinks Digby should just climb in the dishwasher and turn it on-we wouldn’t want him to miss the hurricane experience. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,338 Posted September 13, 2018 I'm no electrical engineer, but I don't think they rewire a whole house to hook up a generator. Look man just google it. I dont know the specifics other than that after the last hurricane he went and got a company to put a big generator and wire his house with it. You dont believe it? Fine whatever. I dont give a sh1t. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,480 Posted September 13, 2018 Yes I believe that they installed a generator. Stay safe down there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,379 Posted September 13, 2018 I'm no electrical engineer, but I don't think they rewire a whole house to hook up a generator. I think he meant "wire the generator to run the entire house". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,338 Posted September 13, 2018 I think he meant "wire the generator to run the entire house". Yea. Sorry if it sounded different but yea they wired the whole house to be run by the generator. It works as if they are running on the normal electricity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,379 Posted September 13, 2018 They dont. A typical whole house generator runs off your existing natural gas hook ups and powers your homes exiting circuits. There are limits on how many circuits can be wired based on the size of the generator. Most critical systems these days are on dedicated circuits so those are prioritized. Accurate. Critical circuits are wired to a sub panel, and the generator connected to sub panel. Or just do like me...kill the main to isolate generator power from grid, energize panel by backfeeding it, then turn breakers on/off as desired. I dont recommend this due to someone forgetting to turn off main and possible electrocuting a power company employee. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,941 Posted September 13, 2018 I doubt youre an expert once the area. But youre dumb as Fock if youre questioning it. Like who the hell even makes up that kind of sh1t? Which is why I say some of you are just childish and act retarded. Not an expert, but I used to run the installation biz for Home Depot in this region and we sold Generac whole house generators. This was about 6 years ago, so prices have surely gone up, back back then a top of the line 20kw Generac which powers a 5000 sf+ home sold for about $5K. Installation ranged from $1K-3K. So most of the mansions in this area got theirs for less than $10K. Like most of your numbers, $50K is inflated at best and most likely just made up as tan suggested. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LOD01 188 Posted September 13, 2018 Yea. Sorry if it sounded different but yea they wired the whole house to be run by the generator. It works as if they are running on the normal electricity. Pretty big house for a $50k generator. I just had a Generac 22 kVA installed for $15k including installing the 250 gallon propane tank and I have 3 AC units of which one is on some sort of switch because it can't run when it switches to the generator. Installer told me that he was barely able to get in under code. Next size unit was 27 kVA and was water cooled. That one was around 10k for just the generator. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,338 Posted September 13, 2018 Not an expert, but I used to run the installation biz for Home Depot in this region and we sold Generac whole house generators. This was about 6 years ago, so prices have surely gone up, back back then a top of the line 20kw Generac which powers a 5000 sf+ home sold for about $5K. Installation ranged from $1K-3K. So most of the mansions in this area got theirs for less than $10K. Like most of your numbers, $50K is inflated at best and most likely just made up as tan suggested. Nope. Not made up. Just repeating the info I was told. Not like I was there when he made the purchase or looked at the receipt. But if he says it cost that much then I believe him. Like normal people, theres no reason to make something like that up. So the fact that youre acting like you are shows your immaturity and idiocy. But by all means keep on doing it. Doesnt affect me at all or help them get that part so they dont have to evacuate to somewhere else Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,338 Posted September 13, 2018 Pretty big house for a $50k generator. I just had a Generac 22 kVA installed for $15k including installing the 250 gallon propane tank and I have 3 AC units of which one is on some sort of switch because it can't run when it switches to the generator. Yea....its a really big house. 4 stories and has an elevator in it. Its pretty big. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LOD01 188 Posted September 13, 2018 Yea....its a really big house. 4 stories and has an elevator in it. Its pretty big. I'd be super pissed if I paid that and it failed. Mine tests itself every Wednesday at 6:00 pm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,941 Posted September 13, 2018 Accurate. Critical circuits are wired to a sub panel, and the generator connected to sub panel. Or just do like me...kill the main to isolate generator power from grid, energize panel by backfeeding it, then turn breakers on/off as desired. I dont recommend this due to someone forgetting to turn off main and possible electrocuting a power company employee. There ya go. A better explanation than I can give. Id really like to get one, but weve never been without power here for more than a half day. Of course, a major blizzard or unexpected flood could knock things out for longer and Ill find myself really wishing Id sprung for one. How much was your system? Ive run a couple of new circuits, but have never undertaken a major electrical project. Some of my houses wiring was upgraded in 2012, but it was built in 1900 so Id need to hire a pro. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,379 Posted September 13, 2018 Pretty big house for a $50k generator. I just had a Generac 22 kVA installed for $15k including installing the 250 gallon propane tank and I have 3 AC units of which one is on some sort of switch because it can't run when it switches to the generator. Installer told me that he was barely able to get in under code. Next size unit was 27 kVA and was water cooled. That one was around 10k for just the generator. it could be a diesel generator for a commercial application. For firehouses, we usually have a 50-80kw. I could see that for a big house. You can 30-40k on those. Especially if you need 3 phase. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,338 Posted September 13, 2018 I'd be super pissed if I paid that and it failed. Mine tests itself every Wednesday at 6:00 pm. To make matters worse it failed once before and the guy supposedly fixed it. So yea my sisters pissed about it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,941 Posted September 13, 2018 Yea....its a really big house. 4 stories and has an elevator in it. Its pretty big. Your BIL should just remotely fly the bat plane into the eye of the storm and blow it to smithereens. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,379 Posted September 13, 2018 I'd be super pissed if I paid that and it failed. Mine tests itself every Wednesday at 6:00 pm. Yes. A standby generator should have an automatic regular test cycle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,125 Posted September 13, 2018 Your BIL should just remotely fly the bat plane into the eye of the storm and blow it to smithereens. Actually laughed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,338 Posted September 13, 2018 Well boys I married a dam genius. My wife just asked me if the rain fromthe hurricane will be salty since its coming from the ocean yep. Definitely a keeper Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,379 Posted September 13, 2018 There ya go. A better explanation than I can give. Id really like to get one, but weve never been without power here for more than a half day. Of course, a major blizzard or unexpected flood could knock things out for longer and Ill find myself really wishing Id sprung for one. How much was your system? Ive run a couple of new circuits, but have never undertaken a major electrical project. Some of my houses wiring was upgraded in 2012, but it was built in 1900 so Id need to hire a pro. Im barebones. I have a 10kw portable generator. But all you need is a 5-6kw to run fridges, freezer, lights, cieling fans etc. Pretty much everything but range, heat pump, electric water heater. Again, im not a licensed electrician and dont recommend this. Readers digest version...cost is about $200 plus generator. First,install a double pole breaker in your panel at the bottom, away from other breakers (30amp good for a 5-6kw generator).This is your generator breaker. Then wire that breaker to the exterior of your house to an appropriate 30 or 50 amp outlet. Use 10/3 wiring for 30amp. This allows you to use the 240V twist lock outlet on your generator to get full power. When you want to use the generator, you plug it into this exterior outlet and turn on your generator breaker. This allows your entire panel to be energized. Obviously you cant run it all, so u just cut on what you need. You have to turn off your main breaker too. If not, you generator will energize your power companies grid. A worker may assume a line is dead, but it would be energized by your generator. He would not be happy. My summer plan: run all but heat pump and cool with cieling fans. Winter: run all but heat pump and use fireplace and blankets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,324 Posted September 13, 2018 Flo -ride- ah Travis Barker made "Low" pretty damn awesome 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,324 Posted September 13, 2018 If a storm surge is headed our way? I'll just drive up Pikes Peak a little bit. I absolutely love watching the race every year, (on Teevee) but those focks are are crazy. Much like Isle of Man TT on the street bikes,,,They are more crazy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porkbutt 861 Posted September 13, 2018 i dont pay much attention but this dgby fella is kinda retarded or something...right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted September 13, 2018 I'm no electrical engineer, but I don't think they rewire a whole house to hook up a generator.My parents house has two generators. They are connected to natural gas lines. It comes on automatically when the power fails. One powers vital systems (refrigerator, kitchen in general, heat pump) the other powers the rest, and can be turned off if you wish (for example, if it is above freezing, you can lose the pool pump to conserve gas. If it is below freezing, you need to keep that water moving.) They live out in the woods, and it often takes days for power to come back out there. So they just live as always and have a mofo of a gas bill when that happens. I can buy $50k. Im sure their system costs near that. The generators are huge, and its 9k sq ft, so its a b!tch to heat and cool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,083 Posted September 13, 2018 i dont pay much attention but this dgby fella is kinda retarded or something...right?Only half way. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,639 Posted September 13, 2018 Man, this sounds pretty scary. Trump was just briefed on Florence and he broke the news to the nation. Turns out this hurricane is " tremendously big and tremendously wet." Huh, water is wet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 4,556 Posted September 13, 2018 But does Serena Williams look pretty from space... She's much prettier because it's so hard to discern her features. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 4,556 Posted September 13, 2018 You get to know generators really well in the Army going in the field all the focking time, doubly so when you're the parts clerk responsible for ordering repair parts and triply so when the generator mechanics are your friends. Now, I forget so much but it's imprinted on me how big and noisy they were and how frequently they'd break down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites