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Just like Ford vs Kavanaugh; YES.

 

The same MSM won't cover the biggest criminal activity in American history (the FISA spying, Fusion GPS, DNC/HRC/BHO all implicated) yet they'll go all in based solely on a dubious story put out by a foreign govt.

 

 

awwww....why'd you do that....I was hoping to catch a SJW in that bait... :bench:

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Of course you believe what the media tells you despite no evidence......Russia Collusion, Kavanaugh, Elizabeth Warpath Warren, this story....

 

Please point to where I said I believed any of that. I posted in the Russia Collusion and Kavanaugh threads enough that if I said it, you should be able to find it. As for Elizabeth Warren, I could give two shi1ts about her so I have not posted at all. This story, I believe. It's funny that in this instance you need the Prince to admit wrongdoing in order to believe it but you've already got Hillary convicted of killing Seth Rich.

 

I also find it a bit convenient that any time there's a story that paints those you love to defend in a bad light it's a liberal media conspiracy. All the while believing and repeating without question the things that make the left look bad.

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Right, so this contradicts that he died 'during interrogation'.

 

The whole story is suspicious as fock but people believe it because the MSM is reporting it. Just like the Russia narrative, etc.

Even the Saudis are willing to admit that the guy died accidentally under their questioning. And that's their best possible spin. But not good enough for Good Ol filthy! Trump could tell him that the guy stabbed himself to death 47 times and hed believe Trump before hed believe anybody else. Fyuck this guy drinks and bathes in the Kool-Aid! LOL

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http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/10/17/rogue-saudi-killers-story-wont-pass-muster-outnumbered-latest-jamal-khashoggi

 

From the article:

"The idea that these are rogue Saudi security agents who thought in a NATO country they could kill a dissident, dismember him and then claim the Saudi government somehow wasn't behind it? That just doesn't pass the common sense test," said Harf.

 

 

Note: This is from Fox News and not the corrupt conspirators in the liberal media.

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The Clinton foundation got 10 million from the Saudis. Maybe they could help out getting to the bottom of this?

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Are you insane, at least replace that name with some kind of code....you do not want to be on their "list".....

Oh spit. I forgot.

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The Saudis got caught being savages. This was premeditated without question. They sent a hit team in after setting a trap for him. They knew he would feel safe in Istanbul at the embassy. Within mins he was being tortured and dismembered by the hit team.

 

 

No way that the story about his Iphone is true. I know this. Everyone else knows this. It is a plausible explanation that works for someone not paying attention. The Turks had to reveal some sources in order to get the Saudis to admit to this. An insider at the embassy? Listing devices pointed at the embassy? It pointed out areas where you can go without satellite coverage. This is not something that the Turks are going to be happy about or take lightly. They are not known for being level headed people and to have the Saudis use their country to orchestrate this plot is going to leave them seething.

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Even the Saudis are willing to admit that the guy died accidentally under their questioning. And that's their best possible spin. But not good enough for Good Ol filthy! Trump could tell him that the guy stabbed himself to death 47 times and hed believe Trump before hed believe anybody else. Fyuck this guy drinks and bathes in the Kool-Aid! LOL

 

Link?

 

There was a NYT or WaPo article saying Saudi MAY admit it...............more horsesh!t from you just repeating something as if it's the truth.

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Link?

 

There was a NYT or WaPo article saying Saudi MAY admit it...............more horsesh!t from you just repeating something as if it's the truth.

Whats your theory? Dude just walked into the embassy and hopped into a wormhole, never to he seen again?

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Whats your theory? Dude just walked into the embassy and hopped into a wormhole, never to he seen again?

 

Thanks to the last two years, whenever I see the MSM jumping over themselves to push something (while not covering things that damage their political party i.e. Democrats) I am skeptical.

 

I typically like to see some evidence prior to wanting sanctions levied against a country. Oh, you don't have any of that? Maybe wait for an actual investigation then.........

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No theory then?

 

My theory is that the Saudi monarch ordered this, not thinking it through well enough. He is a less skilled Putin. I think the Saudi's bring these clowns in and charge them, fake some trial and punishment, these guys likely get out of jail on the sly.....the Saudi monarch learns a lesson here, his mea culpa ends up being the release of some political prisoners or something....

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Thanks to the last two years, whenever I see the MSM jumping over themselves to push something (while not covering things that damage their political party i.e. Democrats) I am skeptical.

 

I typically like to see some evidence prior to wanting sanctions levied against a country. Oh, you don't have any of that? Maybe wait for an actual investigation then.........

 

So if the media reports it, you are skeptical. If the media doesn't report it, you never know about it..... So in the end, you live in a world in which nothing ever happens.

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So if the media reports it, you are skeptical. If the media doesn't report it, you never know about it..... So in the end, you live in a world in which nothing ever happens.

Except whatever the guy who has more documented lies than any president in history tells him is happening.

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So if the media reports it, you are skeptical. If the media doesn't report it, you never know about it..... So in the end, you live in a world in which nothing ever happens.

Reporting isn't "pushing". They are clearly pushing a narrative here, and enlightened people get skeptical.

 

Perhaps you can explain why it is important for America to jump into this one before the facts have been presented.

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Archduke Ferdinand was not a citizen of the US and was assassinated in another country by some other group in an area of the world where there is already tension. Who cares? No big deal.

 

As a world leader, you put some pressure on the Saudis on behalf of another ally so that you can at least avoid escalation or similar situations. Even more so in a world economy, we cannot be purely isolationist. Doesn't mean that we go in there and handle things, but we can't turn a blind eye either.

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Reporting isn't "pushing". They are clearly pushing a narrative here, and enlightened people get skeptical.

 

Perhaps you can explain why it is important for America to jump into this one before the facts have been presented.

 

Hypothetically, who could present the facts in this case that you'd believe?

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No theory then?

 

Like one of your theories:

 

Hillary was thoroughly investigated for numerous crimes and found innocent. Swing and a miss.

 

Trump colluded with Russians? Swing and a miss.

 

It's all a right wing conspiracy that The FBI/DOJ/CIA as well as foreign countries spied on the Trump Campaign to rig our election. Swing and a miss.

 

We need to believe Ford that Kavanaugh is a monster. Swing and a miss.

 

My theory...............I'll wait for some actual EVIDENCE to be presented to U.S. authorities before calling for sanctions.

 

 

So if the media reports it, you are skeptical. If the media doesn't report it, you never know about it..... So in the end, you live in a world in which nothing ever happens.

 

I'm skeptical of the rush to judgement that you seem to buy into ONLY when it's CNN/MSNBC and suits your political views.

 

Example: Please post a link to a CNN/MSNBC/etc........that's been covering Bruce Ohr/James Baker testifying against other former Obama officials. It doesn't suit their views so they don't report it. In the case of this missing journalist (upstanding Muslim Brotherhood member), they want sanctions against Saudi before the U.S. can even investigate. Sound familiar? Russian collusion?

 

Reporting isn't "pushing". They are clearly pushing a narrative here, and enlightened people get skeptical.

 

Perhaps you can explain why it is important for America to jump into this one before the facts have been presented.

 

Nailed it.

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Hypothetically, who could present the facts in this case that you'd believe?

The presented facts are he entered the consulate and no one has seen him since. I am on board with them.

 

Hypothetically, right now, why does the US have to be involved in this?

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As I have said many times on this board here before, it is the Saudis, not the Chinese nor anyone else, that holds the Ultimate Sword of Damocles for the United States.

 

All they have to do is start pricing their oil in the Yuan and not the dollar. And we are supremely fuked.

 

2002 called. They want their reasoning back.

 

The US is fracking for oil now. The world's biggest producer of oil is the US. We don't need the Saudis for jack sh*t anymore.

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2002 called. They want their reasoning back.

 

The US is fracking for oil now. The world's biggest producer of oil is the US. We don't need the Saudis for jack sh*t anymore.

We need them to keep buying arms from us. They buy more from us than any other country.

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2002 called. They want their reasoning back.

 

The US is fracking for oil now. The world's biggest producer of oil is the US. We don't need the Saudis for jack sh*t anymore.

yea. This is simply not true and here is why.

 

1. We have an arms deal that is worth north of 100 billion dollars with them. It's not like if that deal gets cancelled they are just gonna give up on the idea of buying that much arms. They WILL go to Russia. It's not even a question.

 

2. Despite the fact we produce a lot of oil they still have us over ...a barrel (see what I did there?) In the fact oil is pegged to the dollar. If they instead decided to peg it to the Yuan it would cause havock for our economy.

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yea. This is simply not true and here is why.

 

1. We have an arms deal that is worth north of 100 billion dollars with them. It's not like if that deal gets cancelled they are just gonna give up on the idea of buying that much arms. They WILL go to Russia. It's not even a question.

 

2. Despite the fact we produce a lot of oil they still have us over ...a barrel (see what I did there?) In the fact oil is pegged to the dollar. If they instead decided to peg it to the Yuan it would cause havock for our economy.

Dont forget were basically using them to fight a proxy war against Iran in Yemen.

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Dont forget were basically using them to fight a proxy war against Iran in Yemen.

yea but don't fool yourself. They hate the Yemanese. Any reason to fight them is gonna be reason enough.

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The presented facts are he entered the consulate and no one has seen him since. I am on board with them.

 

Hypothetically, right now, why does the US have to be involved in this?

 

I asked a hypothetical. Who needs to tell you what happened for you to believe it?

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I asked a hypothetical. Who needs to tell you what happened for you to believe it?

 

Conversely, do you always believe foreign govts version of events with no evidence provided? If that's the case, why believe Turkey instead of Saudi Arabia?

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At this point, what difference does it make?

In this case I agree. How is this America's problem?

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Yes, BUT, this was a journalist, so we have to pretend this is a crime against humanity.....

Bezos' journalist. By the way, Saudi Arabia still chops off people's hands in the town square. But Fock those people.
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This is a solid opportunity for CNN to strike at Trump, they aren't going to let this go to waste

And another chance for them to ignore that Hillary took big bucks from them and gave speeches to them. I guess they started with the barbaric behavior this year.

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