KSB2424 3,083 Posted December 21, 2018 I feel like you guys are just blowing in the wind, I'm here to help. Attached is the actual .PDF version of the National Budget approved by the House and the President. The first part is the overarching message from the POTUS. Worth the read to be informed. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjAuuXGrrHfAhWMZlAKHRZ8BaQQFjAAegQIChAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.whitehouse.gov%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2018%2F02%2Fbudget-fy2019.pdf&usg=AOvVaw2GJbZTDJ52lDeyZxSlSTi5 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,083 Posted December 21, 2018 The one thing I am vehemently against is this provision in the budget: Promoting School Choice. So many of America’s poorest children—especially African-American and Hispanic children—attend failing public schools that afford them little hope of fulfilling their great potential. That is why families should be free to choose the public, private, charter, magnet, religious, or home school option that is right for them. The Budget empowers parents, especially of our disadvantaged youth, to choose the very best school for their children. That sounds great when you read it.......but in practice gov't funded "charter" schools is doing the opposite. These schools have no reduced lunches or buses (transportation). Thus the truly poor families cannot send their kids there, leaving them in regular public schools while the middle class families leave public schools. I see it every day. There should be Public schools, with ALL the money going to make those the best they can be. Private schools are great, but they should exist on their own accord. This half-pregnant Charter school nonsense is terrible for communities and is actually segregating the communities. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted December 21, 2018 The one thing I am vehemently against is this provision in the budget: That sounds great when you read it.......but in practice gov't funded "charter" schools is doing the opposite. These schools have no reduced lunches or buses (transportation). Thus the truly poor families cannot send their kids there, leaving them in regular public schools while the middle class families leave public schools. I see it every day. There should be Public schools, with ALL the money going to make those the best they can be. Private schools are great, but they should exist on their own accord. This half-pregnant Charter school nonsense is terrible for communities and is actually segregating the communities. I knew this one was the one that would get the most attention. You want ALL the money going to public schools to feed and nurture poor kids, but the numbers show that their education is lacking. What exactly are public school priorities? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted December 21, 2018 Expanded budget for missile defense !! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,485 Posted December 21, 2018 The one thing I am vehemently against is this provision in the budget: That sounds great when you read it.......but in practice gov't funded "charter" schools is doing the opposite. These schools have no reduced lunches or buses (transportation). Thus the truly poor families cannot send their kids there, leaving them in regular public schools while the middle class families leave public schools. I see it every day. There should be Public schools, with ALL the money going to make those the best they can be. Private schools are great, but they should exist on their own accord. This half-pregnant Charter school nonsense is terrible for communities and is actually segregating the communities. As long as public schools are unionized they will not improve. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted December 21, 2018 I knew this one was the one that would get the most attention. You want ALL the money going to public schools to feed and nurture poor kids, but the numbers show that their education is lacking. What exactly are public school priorities? For some kids their only meal of the day is at school. I work with a few organizations that collect food to send home with those kids on the weekends in the hope that maybe.....just maybe....their parents will let them have some of it and they can eat over the weekend. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frank 2,144 Posted December 21, 2018 Do they have to call it the fock you government budget? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted December 21, 2018 The one thing I am vehemently against is this provision in the budget: That sounds great when you read it.......but in practice gov't funded "charter" schools is doing the opposite. These schools have no reduced lunches or buses (transportation). Thus the truly poor families cannot send their kids there, leaving them in regular public schools while the middle class families leave public schools. I see it every day. There should be Public schools, with ALL the money going to make those the best they can be. Private schools are great, but they should exist on their own accord. This half-pregnant Charter school nonsense is terrible for communities and is actually segregating the communities. Must suck to be a poor school bus driver Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,083 Posted December 21, 2018 What exactly are public school priorities? Take away all this funding for Charter Schools and put that towards making the existing public schools better. Infrastructure (new schools or upkeep), higher teacher pay (get the best), technology, on and on. If you want to go to a Private School that's great, but that is on your dime. It sounds great "School Choice" in theory, but I see it in my city. It's not good in practice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted December 21, 2018 Take away all this funding for Charter Schools and put that towards making the existing public schools better. Infrastructure (new schools or upkeep), higher teacher pay (get the best), technology, on and on. If you want to go to a Private School that's great, but that is on your dime. It sounds great "School Choice" in theory, but I see it in my city. It's not good in practice. Why? Because wanting the best for your own child is bad? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,083 Posted December 21, 2018 Why? Because wanting the best for your own child is bad? Of course you should be an advocate for your family / children. You have to play by the rules of the day. If there is a kickass Charter School you are sending your kids too, go for it. However some of us think and see beyond our own bubbles. Eventually not providing funding for the public schools (by sending billions to charters) will be the demise of public schools and.....eventually the Charter Schools will get larger, turning back into pubic schools. Surly you can see this will happen. It's not a good model for government funding of education, its going to eat itself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted December 21, 2018 Of course you should be an advocate for your family / children. You have to play by the rules of the day. If there is a kickass Charter School you are sending your kids too, go for it. However some of us think and see beyond our own bubbles. Eventually not providing funding for the public schools (by sending billions to charters) will be the demise of public schools and.....eventually the Charter Schools will get larger, turning back into pubic schools. Surly you can see this will happen. It's not a good model for government funding of education, its going to eat itself. Meh. Not nearly as important as building the wall. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trumpurethra 42 Posted December 21, 2018 But I thought Mexico was going to pay for the wall? Lol suckers. That sh!t ain't gettin built. Look, we have all seen the pie chart. 80% of government spending consists of (in order of cost) military, social security, unemployment and welfare, and medicaid/medicare. The other 20% of spending is broken up among several other departments at roughly 1-2% each. Basically, the only thing that matters is the big 4. As of 2018 numbers, we take in 3.4 trill and are spending 4.4 trill. So we take in roughly 75 cents for buck we spend. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to see you need to cut one of the biggies to make it balance. But..... Cut military and those people are in the private sector looking for work. Unemployment goes up. Take in even less than 75 cents. Cut social security....yeah right, never happen. Riots in the streets f it was even attempted. Welfare and unemployment, could look here but too much and consequences would be same as above mentioned social security. Besides, not a big enough slice so wouldn't be enough to balance it. Medicaid/medicare is just like social security. Also the smallest pieces of the pie when considered individually. So can't get there just by cutting one of these. But hey lets build a wall that the pres swore we wouldn't have to pay for but actually do. That sounds like a good idea. Idiots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,380 Posted December 21, 2018 I don't like school of choice. Idiots send their r3tarded kids to "good" schools and fock the good schools up. Good schools are made by the community. It's not money but parents and teachers who care. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,485 Posted December 21, 2018 Meh. Not nearly as important as building the wall. The US Government spends over $5 billion a day, this is not about money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted December 21, 2018 For some kids their only meal of the day is at school. I work with a few organizations that collect food to send home with those kids on the weekends in the hope that maybe.....just maybe....their parents will let them have some of it and they can eat over the weekend. Not denying that kids need food. Just denying that all tax money should go to "public schools". We have tried that for decades and results are getting worse. Particularly for minorities. Just like every other socialist program, it's proponents claim it will work, but only if there are no other options. What a joke. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,083 Posted December 22, 2018 The US Government spends over $5 billion a day, this is not about money. Troof. Democrats say they are for border security yet most support sanctuary cities and most always vote no to tougher immigrants laws. My opinion? If Obama wanted 5B in a 1T budget for extra border security the Dems in the Senate and all here would be all for it. But Orange Man Bad. We gotta fight!@&$! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 824 Posted December 22, 2018 My opinion? If Obama wanted 5B in a 1T budget for extra border security the Dems in the Senate and all here would be all for it. And my opinion, all the Republicans would be against it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,083 Posted December 22, 2018 And my opinion, all the Republicans would be against it. Some things yes. Not on border security. Youd be wrong. Theyd just vote yes and keep quiet not giving any credit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shorepatrol 1,737 Posted December 22, 2018 I don't like school of choice. Idiots send their r3tarded kids to "good" schools and fock the good schools up. Good schools are made by the community. It's not money but parents and teachers who care. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,083 Posted December 24, 2018 Ted Cruz has an idea. Dear Dems. The Republicans will take the provisioned 5B out of the budget so we can pass it and end the Shutdown. However, in return, we can use approx 14B of Mexican Drug Cartel money seized by the US (mostly from El Chapo) to go to Border Security. Seems appropriate and logical. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted December 24, 2018 Ted Cruz has an idea. Dear Dems. The Republicans will take the provisioned 5B out of the budget so we can pass it and end the Shutdown. However, in return, we can use approx 14B of Mexican Drug Cartel money seized by the US (mostly from El Chapo) to go to Border Security. Seems appropriate and logical. sorry we have to give that money back to them ..its theirs, like Iran Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,631 Posted December 24, 2018 For some kids their only meal of the day is at school. I work with a few organizations that collect food to send home with those kids on the weekends in the hope that maybe.....just maybe....their parents will let them have some of it and they can eat over the weekend. Bullshit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,890 Posted December 24, 2018 Trillion dollar deficit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 2,515 Posted December 25, 2018 Trillion dollar deficit. I find it funny you say this because I bet dollars to donuts that you weren't talking about the deficit AT ALL when your boy Obummer was in office. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bandrus1 413 Posted December 25, 2018 I find it funny you say this because I bet dollars to donuts that you weren't talking about the deficit AT ALL when your boy Obummer was in office. So what u r saying is you don't care now either Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 2,515 Posted December 25, 2018 So what u r saying is you don't care now either I do care, but back in the Obummer days you and your ilk were telling us the deficit was no big deal. What changed? Oh, that's right, you lost an election and your pre-elected Queen wasn't able to assume control. I'm guessing had she won, you wouldn't be bitching about a deficit today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bandrus1 413 Posted December 25, 2018 Correct. To the Victor goes the ownership Own it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,890 Posted December 28, 2018 Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump · Dec 27 Have the Democrats finally realized that we desperately need Border Security and a Wall on the Southern Border. Need to stop Drugs, Human Trafficking,Gang Members & Criminals from coming into our Country. Do the Dems realize that most of the people not getting paid are Democrats? Typical Low Road Donnie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted December 28, 2018 Typical spot on Donnie.fixed for accuracy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,890 Posted December 28, 2018 fixed for accuracy The level of class I would expect from a married guy who focks horse faced hookers without a condom. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,631 Posted December 28, 2018 The level of class I would expect from a married guy who focks horse faced hookers without a condom. Don't forget getting multiple women pregnant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites