MDC 5,890 Posted February 19, 2019 6 minutes ago, Drizzay said: Good for SD! Wow. Looks like Harper will be getting something in the 10 / 325 range. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,631 Posted February 19, 2019 40 minutes ago, kilroy69 said: Show me ONE 10 year deal that has EVER worked out? ONE No titles, one pennant, but Winfield was very good, except for missing a year with injury Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,563 Posted February 19, 2019 What a bunch of focking dummies Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted February 19, 2019 47 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said: Of the two, I think Machado is the better bet on a long term contract. Provides value in the field and at the plate as a middle-inf. Petco isn't going to help his numbers though. I don't even think there is a discussion. GG middle IF, 3rd basement, vs below average OFer. Is there a difference between them at the plate? i don't see it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,563 Posted February 19, 2019 44 minutes ago, kilroy69 said: Show me ONE 10 year deal that has EVER worked out? ONE Manny Ramirez Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,631 Posted February 19, 2019 I'd say Jeters contract worked out pretty good. Hell, he became a bargain eventually Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,116 Posted February 19, 2019 1 hour ago, posty said: Machado 1 hour ago, Mike Honcho said: Im guessing it's got to be his, no way he agrees to an option after 5 years. Just heard on MLB Network Radio that the Padres have the option after 5 years, not Machado. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,027 Posted February 19, 2019 Just now, TBayXXXVII said: Just heard on MLB Network Radio that the Padres have the option after 5 years, not Machado. If that's true, good for them...and Wow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,116 Posted February 19, 2019 16 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said: If that's true, good for them...and Wow. Yeah, I'm curious to hear if that's the "official" wording. It was just the hosts commenting on it, so it's possible they misspoke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porkbutt 861 Posted February 19, 2019 i wouldn't mind if they both get kapernicked and never play again. can't stand hearing about them any more....its brutal here in philly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,296 Posted February 19, 2019 57 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: Just heard on MLB Network Radio that the Padres have the option after 5 years, not Machado. If that is true, sorry for the misinformation... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,027 Posted February 19, 2019 ESPN take on Machado signing... Who is the biggest winner of Machado joining the Padres? Miller: Cleveland. With the White Sox failing to sign Machado, Cleveland can now be pretty sure no other team in the division will win even 85 games this year. Terry Francona can start resting his players for the playoffs ... now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted February 19, 2019 12 minutes ago, posty said: sorry for the misinformation... Good first step. What about all your other posts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,563 Posted February 19, 2019 Yeah because signing Machado gives you an extra 20 wins, easy :wacko: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,116 Posted February 19, 2019 24 minutes ago, posty said: If that is true, sorry for the misinformation... It's not a given that you were wrong. It was just the talking heads on the show that said it. They weren't claiming that was a fact. I'm still waiting for an official announcement. They also said that the deal was apparently front loaded too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,116 Posted February 19, 2019 12 minutes ago, TimmySmith said: Good first step. What about all your other posts? He might not be wrong. I haven't heard anything "official" yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,579 Posted February 20, 2019 10 hours ago, kilroy69 said: Show me ONE 10 year deal that has EVER worked out? ONE ARod, btw, the reason why most 10 year deals don't work out, is because the players usually sign them when they are already 29-30, give 3-4 great years, 2-3 solid, and then its down hill Machado will only be 35 at end of it, and even if hes on the downhill, thats fine, hes also got incentive to go ball busters, cause he could get another contract at 31 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,890 Posted February 28, 2019 Reports are Bryce Harper signed with the Phils. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,631 Posted February 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, MDC said: Reports are Bryce Harper signed with the Phils. Do you need a scouting report on him too? Lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,296 Posted February 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, MDC said: Reports are Bryce Harper signed with the Phils. 10-year, $330 million Definitely not worth it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,890 Posted February 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, posty said: 10-year, $330 million Definitely not worth it... Harper was always going to be overpaid but players of his caliber don’t become available often and he will make the Phils lineup much better. Also - its only money, and it’s not even my money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted February 28, 2019 We will all be here in 10 years to talk about the failure of this deal. And of course complain about President Don Jr. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,116 Posted February 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, posty said: 10-year, $330 million Definitely not worth it... 13 years for $330M, no opt-outs. To me, that's a smaller deal than both Arenado and Machado. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,563 Posted February 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, TimmySmith said: We will all be here in 10 years to talk about the failure of this deal. And of course complain about President Don Jr. :d Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,296 Posted February 28, 2019 9 minutes ago, MDC said: Harper was always going to be overpaid but players of his caliber don’t become available often and he will make the Phils lineup much better. Also - its only money, and it’s not even my money. Very true... It should be interesting to see how the Phillies are now... The NL East is getting interesting sans Florida... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crackattack 513 Posted February 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: 13 years for $330M, no opt-outs. To me, that's a smaller deal than both Arenado and Machado. Didn't Machado's contract have opt outs after 5 years? Or something like that. Phillies are on the hook until Harper is 39-40 y/o. Fock that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,563 Posted February 28, 2019 Just now, crackattack said: Didn't Machado's contract have opt outs after 5 years? Or something like that. Phillies are on the hook until Harper is 39-40 y/o. Fock that. It was Machado's opt out. Which he won't ever take Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted February 28, 2019 300mil? Most absurd thing ever heard. No one is worth that. The mlbpa is the best ever. Any athlete who can play baseball is retarded if they decide on football instead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,027 Posted February 28, 2019 11 minutes ago, MDC said: Harper was always going to be overpaid but players of his caliber don’t become available often and he will make the Phils lineup much better. Also - its only money, and it’s not even my money. The thing is...I don't think he's a 'play of that caliber', and I'm not alone in that at all. Not wishing bad luck on the dude or your team, but I think this is going to go down as one of the worst deals ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bier Meister 1,513 Posted February 28, 2019 As a Giants fan I am mixed about this. They are in rebuild and he would not have a lot of protection (unless signing him could have drawn other players). Pac Bell is not a hitter's park. Harper would underperform and get heavily criticized for it. I would be happy if the Giants would pursue good-to-very good players for what they would have spent on Harper. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,992 Posted February 28, 2019 Mike Trout >>> Bryce Harper Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,563 Posted February 28, 2019 Just now, Cruzer said: Mike Trout >>> Bryce Harper And the Angels blow too. One player doesn't a baseball team make, this isn't the NBA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,116 Posted February 28, 2019 13 years for $330M is around $25M per year. That's less than what Pujols got the last 2 years and less than what he's going to make over the next 3. He waited all this time and got screwed is what happened. Initial reports were 12 years for $350 from the Nats and 10 for $350 from the Phils. He ended up getting less than both Machado AND Arenado. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,116 Posted February 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, edjr said: And the Angels blow too. One player doesn't a baseball team make, this isn't the NBA Very true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,296 Posted February 28, 2019 Just now, TBayXXXVII said: 13 years for $330M is around $25M per year. That's less than what Pujols got the last 2 years and less than what he's going to make over the next 3. He waited all this time and got screwed is what happened. Initial reports were 12 years for $350 from the Nats and 10 for $350 from the Phils. He ended up getting less than both Machado AND Arenado. Yeah just heard 13 years instead of ten... Harper gets a $20 million signing bonus, a $10 million salary this year, $26 million in each of the following nine seasons and $22 million in each of the last three years. None of the money is deferred. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,890 Posted February 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said: The thing is...I don't think he's a 'play of that caliber', and I'm not alone in that at all. Not wishing bad luck on the dude or your team, but I think this is going to go down as one of the worst deals ever. Maybe, we will see. I think his impact in the lineup on guys like Hoskins and Franco is going to be massive. And if he doesn’t come close to being worth the $ there’s no salary cap and nothing to prevent the Phils from going after Trout in a couple years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,116 Posted February 28, 2019 LOL, 7 years ago, Pujols got $24M per year for 10 years... Harper only got $1M more today... and he's 6 years younger than what Pujols was. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bandrus1 413 Posted February 28, 2019 12 minutes ago, Cruzer said: Mike Trout >>> Bryce Harper way to go out on a limb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,631 Posted February 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, MDC said: Maybe, we will see. I think his impact in the lineup on guys like Hoskins and Franco is going to be massive. And if he doesn’t come close to being worth the $ there’s no salary cap and nothing to prevent the Phils from going after Trout in a couple years. Big fan. Lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bier Meister 1,513 Posted February 28, 2019 9 minutes ago, MDC said: Maybe, we will see. I think his impact in the lineup on guys like Hoskins and Franco is going to be massive. And if he doesn’t come close to being worth the $ there’s no salary cap and nothing to prevent the Phils from going after Trout in a couple years. Segura and McCutchen, arrieta..... looks good on paper Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
