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I hear a lot of people complaining about the OT rules and I get it. I, too, would have loved to see Mahomes get the ball and try to respond. But games could go on for way too long, so I would propose having to go for the 2 point conversion.

 

The other issue I heard was, "the coin flip decided the winner."

 

So why not.....

 

Have a rule in place that says the team that held the lead the longest OR the team that LAST had the LEAD OR the team with the greater TOP gets the ball in OT???

 

I think I would go with the team that last had the lead, gets to kick or receive in OT. They would obviously choose to receive the ball.

 

I think this is a great idea that at least eliminates the "coin flip decided the winner" complaint. I also think this will lessen the complaint about not seeing both teams offenses in OT. If you want the ball in OT, now you know the rules. And it's not decided on a coin flip.

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I think ot is great like it is.

 

KC stop Brady.

 

They couldn’t game over.

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If fair chance flip of the coin isnt fair enough, Make it part of home field advantage ... that way, the fans in the stadium get what they came to see and the road team has greater incentive to go for the win during regulation. My concern with team who had the lead or greatest time of possession is that it may systematically lend itself to giving the offense the advantage of a tired defense ... as was the case for NE vs ATL in the Super Bowl and perhaps this championship game too.

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Best of 3 Rock Paper Scissors, Head coaches face off. I think Belichek would've schooled Andy Reid in that scenario

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Actually liked the old sudden death the best myself.

 

Old school football.

 

Back when you could hit a qb because the Qb had to go down and go down hard.

 

Back when WRs where scared to go over the middle.

 

Good ol time football.

 

Flags will be soon, and the game will be played with dice.

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Actually liked the old sudden death the best myself.

 

Old school football.

 

Back when you could hit a qb because the Qb had to go down and go down hard.

 

Back when WRs where scared to go over the middle.

 

Good ol time football.

 

Flags will be soon, and the game will be played with dice.

You say that you dont watch the games so why do you care about hitting? :)

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Actually liked the old sudden death the best myself.

 

Old school football.

 

Back when you could hit a qb because the Qb had to go down and go down hard.

 

Back when WRs where scared to go over the middle.

 

Good ol time football.

 

Flags will be soon, and the game will be played with dice.

Sounds good to me but then I suspect Brady wouldnt be so effective. Hmmmmm.

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It is fine the way it is... The Chiefs just had to learn to play defense some and stop Brady... They couldn't, they lost...

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You say that you dont watch the games so why do you care about hitting? :)

Hey maybe you don’t see very good.

 

Don’t watch the games, but like I posted, I do watch the highlights.

 

Now let’s dummy up a little bit.

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Sounds good to me but then I suspect Brady wouldnt be so effective. Hmmmmm.

 

You might be right.

 

And that’s why I liked it.

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The best way to have an overtime, in the playoffs only, is to play OT like you're starting a new game. ONE coin flip. Play with 4th Q rules the whole way. If after the first OT quarter is over you're still tied, you switch sides and keep playing. If after 2 OT's you're still tied, "half ends", switch sides, kick off, and keep playing. Rinse and repeat. No need to make this harder than what it needs to be. The solution is VERY SIMPLE!

 

If the game needs to go that long, then so be it. I have a very hard time believing that any OT will extent past 2 periods.

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The best way to have an overtime, in the playoffs only, is to play OT like you're starting a new game. ONE coin flip. Play with 4th Q rules the whole way. If after the first OT quarter is over you're still tied, you switch sides and keep playing. If after 2 OT's you're still tied, "half ends", switch sides, kick off, and keep playing. Rinse and repeat. No need to make this harder than what it needs to be. The solution is VERY SIMPLE!

 

If the game needs to go that long, then so be it. I have a very hard time believing that any OT will extent past 2 periods.

The league just won't do that. Maybe for playoffs only but I doubt it. They are all about player safety until money is to be made. If they are going to walk that line with the safety issues it will be for extra games in the year.

 

It really isn't sensible to have the chance to play 1.5 games or longer, TV doesn't set up for it. It isn't fantasy world. It is not a very simple solution. Many other factors you are not thinking about.

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If ot isn’t sudden death like it was for long, and it worked.

 

Then the new system is the next best thing.

 

Don’t need to play a whole qtr for ot.

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The league just won't do that. Maybe for playoffs only but I doubt it. They are all about player safety until money is to be made. If they are going to walk that line with the safety issues it will be for extra games in the year.

 

It really isn't sensible to have the chance to play 1.5 games or longer, TV doesn't set up for it. It isn't fantasy world. It is not a very simple solution. Many other factors you are not thinking about.

 

I'm only talking about the playoffs. The regular season they can keep as it is. As for player safety, this isn't an issue. There are ties in the NFL, so they don't seem to have a problem with playing 10 minute quarters with no satisfactory outcome, so what's 5 more minutes of guaranteed play. Also, the ONLY reason they cut the OT back from 15 to 10 minutes was for TV (with the 1 / 4 / prime time games), and because of Thursday night games. As I said specifically stated in my original post and the first sentence here, I'm only talking about the playoffs. In the playoffs, there's a minimum of 7 days rest with no chance of a short week, so player safety is not an issue. Plus, let's be realistic, the odds of that happening (multiple OT quarters), are VERY slim, bordering on impossible that there would be a need for 2 overtime periods. In addition to that, there's virtually no "timing" issue in the playoffs. There's only 2 games each day. Realistically, they only need to separate the games by 15 more minutes... 30 if they want to be safe. That's not a big deal with the networks or timing. All that would happen is that the NFL will just have more time dedicated to broadcasting. What'll happen is that the first game will start a half hour earlier and the late game will finish 1 hour later. Everyone knows there's only fluff on each network before NFL coverage starts, so that's not an issue.

 

Again, the solution is simple. The networks can easily accommodate a different schedule for 2 Saturday's and 3 Sunday's in January. So no, there aren't "many other factors [i'm], not thinking about."

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Hey maybe you dont see very good.

 

Dont watch the games, but like I posted, I do watch the highlights.

 

Now lets dummy up a little bit.

I know. I was just messing with ya.

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I think ot is great like it is.

 

KC stop Brady.

 

They couldnt game over.

This ^.

 

Mother of God dude converted three straight 3rd and tens on that final drive. That may have been the worst playoff defense ever. It's a miracle the kid sent it to OT.

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This ^.

Mother of God dude converted three straight 3rd and tens on that final drive. That may have been the worst playoff defense ever. It's a miracle the kid sent it to OT.

Lol, Amen.

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I'm only talking about the playoffs. The regular season they can keep as it is. As for player safety, this isn't an issue. There are ties in the NFL, so they don't seem to have a problem with playing 10 minute quarters with no satisfactory outcome, so what's 5 more minutes of guaranteed play. Also, the ONLY reason they cut the OT back from 15 to 10 minutes was for TV (with the 1 / 4 / prime time games), and because of Thursday night games. As I said specifically stated in my original post and the first sentence here, I'm only talking about the playoffs. In the playoffs, there's a minimum of 7 days rest with no chance of a short week, so player safety is not an issue. Plus, let's be realistic, the odds of that happening (multiple OT quarters), are VERY slim, bordering on impossible that there would be a need for 2 overtime periods. In addition to that, there's virtually no "timing" issue in the playoffs. There's only 2 games each day. Realistically, they only need to separate the games by 15 more minutes... 30 if they want to be safe. That's not a big deal with the networks or timing. All that would happen is that the NFL will just have more time dedicated to broadcasting. What'll happen is that the first game will start a half hour earlier and the late game will finish 1 hour later. Everyone knows there's only fluff on each network before NFL coverage starts, so that's not an issue.

 

Again, the solution is simple. The networks can easily accommodate a different schedule for 2 Saturday's and 3 Sunday's in January. So no, there aren't "many other factors [i'm], not thinking about."

 

What?. All it takes is a another tie at the end of the 1st OT to need 2 OT periods. The chance of a tie after one quarter is "slim" and almost impossible?

 

First of all, the game takes a huge physical toll. There is also the drama of sudden death. Another consideration is that, if the first teams scores a TD, the other team would have the advantage of going for it on all 4 down (regardless of field position) because they know they HAVE to score. That is a luxury the first team didn't have. The chance of another tie is fairly good.

 

I think the team that wins the toss, wins the game about 52% of the time. Essentially, that is one extra win about every 50 games. That is the problem we're trying to solve?

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What?. All it takes is a another tie at the end of the 1st OT to need 2 OT periods. The chance of a tie after one quarter is "slim" and almost impossible?

 

First of all, the game takes a huge physical toll. There is also the drama of sudden death. Another consideration is that, if the first teams scores a TD, the other team would have the advantage of going for it on all 4 down (regardless of field position) because they know they HAVE to score. That is a luxury the first team didn't have. The chance of another tie is fairly good.

 

I think the team that wins the toss, wins the game about 52% of the time. Essentially, that is one extra win about every 50 games. That is the problem we're trying to solve?

 

Yeah, what I said was right. The system is fine the way it is and it doesn't really need to be changed, so your overly dramatic "That is the problem we're trying to solve" (as if you have any say in it), is pointless. Oh, and yes, the odds ARE slim - and bordering on impossible - that there would be a need for multiple overtime periods if they played out a full quarter. Why do I say that? Because since 2012 (the first non-sudden death season), there have been only 7 ties. That's 7 games that needed a second OT period in a sample size of 784 games. To which, not one of those games featured 2 teams who had winning records at the end of the season. In other words, 0.89% of the games played in the last 7 seasons needed a 2nd OT period.

 

So, considering that less than 1% of all games in the last 7 years needed a 2nd OT, 0.0% of those games had featured 2 teams with a winning record, and 0.13% (only 1), of the games had 2 playoffs teams (the Panthers were 7-8-1 division winners in 2014)... I'm going to call those odds "near impossible". Can it happen? Sure. I mean, there have been 4 teams in NFL history who've made the playoffs with a losing record, so stuff can happen. But the likelihood is "slim".

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I propose an NFL.com poll.

After the end of regulation there is a poll posted on NFL.com.

It will remain open for 10 minutes and the team that wins gets the ball.

It's overtime people, if a team thinks it's unfair, win in regulation.

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Yeah, what I said was right. The system is fine the way it is and it doesn't really need to be changed, so your overly dramatic "That is the problem we're trying to solve" (as if you have any say in it), is pointless. Oh, and yes, the odds ARE slim - and bordering on impossible - that there would be a need for multiple overtime periods if they played out a full quarter. Why do I say that? Because since 2012 (the first non-sudden death season), there have been only 7 ties. That's 7 games that needed a second OT period in a sample size of 784 games. To which, not one of those games featured 2 teams who had winning records at the end of the season. In other words, 0.89% of the games played in the last 7 seasons needed a 2nd OT period.

 

So, considering that less than 1% of all games in the last 7 years needed a 2nd OT, 0.0% of those games had featured 2 teams with a winning record, and 0.13% (only 1), of the games had 2 playoffs teams (the Panthers were 7-8-1 division winners in 2014)... I'm going to call those odds "near impossible". Can it happen? Sure. I mean, there have been 4 teams in NFL history who've made the playoffs with a losing record, so stuff can happen. But the likelihood is "slim".

 

You're an idiot.

 

They stop playing when a team scores in OT. The game doesn't have a chance to end in a tie. You can also throw out all those games that were not ties as it just skews the stats. When there IS a tie - all it takes is both teams scoring the same amount of points in a single quarter. Those are slim odds to you?

 

LOL... "bordering on impossible"

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Yeah, what I said was right. The system is fine the way it is and it doesn't really need to be changed, so your overly dramatic "That is the problem we're trying to solve" (as if you have any say in it), is pointless. Oh, and yes, the odds ARE slim - and bordering on impossible - that there would be a need for multiple overtime periods if they played out a full quarter. Why do I say that? Because since 2012 (the first non-sudden death season), there have been only 7 ties. That's 7 games that needed a second OT period in a sample size of 784 games. To which, not one of those games featured 2 teams who had winning records at the end of the season. In other words, 0.89% of the games played in the last 7 seasons needed a 2nd OT period.

 

So, considering that less than 1% of all games in the last 7 years needed a 2nd OT, 0.0% of those games had featured 2 teams with a winning record, and 0.13% (only 1), of the games had 2 playoffs teams (the Panthers were 7-8-1 division winners in 2014)... I'm going to call those odds "near impossible". Can it happen? Sure. I mean, there have been 4 teams in NFL history who've made the playoffs with a losing record, so stuff can happen. But the likelihood is "slim".

Im not saying your math is off. But you clearly have no idea how to apply it.

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