Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted February 7, 2019 https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/428958-poll-voters-want-the-government-to-provide-healthcare-for Just 13% want Medicare for all if it means ending private insurance. So Americans agree with Trump on Wall (72%) and disagree with Dems on free healthcare if it takes their plans away. What will their message be in 2020? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,642 Posted February 7, 2019 24 minutes ago, Brad GLuckman said: I just want a moderate Democrat that doesn't play identity politics. They will have my vote in '20. And does this democrat also ride a unicorn? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brad GLuckman 518 Posted February 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: And does this democrat also ride a unicorn? Ha, I know. Not the way the party is headed. I will most likely throw my vote away on 3rd party again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,125 Posted February 7, 2019 33 minutes ago, Brad GLuckman said: I just want a moderate Democrat that doesn't play identity politics. They will have my vote in '20. $50 says you’re voting democrat either way. You’re attempting to pander to the righties here by saying “I’m not one of the crazy ones” it doesn’t matter who they roll out, they can count on your vote. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porkbutt 861 Posted February 7, 2019 weed, tattoos, colored hair, lip piercing, socialism, infanticide and the total eradication of gender. in a nutshell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brad GLuckman 518 Posted February 7, 2019 15 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said: $50 says you’re voting democrat either way. You’re attempting to pander to the righties here by saying “I’m not one of the crazy ones” it doesn’t matter who they roll out, they can count on your vote. I've never voted Democrat for President in my life. Last year I voted third party. I would say I am far from a lock to vote Dem this time around, even though I continue to move left on most issues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,125 Posted February 7, 2019 Just now, Brad GLuckman said: I've never voted Democrat for President in my life. Last year I voted third party. I would say I am far from a lock to vote Dem this time around, even though I continue to move left on most issues. I don’t see how anyone can even consider a Democrat in 2020 if you love America. The way they dragged Kav threw the mud, the handling of the Russian investigation, the hypocrisy. Even if they do put up someone who appears to be moderate it’s just a wolf in sheep’s clothing. They’ve made it very clear what they want to turn America into. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted February 8, 2019 Last election I wanted Trump to win because I knew it would be funny and I love nihilism. I wanted the controversy. Now that we have it, I want Democrat to win 2020 for the same reason. The upheavel from the vocal right will be huge. It will be the same thing as the crazies freaking out about Trump only the conservative version of it rather than the liberal. I don’t give a flip about the issues, I just like seeing outrage both fake and real. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brad GLuckman 518 Posted February 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said: I don’t see how anyone can even consider a Democrat in 2020 if you love America. The way they dragged Kav threw the mud, the handling of the Russian investigation, the hypocrisy. Even if they do put up someone who appears to be moderate it’s just a wolf in sheep’s clothing. They’ve made it very clear what they want to turn America into. The alternative is Trump or 3rd party, so I am keeping options open. The only guarantee is that I won't vote Trump. There are reasonable, moderate Dems out there. So far, none are running. As far as I can see, they are just trying to prove which one is the biggest SJW. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted February 8, 2019 First, you must understand the roots of the democratic party are in an organization known as Tammany Hall. What was Tammany Hall? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tammany_Hall Tammany Hall, also known as the Society of St. Tammany, the Sons of St. Tammany, or the Columbian Order, was a New York City political organization founded in 1786 and incorporated on May 12, 1789, as the Tammany Society. It was the Democratic Party political machine that played a major role in controlling New York City and New York State politics and helping immigrants, most notably the Irish, rise in American politics from the 1790s to the 1960s. Tammany Hall was a political machine. They were powered by the growing immigrant community in New York City. They protected and defended the rights of immigrants to win votes. When elected, they quietly cut through red tape and legislative roadblocks to get immigrants jobs and win the favor of the business elites. So they had a two-pronged core of immigrants and business leaders. Tammany Hall arguably lost influence as the demographics of the nation changed from a rural one to an urban one. When America was mostly a rural nation, the tactics wielded by Tammany Hall were only effective in very localized areas with large urban populations like New York City. Once America had large urban centers coast-to-coast, Tammany hall was phased out and usurped by the national Democratic party bosses who employed the exact same tactics on a national scale. FDR led the charge to nationalize the effort. Originally, Tammany Hall drew power from a large Irish Catholic immigrant population, which drove the democratic party from the early 18th century all the way up to JFK. But once immigrant demographics shifted towards latinos and nonwhites, the immigrant tactics had to shift as well. But the democratic party has always been an immigrant party first and foremost. To kill the democratic party, you build the wall and make it harder to immigrate to America. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,642 Posted February 8, 2019 90% of areas with a large foreign population vote democrat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,485 Posted February 8, 2019 The Democrats believe the American Dream is: The Government will take care of you! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted February 8, 2019 48 minutes ago, Ray Lewis's Limo Driver said: "Hello darkness........." referring to Democrats.............I thought this was going to be about their blackface proclivities. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,033 Posted February 8, 2019 We stand for the same thing Republicans stand for, when we have to walk from one place to another. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,640 Posted February 8, 2019 19 hours ago, Brad GLuckman said: I just want a moderate Democrat that doesn't play identity politics. They will have my vote in '20. With the current crop of candidates crapping the bed, a lot of people are keeping their powder dry for Biden. Right now, he does look like the adult in the room. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,640 Posted February 8, 2019 You know, I have to agree. How could anybody go with the Democrats on healthcare when the Republicans have such a great plan? they had the grandpa from duck dynasty on Fox business News the other day as there rather than expert on healthcare. You know the guy, he's heard of looks like hillbilly gandalf. Boys hes a smart Republican! Because we watch Trumpland TV so you don’t have to, today we watched Duck Dynastyemperor Phil Robertson poo-poo the idea of government-provided health care because, in his estimation, there is no need for medical services in the physical world. After all, according to Robertson, he’s guaranteed “eternal health care” given to him by God. I already have health care. It’s given to me by God. Eternal health care. I’m guaranteed to be raised from the dead. I have life and immortality given to me by God through Jesus Christ... The temporary reprieve is not worth it. I'm telling [Kamala Harris], I have eternal health care, and it's free! Doctors can give you a little temporary reprieve, but they cannot save you from physical death. The doctors who treat you, they die, too. Fox Business Network host Neil Cavuto, to his credit, pushed back by noting that “people need health care.” “I didn’t have health care for 50 years,” Robertson replied. And he apparently doesn’t see much see use for it now, either. -------- The fact that Fox business even booked this guy says everything. Even Neil cavuto just stared at him like what the fuuck? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted February 8, 2019 12% of Americans support Medicare for all if it means they lose their private plans. Repubs' plan is go back to private health care instead of universal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,640 Posted February 8, 2019 24 minutes ago, Filthy Fernadez said: 12% of Americans support Medicare for all if it means they lose their private plans. Repubs' plan is go back to private health care instead of universal. If by private, you mean your personal relationship with your Lord and Savior Jesus Christ... LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted February 8, 2019 42 minutes ago, Filthy Fernadez said: 12% of Americans support Medicare for all if it means they lose their private plans. Repubs' plan is go back to private health care instead of universal. Private health care gone? It would take 15 years to bring back the infrastructure to restore private health care companies once the government healthcare fails in their attempt to run the system. What a bunch of fvcking noodle-brains for them to want to control every aspect of freedom. What a fvcking bunch of dlcks that only care about setting policy so they personally can run it at the expense of the people who will be toiling at work day and night so they can get healthcare based upon government judgement of whether it's worth it or not. Is the patient beyond their life expectancy date? Does a brain scan cost more than what the government rules say is worthy of getting one for someone with brain cancer? Of course, half the population will not want to work because they won't need to. They will just want to live off of government handouts. Kiss your freedom gone if the left takes things over. Anything at all. They feel they are the only ones that have the ability to make you happy. You, are not capable to do it for yourself. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,642 Posted February 8, 2019 Straight white males not wanted. Will make exception for cucks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted February 9, 2019 Jacky Rosen tells Kyrsten Sinema to 'watch your a$$' when she's shown applauding American success at SOTU. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,381 Posted February 9, 2019 Have we caught her making some sense? Some rambling, but I think we can all agree on her general premise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted February 9, 2019 12 hours ago, Filthy Fernadez said: Jacky Rosen tells Kyrsten Sinema to 'watch your a$$' when she's shown applauding American success at SOTU. Jacky needs to be taken out to pasture. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,640 Posted February 13, 2019 Go with booker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites