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I can't believe we are only on one page.

 

ETA: Figures.

 

Also, can we post images now?

 

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52 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

I doubt that's second part is true.  I'm sure that's true for a small portion, but I'm willing to bet that most guns were never purchased legally.

You would be wrong. Here is a lengthy article on gun purchases with links:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/gun-sales-how-dangerous-people-get-weapons/

Most guns used in crimes were originally purchased legally, then gifted / sold / stolen until they ended up in the hands of a criminal. An ATF report I read a while ago said by the time a gun is used in a crime it has most likely been owned by 7-8 individuals before falling into the hands of the criminal. 

This should come as no surprise since most states don’t require a background check for private gun purchase and many don’t ever require a gun owner to report a lost or stolen firearm.  

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I wonder how many criminals/gang members do  background  checks and or register their guns?  :music_guitarred:

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This is where I guess I end up like my dad and the Japanese. And really  the entire generation like my father and the Japanese.

 

I'm not proud of it, but some of the first thoughts in my head are:

1. This reminds me of that Pittsburgh synagogue shooting. when everybody was just screaming and crying and there were major reports on the vast uptick in anti-semitic crime and hate speech!

... Yeah, except that was the first f****** synagogue shooting in America in a long time. And the average age of the victims was like 85. You pretty much did them a favor.

But the Jews love to be victims. To use today speak, there is great agency in being a victim! Reminds me of when Madoff scam got uncovered. I remember one specific old Jewish lady from Boca literally screaming " this is just like the Holocaust all over again! " Um, no it really isn't lady.

And now we see the same thing. Various Brown skins talking about how there's so much hatred towards Muslims and blah blah blah.

Somebody do me a favor and do a quick count of the number of shootings in Christian churches versus mosques? I'll hold my breath and wait. Go fuc yourself.

Yeah, and we won't even get into the number of Coptic Christians and their places of worship that have been literally bombed over the years. or, do yourself a favor and look up Garissa Kenya.

 

2. It's really hard to get up in arms about this when I know for a fact that on any given year at the annual Hajj pilgrimage, the Muslims trampled hundreds and sometimes thousands of their own during their holiest religious ceremony.

Compare this to win the pope visited the east coast of America. We had Christians packed into literally zoos and gymnasiums in people's basements and everywhere there was a place to lay down. Nary a single report of violence. That same year? Muslims trampled 2000 of their own in Saudi Arabia. Then more in the protests afterward. they obviously have a different view on the value of Muslim life.

Oh yeah, suspected cause of the stampede that resulted in the mass tramplings? Some bastard dared show up to worship his God while in a wheelchair. It was slowing down the other religious faithful. No s***.

So, I'm not celebrating over here. But pardon me if I think about the ten thousand kids who lost a parent on 9/11 before I give a stunning s*** about 50 Muslims at the bottom of the world.

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remember what i said.  the current stage in our path to civil war in the us is the left is looking for a "boston massacre".  it needs some major tragedy to occur somewhere that allows left wing extremists to make the call to riot and try to attack republicans in the streets, in their homes, etc.   We're right there on the tipping point of unrest.  That doesn't mean this shooting in new zealand is the thing that pushes it into riots, but it could be depending upon the reaction.

How about the NZ shooting lead to civil unrest in the US?  It could embolden a fresh wave of radical left wing marches and demonstrations across the US to ban guns.  And Antifa will be stronger this time around and could use physical force against their opponents in a heated moment, and it turns into riots.  and then the riots spread.

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23 minutes ago, riversco said:

remember what i said.  the current stage in our path to civil war in the us is the left is looking for a "boston massacre".  it needs some major tragedy to occur somewhere that allows left wing extremists to make the call to riot and try to attack republicans in the streets, in their homes, etc. 

Sandy Hook didn’t qualify? Or Orlando? Or Vegas? They are waiting on a better one?

And how come none of us left wingers know about the plan? Or is the thinking that if a few Dem extremists start kicking some conservative ass, people like I will join in? And how we will know who to attack? Sure, sometimes I can tell which way someone is likely to vote simply based on looks, but with a vast majority of people, I wouldn’t be confident enough to just start attacking. :dunno:

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18 minutes ago, cbfalcon said:

Sandy Hook didn’t qualify? Or Orlando? Or Vegas? They are waiting on a better one?

And how come none of us left wingers know about the plan? Or is the thinking that if a few Dem extremists start kicking some conservative ass, people like I will join in? And how we will know who to attack? Sure, sometimes I can tell which way someone is likely to vote simply based on looks, but with a vast majority of people, I wouldn’t be confident enough to just start attacking. :dunno:

Look for a red hat.  HTH

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59 minutes ago, riversco said:

remember what i said.  the current stage in our path to civil war in the us is the left is looking for a "boston massacre".  it needs some major tragedy to occur somewhere that allows left wing extremists to make the call to riot and try to attack republicans in the streets, in their homes, etc.   We're right there on the tipping point of unrest.  That doesn't mean this shooting in new zealand is the thing that pushes it into riots, but it could be depending upon the reaction.

How about the NZ shooting lead to civil unrest in the US?  It could embolden a fresh wave of radical left wing marches and demonstrations across the US to ban guns.  And Antifa will be stronger this time around and could use physical force against their opponents in a heated moment, and it turns into riots.  and then the riots spread.

I took a peek at CommieGuys and they are calling all Trump supporters white nationalists and on the verge of Secret Service interviews with their rhetoric (the CommieGuys, not Trump supporters)

It wouldn't shock me if one of Joe's posters pulls a Hodgkinson.

 

 

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32 minutes ago, cbfalcon said:

Sandy Hook didn’t qualify? Or Orlando? Or Vegas? They are waiting on a better one?

And how come none of us left wingers know about the plan? Or is the thinking that if a few Dem extremists start kicking some conservative ass, people like I will join in? And how we will know who to attack? Sure, sometimes I can tell which way someone is likely to vote simply based on looks, but with a vast majority of people, I wouldn’t be confident enough to just start attacking. :dunno:

Those attacks were all carried out by liberals.

Can't really start a riot when one of your own is the perpetrator.

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30 minutes ago, SenatorRock said:

I took a peek at CommieGuys and they are calling all Trump supporters white nationalists and on the verge of Secret Service interviews with their rhetoric (the CommieGuys, not Trump supporters)

It wouldn't shock me if one of Joe's posters pulls a Hodgkinson.

 

 

One of the CommieGuys wrote today that the NRA and it’s supporters celebrate when a mass shooting takes place. What a joke they are allowed to post stuff like that and sho nuff supported it.

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7 minutes ago, Mr. Hand said:

One of the CommieGuys wrote today that the NRA and it’s supporters celebrate and  when a mass shooting take place. What a joke they are allowed to post stuff like that and sho nuff supported it.

That site has turned me from pretty moderate to leaning right simply because of how loony all those guys are.  Legitimately dangerous to allow all their socialist ideas to become mainstream.

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1 hour ago, cbfalcon said:

Sandy Hook didn’t qualify? Or Orlando? Or Vegas? They are waiting on a better one?

 

This is a purely emotional process.  Its not like you draft out a precise map and say X will occur at Y time.  They don't know WHICH event will set off riots.  All they know is to keep trying on every event and hope that one is the "Big One" The NZ shooting has the potential to be the Big One.  If it is, you'll see a certain pattern unfold.

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Like I say, you will turn on Fox News one day after one of these events and you will see Antifa types shutting down city blocks and dragging white people out of their cars and homes and beating them in the street.  And ONLY THEN will the right wingers finally get up off their sofas and fight back.  Just remember I said that.  What I CANT predict is which one of these events will push this over the edge into madness.  That's an emotional decision by crowds.  But it is coming.

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24 minutes ago, Mr. Hand said:

One of the CommieGuys wrote today that the NRA and it’s supporters celebrate when a mass shooting takes place. What a joke they are allowed to post stuff like that and sho nuff supported it.

 

38 minutes ago, SenatorRock said:

I took a peek at CommieGuys and they are calling all Trump supporters white nationalists and on the verge of Secret Service interviews with their rhetoric (the CommieGuys, not Trump supporters)

It wouldn't shock me if one of Joe's posters pulls a Hodgkinson.

 

 

FBG is a left wing cult.  I wouldn't be surprised if some of their members inflict physical violence on right wingers at some point.  Its becoming a hate group.

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1 minute ago, riversco said:

 

FBG is a left wing cult.  I wouldn't be surprised if some of their members inflict physical violence on right wingers at some point.  Its becoming a hate group.

And yet....they deny that...it’s pathetic.

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9 minutes ago, riversco said:

This is a purely emotional process.  Its not like you draft out a precise map and say X will occur at Y time.  They don't know WHICH event will set off riots.  All they know is to keep trying on every event and hope that one is the "Big One" The NZ shooting has the potential to be the Big One.  If it is, you'll see a certain pattern unfold.

Well, with your prediction of “someday” and “the next one”, I suppose nobody can ever show you you’re wrong. So you’ve got that going for ya. 

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2 minutes ago, cbfalcon said:

Well, with your prediction of “someday” and “the next one”, I suppose nobody can ever show you you’re wrong. So you’ve got that going for ya. 

Well I don't know what to tell you?  Your desire for precise timestamps on these events isn't going to make them happen.  Its not like you can go to an NFL GM or QB or head coach and get precise timestamps on when they will win the division, conference and super bowl.  They set out a road map and go thru the process of trying to reach it.

We're at VERY HIGH risk of civil war.  And there's a road map.  But there's no guarantees.

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21 minutes ago, Mr. Hand said:

And yet....they deny that...it’s pathetic.

Someone needs to go get Shonuff out of there. He's been taken. Leave Newbie though. 

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5 minutes ago, riversco said:

 

We're at VERY HIGH risk of civil war.  And there's a road map.  But there's no guarantees.

No we aren’t.

But I see the allure in believing such things. The anticipation. You don’t have to wait for something to actually be real before you get to go ahead and blame the other side for it. And the belief in the event gives you a feeling of being righteous. It’s a very powerful mixture. 

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1 hour ago, cbfalcon said:

Sandy Hook didn’t qualify? Or Orlando? Or Vegas? They are waiting on a better one?

And how come none of us left wingers know about the plan? Or is the thinking that if a few Dem extremists start kicking some conservative ass, people like I will join in? And how we will know who to attack? Sure, sometimes I can tell which way someone is likely to vote simply based on looks, but with a vast majority of people, I wouldn’t be confident enough to just start attacking. :dunno:

Remember the Bernie  boy shooting up the Republicans at the baseball field?

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6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Someone needs to go get Shonuff out of there. He's been taken. Leave Newbie though. 

Are you fkn crazy?  Leave that troll over there.  That's where he belongs.

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3 hours ago, riversco said:

 

FBG is a left wing cult.  I wouldn't be surprised if some of their members inflict physical violence on right wingers at some point.  Its becoming a hate group.

I joined there a couple months ago to see what it was like. I made 1 post. It was about Cortez. I purposefully didn't make any outrageous statements. I simply commented on the article and then stated that she is a crazy socialist or something to that tune. 

Within 1 minute. Post was gone. Banned.

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50 minutes ago, sderk said:

I joined there a couple months ago to see what it was like. I made 1 post. It was about Cortez. I purposefully didn't make any outrageous statements. I simply commented on the article and then stated that she is a crazy socialist or something like that tune. 

Within 1 minute. Post was gone. Banned.

Yep.  That's a protected safe space.

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10 hours ago, bandrus1 said:

 

 

you are sick

OK

I've since learned more about this since I posted that. I do believe it happened, I hear there was a video that I haven't seen and don't want to, but the manifesto is obviously sketchy. I have my doubts on a lot of things that I don't want to get into.

So you're healthy if you believe everything you're fed.......is that how it works in your world?

 

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4 hours ago, RaiderHater's Revenge said:

has CNN mentioned at all this dude is a Eco Fascist

 

I just looked up eco-fascist, the bots have already edited the Wikipedia page, just a few hours ago, to claim that eco-fascist were Nazis and that a modern day example of eco-fascism is objecting to South American Indigenous people from illegally entering the US border.

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We are witnessing 1984 in real time.

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Evidently there are a few recent articles attempting to claim that Nazis and white nationalists are eco-fascists.

 

Fortunately the internet is forever. 

Here is a definition from 2009 (pre-OMB):

A person who uses the unsubstantiated beliefs and sentiments of environmentalism to impose their political will onto the scientifically illiterate public to inflate their megalomanic sense of power. Usually at the public's detriment.

Eco fascists are the de facto crusaders of what has become the religion of the American political left; that is environmentalism. They use the guise of dogooderism and the pretense of being some kind of environmental savior to justify their economically destructive actions much the same way Hitler did to justify his actions.

 

Hmmmm. Sounds an awful lot like the New Green Deal.

I predict the deranged left drop this New Zealand story like a hot potato now that it is their party that the shooter identifies with.

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This kind of crap just pisses me off. The left rushes to implicate Trump even though the guy says he's more lined with China. The trumps rushed implicate the left. Can't we just f****** agree that whether somebody has a manifesto or a bumper sticker or what the f*** ever, there is just some nuck futty fothermockers out there?

 

Jesus, at this rate, somebody's going to make the argument that Adam lanza killed a bunch of kids because he secretly wanted more gun control.

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2 hours ago, wiffleball said:

This kind of crap just pisses me off. The left rushes to implicate Trump even though the guy says he's more lined with China. The trumps rushed implicate the left. Can't we just f****** agree that whether somebody has a manifesto or a bumper sticker or what the f*** ever, there is just some nuck futty fothermockers out there?

 

Jesus, at this rate, somebody's going to make the argument that Adam lanza killed a bunch of kids because he secretly wanted more gun control.

Doesn't matter in the end. Because AOC is the boss. Just ask her.

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Trump Jr coming to the aide of Chelsea (crazy I know) because she condemned anti Semitic s<peech.  Some bright, young, NYU students are blaming her for the shooting

 

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13 hours ago, Big Guy said:

OK

I've since learned more about this since I posted that. I do believe it happened, I hear there was a video that I haven't seen and don't want to, but the manifesto is obviously sketchy. I have my doubts on a lot of things that I don't want to get into.

So you're healthy if you believe everything you're fed.......is that how it works in your world?

 

The things that make you go hmmmm......

John Podesta Was in New Zealand 5 Days Ago; Warned of ‘Major’ Cyber-Attack

https://newspunch.com/john-podesta-new-zealand-major-cyber-attack/?fbclid=IwAR3l2FcUJX1xLkTQkyq5IjTVDSvZVizY3yCg-DTFblnMJOxvqgwldDPJON0

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I read the guys manifesto. Honestly I don't really care about this situation. Bad goes down all over the world all the focking time, but nobody cares or there's selective outrage. Anyway I read it, because people said, to NOT to read it. People on both sides including Don Jr.

I encourage everyone to read what he wrote.

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11 hours ago, Big Guy said:

The things that make you go hmmmm......

John Podesta Was in New Zealand 5 Days Ago; Warned of ‘Major’ Cyber-Attack

https://newspunch.com/john-podesta-new-zealand-major-cyber-attack/?fbclid=IwAR3l2FcUJX1xLkTQkyq5IjTVDSvZVizY3yCg-DTFblnMJOxvqgwldDPJON0

Article by Leo Zagami - 16 Mar 2019

I would like to outline oddities that I have noticed in connection to the recent New Zealand terror attack and the presence of John Podesta until 24 hours before the tragic event.

Only seven days earlier, Hillary Clinton’s former presidential campaign manager was in New Zealand where he appeared in a T.V. interview conducted by Newshub, as the victim of “The world’s most notorious political hack.”

At the end of the interview John Podesta was said to remain in New Zealand to preside over what was described as “A Global Progressives Event.”

The event was called “The Path to Progress” :

https://www.eventbrite.com.au/e/john-podesta-the-path-to-pr…

However, in the same interviewJohn Podesta also said that New Zealand is a “big juicy target.”

Can this only be a coincidence or is there a macabre synchronicity connected with this tragic event? Only days after Podesta called New Zealand a “big juicy target” we have the Christchurch shooting.

During the same interview he also said that hacked information could be weaponized as fake news, and stated that, “Vladimir Putin must be sitting in the Kremlin saying this is the best return on investment I ever got – I’ve got a pliant President of the United States.”

Clinton’s manipulative campaign manager, John Podesta, working with the Vatican Illuminati as outlined with evidence in my latest book Confessions of an Illuminati Vol.6.66, said in the same interview that aired on the 7th of March 2019, that we should all be “very worried”by Russia and China.

Strangely enough, they are two countries he and his brother and business partner Tony love very much. Tony Podesta even made $500K lobbying for a Chinese firm convicted of illegal sales to Iran, and Podesta’s business dealings in gas, aluminum, uranium, and his banking in Russia, have often been pointed out.

John Podesta, who left for Australia the day before the “terrorist attack” occured, praised the “superstar” Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern saying to the press that: “She’s made an impression on the world. She’s somebody that people are paying attention to.

“Wow! You have our attention, as the cowardly acts of the New Zealand Mosque Massacre demonstrated to the world the biggest failure in the intelligence and security apparatus of the country, or a deliberate attempt to start a clash of civilizations.

Something is fishy about Podesta’s presence in New Zealand, remember he is an agent of the Illuminati and an asset of Jesuit and Vatican intelligence.

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