3 states trying to block Trump from 2020 ballot if he doesn't release tax returns...

[peenie 1,690]

2 minutes ago, sderk said:

I didn't vote for Trump because of his financials and tax status. 

I just voted for him on what he campaigned on. And that he wouldn't tear this country apart like obama did.

 

You feel Obama tore this country apart, how??? I'd argue the country was torn apart over Obama before he even took office.

[peenie 1,690]

Republicans fought Obama tooth and nail about every single thing and ruined what potentially could have been a great healthcare system. Anyway, no one has seemed to come up with a better plan.

Police brutality and corruption exists.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 2,498]

1 minute ago, peenie said:

Republicans fought Obama tooth and nail about every single thing and ruined what potentially could have been a great healthcare system. Anyway, no one has seemed to come up with a better plan.

Police brutality and corruption exists.

Socialized medicine has never ever been a great system. It hasn't even been a good system. It hasn't even been an okay system.

[posty 2,296]

2 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Socialized medicine has never ever been a great system. It hasn't even been a good system. It hasn't even been an okay system.

Correct...  Look at Canada last year:

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/categories/health-care-wait-times

Waiting Your Turn: Wait Times for Health Care in Canada, 2018 finds that the median wait time for medically necessary treatment in Canada this year was 19.8 weeks. Among the provinces, Saskatchewan has the shortest median wait time this year at 15.4 weeks, and New Brunswick again recorded the longest wait time (45.1 weeks).

I will pass on that "great" healthcare...

[sderk 1,040]

16 minutes ago, peenie said:

You feel Obama tore this country apart, how??? I'd argue the country was torn apart over Obama before he even took office.

He preached identity politics, hatred for the police, hatred towards the white man. He didn't acknowledge the distance between the slave days and current day and told white people who were never racist that they owe restitution. He was not American. He put muslims before Christians. His wife was never proud of America until her husband was voted in. His preacher was a well known America hater. He never did anything in his life except politics and he wasn't good at them in the end. He was only voted in because of the color of his skin. He came from the most politically corrupt state/city in the country.

And he's a socialist.

This is what tears a country apart as we have already seen happen.

 

[drobeski 3,061]

23 minutes ago, sderk said:

He preached identity politics, hatred for the police, hatred towards the white man. He didn't acknowledge the distance between the slave days and current day and told white people who were never racist that they owe restitution. He was not American. He put muslims before Christians. His wife was never proud of America until her husband was voted in. His preacher was a well known America hater. He never did anything in his life except politics and he wasn't good at them in the end. He was only voted in because of the color of his skin. He came from the most politically corrupt state/city in the country.

And he's a socialist.

This is what tears a country apart as we have already seen happen.

 

Solid post 

[Strike 3,950]

40 minutes ago, peenie said:

Republicans fought Obama tooth and nail about every single thing and ruined what potentially could have been a great healthcare system. Anyway, no one has seemed to come up with a better plan.

Police brutality and corruption exists.

[DonS 3,063]

Hands up, don't shoot. 

[cbfalcon 824]

1 hour ago, sderk said:

He preached identity politics, hatred for the police, hatred towards the white man. He didn't acknowledge the distance between the slave days and current day and told white people who were never racist that they owe restitution. He was not American. He put muslims before Christians. His wife was never proud of America until her husband was voted in. His preacher was a well known America hater. He never did anything in his life except politics and he wasn't good at them in the end. He was only voted in because of the color of his skin. He came from the most politically corrupt state/city in the country.

And he's a socialist.

This is what tears a country apart as we have already seen happen.

 

Change like 3 words, and this is a great description of Trump. As is, good lying post. 

[Mr. Hand 482]

1 hour ago, cbfalcon said:

Change like 3 words, and this is a great description of Trump. As is, good lying post. 

Go for it. Let’s see you do that.

[shorepatrol 1,736]

10 hours ago, NorthernVike said:

I would even challenge them.  Let it pass and then use it against Dems in the future.  It's not like he's going to win CA, WA and NJ anyway. 

 

Bring on the civil war. 

No chance it doesn't get to that within the next 50 years. It won't be pretty as one of the coasts is going to pay dearly. 

[sderk 1,040]

4 hours ago, cbfalcon said:

Change like 3 words, and this is a great description of Trump. As is, good lying post. 

Let's see what it looks like. Go ahead, change exactly 3 words, don't remove any others,  and state that it describes Trump.

[trumpurethra 42]

I don't understand the big deal with oompa Loompas returns?

1) Why is he not releasing them?

2) Who really gives a sh!t if he doesn't? We all know he is a paper tiger anyway. It is obvious.

[drobeski 3,061]

41 minutes ago, trumpurethra said:

I don't understand the big deal with oompa Loompas returns?

1) Why is he not releasing them?

2) Who really gives a sh!t if he doesn't? We all know he is a paper tiger anyway. It is obvious.

2) your sore losing crybaby cant get over she lost team.

[peenie 1,690]

If he's supposed to show his tax returns and doesn't yet made a huge stink about Obama showing his birth certificate (which he did do) isn't he being a lying hypocrite??

[posty 2,296]

Just now, peenie said:

If he's supposed to show his tax returns and doesn't yet made a huge stink about Obama showing his birth certificate (which he did do) isn't he being a lying hypocrite??

There is no rule requiring a presidential candidate to show tax returns...

[drobeski 3,061]

6 minutes ago, peenie said:

If he's supposed to show his tax returns and doesn't yet made a huge stink about Obama showing his birth certificate (which he did do) isn't he being a lying hypocrite??

Did you know that Barry wrote in the Harvard law review that he was from kenya ?

Also did you know that his biographer claimed in his biography that he was born in Kenya? 

The media leaves these facts out of the racism/trump started the birther movement fake news narrative.  

You're welcome for educating you on the REAL history of the narrative.  

Barry created it himself. 

 

[MDC 5,878]

51 minutes ago, peenie said:

If he's supposed to show his tax returns and doesn't yet made a huge stink about Obama showing his birth certificate (which he did do) isn't he being a lying hypocrite??

Don is a lying hypocrite in so many ways, it’s hard to keep track of all of them.

[cbfalcon 824]

1 hour ago, posty said:

There is no rule requiring a presidential candidate to show tax returns...

Is there a rule requiring a standing president to show his long form birth certificate?

[posty 2,296]

3 minutes ago, cbfalcon said:

Is there a rule requiring a standing president to show his long form birth certificate?

I don't know...  The long form birth certificate is the actual birth certificate itself, not a notarized version...  The short form should be sufficient, but a notary can be bought to notarize anything, so I am guessing that is why Trump (and others) wanted to see the long from one...

[Hardcore troubadour 12,596]

2 hours ago, drobeski said:

Did you know that Barry wrote in the Harvard law review that he was from kenya ?

Also did you know that his biographer claimed in his biography that he was born in Kenya? 

The media leaves these facts out of the racism/trump started the birther movement fake news narrative.  

You're welcome for educating you on the REAL history of the narrative.  

Barry created it himself. 

 

And I wonder if she knows that it was the Hillary campaign in 2008 that started the whole birther deal? 

[cbfalcon 824]

2 hours ago, posty said:

I don't know...  The long form birth certificate is the actual birth certificate itself, not a notarized version...  The short form should be sufficient, but a notary can be bought to notarize anything, so I am guessing that is why Trump (and others) wanted to see the long from one...

I don’t recall ever seeing any candidates birth certificate (besides Obama). I definitely don’t recall seeing someone that was already elected President he required to show a birth certificate before running for re-election. But my memory admittedly sucks at times. 

 

[Hardcore troubadour 12,596]

5 minutes ago, cbfalcon said:

I don’t recall ever seeing any candidates birth certificate (besides Obama). I definitely don’t recall seeing someone that was already elected President he required to show a birth certificate before running for re-election. But my memory admittedly sucks at times. 

 

Obama let it play out because it benefitted him. He could have put it to rest when the Hillary Clinton campaign first brought it up. Only soft minded sheep don't see this. Smarten up, you got played. 

[cbfalcon 824]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Obama let it play out because it benefitted him. He could have put it to rest when the Hillary Clinton campaign first brought it up. Only soft minded sheep don't see this. Smarten up, you got played. 

Wait, how did I get played? What did he do and what was the effect on me? 

[Hardcore troubadour 12,596]

28 minutes ago, cbfalcon said:

Wait, how did I get played? What did he do and what was the effect on me? 

You think Obama was a victim of racism because of the birther nonsense. He was a passive participant in it who had the ability to stop it immediately. Instead he milked it for his benefit. It's another example of him helping divide the country and get his side to point at the other and claim racism. 

[drobeski 3,061]

48 minutes ago, cbfalcon said:

I don’t recall ever seeing any candidates birth certificate (besides Obama). I definitely don’t recall seeing someone that was already elected President he required to show a birth certificate before running for re-election. But my memory admittedly sucks at times. 

 

I don't recall a candidate claiming at least 2 times he was born in another country, which would make him ineligible.  

Why are you ignoring the fact that it was Obama himself who claimed he was born in Kenya...and his biographer. 

What had trump claimed in the past, about himself, that would make him ineligible for office ?

[cbfalcon 824]

4 minutes ago, drobeski said:

I don't recall a candidate claiming at least 2 times he was born in another country, which would make him ineligible.  

Why are you ignoring the fact that it was Obama himself who claimed he was born in Kenya...and his biographer. 

What had trump claimed in the past, about himself, that would make him ineligible for office ?

Obama said he "came from Kenya" once in a speech. He didn't say he was born there. I understand the difference, therefore, and for other reasons as well, I know there isn't any point in taking you seriously here.

[cbfalcon 824]

17 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

You think Obama was a victim of racism because of the birther nonsense. He was a passive participant in it who had the ability to stop it immediately. Instead he milked it for his benefit. It's another example of him helping divide the country and get his side to point at the other and claim racism. 

Even if true, none of this indicates I was "played", which would seemingly mean I was manipulated into some result.

 

[Baker Boy 1,479]

21 hours ago, peenie said:

Republicans fought Obama tooth and nail about every single thing and ruined what potentially could have been a great healthcare system. Anyway, no one has seemed to come up with a better plan.

Police brutality and corruption exists.

How did Republicans ruin the ACA?

[MDC 5,878]

19 minutes ago, drobeski said:

I don't recall a candidate claiming at least 2 times he was born in another country, which would make him ineligible.  

Why are you ignoring the fact that it was Obama himself who claimed he was born in Kenya...and his biographer. 

 Link?

[sderk 1,040]

22 hours ago, peenie said:

Republicans fought Obama tooth and nail about every single thing and ruined what potentially could have been a great healthcare system. Anyway, no one has seemed to come up with a better plan.

Police brutality and corruption exists.

Private health insurance. Keep the federal government out of it. Better plan.

Black people kill other people at an alarming rate. Democrats are socialists and preach mob mentality. So what is your point here?

[Mr. Hand 482]

3 hours ago, sderk said:

Private health insurance. Keep the federal government out of it. Better plan.

Black people kill other people at an alarming rate. Democrats are socialists and preach mob mentality. So what is your point here?

Great post. The ACA was a disaster from the start. Republicans didn’t cause it to fail. Pennie is wrong again.

[Baker Boy 1,479]

Democrats Can’t Win Without Gaming the Constitution

[EternalShinyAndChrome 2,498]

1 hour ago, Baker Boy said:

Democrats Can’t Win Without Gaming the Constitution

Can you provide a link to the rest of the article?

Assuming that because it's such large font it must be the title to an article, right?

[posty 2,296]

5 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Can you provide a link to the rest of the article?

Assuming that because it's such large font it must be the title to an article, right?

I am guessing this is the link:

https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2019/03/20/democrats-cant-win-without-gaming-the-constitution/

[peenie 1,690]

18 hours ago, sderk said:

Private health insurance. Keep the federal government out of it. Better plan.

Young black men living in poor, segregated, disadvantaged neighborhoods kill other young black men living in poor, segregated, disadvantaged neighborhoods with guns at an alarming rate. Democrats and Republicans preach mob herd mentality. So what is your point here?

Private health insurance is expensive and tends to leave out people who are unemployed or under employed and did not cover people with pre-existing conditions. People were choosing to not to get health insurance at all because of the unaffordability and leaving the rest of us to have to pay for them when the need emergency care. ACA is not perfect but it's better than just private insurance and Medicaid.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

10 minutes ago, peenie said:

Private health insurance is expensive and tends to leave out people who are unemployed or under employed and did not cover people with pre-existing conditions. People were choosing to not to get health insurance at all because of the unaffordability and leaving the rest of us to have to pay for them when the need emergency care. ACA is not perfect but it's better than just private insurance and Medicaid.

Some folks decide not to get auto insurance and we all pay for that when they hit us. Should we pay for their car insurance too?

[Strike 3,950]

23 minutes ago, peenie said:

Private health insurance is expensive and tends to leave out people who are unemployed or under employed and did not cover people with pre-existing conditions. People were choosing to not to get health insurance at all because of the unaffordability and leaving the rest of us to have to pay for them when the need emergency care. ACA is not perfect but it's better than just private insurance and Medicaid.

I don't know if you are willfully misinformed or just like to spout untruths, but people are STILL choosing NOT to get health insurance because it's too expensive.  The only reason it became more affordable for some under the ACA was because WE are subsidizing their premiums.  And more and more people are LEAVING the ACA.  It is in what is called a death spiral because not enough young people signed up for it. 

 

 

[sderk 1,040]

2 hours ago, peenie said:

Private health insurance is expensive and tends to leave out people who are unemployed or under employed and did not cover people with pre-existing conditions. People were choosing to not to get health insurance at all because of the unaffordability and leaving the rest of us to have to pay for them when the need emergency care. ACA is not perfect but it's better than just private insurance and Medicaid.

You can change my reply all you want. It doesn't make me agree with it. I've been poor and lived in some pretty slummy parts of Hartford and a couple other cities. I showed my face in those neighborhoods as little as possible and somehow I never killed anyone because of it. I went without health insurance for a while when I was younger. because I didn't prioritize it.  Then I got scared of not having it so got a second job and/or found a job that offered it. It's not easy growing up. Life is not easy. I paid my own way through school, paid for all of my own needs, didn't have a kid before I could afford to, etc. I don't need the government to take care of me and tell me what I should do and think and demand me to live off of their expensive and limiting and life destroying "charities". Keep your socialism to itself.

People like AOC should be put behind bars for crimes against intelligence. Obama on the other hand is just a traitor to this country. Or can you even be a traitor if you are not a citizen of this country?

 

[peenie 1,690]

1 hour ago, sderk said:

You can change my reply all you want. It doesn't make me agree with it. I've been poor and lived in some pretty slummy parts of Hartford and a couple other cities. I showed my face in those neighborhoods as little as possible and somehow I never killed anyone because of it. I went without health insurance for a while when I was younger. because I didn't prioritize it.  Then I got scared of not having it so got a second job and/or found a job that offered it. It's not easy growing up. Life is not easy. I paid my own way through school, paid for all of my own needs, didn't have a kid before I could afford to, etc. I don't need the government to take care of me and tell me what I should do and think and demand me to live off of their expensive and limiting and life destroying "charities". Keep your socialism to itself.

People like AOC should be put behind bars for crimes against intelligence. Obama on the other hand is just a traitor to this country. Or can you even be a traitor if you are not a citizen of this country?

 

I was poor and never killed anyone either, what is your point? I have never NOT had health insurance. I don't think I deserve a pat on the back for not killing someone or having a job or having health insurance. Do you want to take a bow or do you feel you deserve an award?