2007 NFL Draft Weekend Team Thread: Kansas City Chiefs

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[cmh6476 1,025]

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[ArnieBragg 1]

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wtf is going on out there? I have LJ in a keeper of course. Will he really go to GB? Are the Chefs even gonna resign him before/after this year?

[Walter34 3]

Quinn falls to this pick?

[UncleHulka 0]

Quinn falls to this pick?

That's what I was thinking once Miami passed on him. But I didn't want to give the Chefs thread a pity bump.

 

btw... According to someone on NFLN, Quinn has lost 20 million so far due to the slide.

[Walter34 3]

That's what I was thinking once Miami passed on him. But I didn't want to give the Chefs thread a pity bump.

 

btw... According to someone on NFLN, Quinn has lost 20 million so far due to the slide.

 

No team behind KC needs a qb other than maybe Chi. It would be wise for Det, Cle or another of the qb hungry teams to trade in now.

[Fumbleweed 547]

That's what I was thinking once Miami passed on him. But I didn't want to give the Chefs thread a pity bump.

 

btw... According to someone on NFLN, Quinn has lost 20 million so far due to the slide.

 

True, but Drew Brees fell to the second and then got a fat contract because he played well. Ditto for Tom Brady and many others....

 

The bottom line is that franchise QBs get paid and then some. Become one, and Quinn will be just fine.

[Walter34 3]

True, but Drew Brees fell to the second and then got a fat contract because he played well. Ditto for Tom Brady and many others....

 

The bottom line is that franchise QBs get paid and then some. Become one, and Quinn will be just fine.

 

Not until 2011+ however.

 

Even still, he will get a 5 million dollar check which is nothing to sneeze at.

[Fumbleweed 547]

Not until 2011+ however.

 

Even still, he will get a 5 million dollar check which is nothing to sneeze at.

 

True. But, my point was that if Quinn develops into a solid NFL QB, he will get paid. Quarterbacks get paid if they're good.

[Chief71 0]

I'm pretty happy with the Dwane Bowe pick by the Chiefs. Too bad Carl Peterson told the world about his man love for Brady Quinn...maybe the Chiefs could've gotten the sweet deal that Dallas did for him

[Shox 0]

I love taking a WR with this pick. Prefered Meachem, but Bowe is a solid pick.

[cmh6476 1,025]

I'm pretty happy with the Dwane Bowe pick by the Chiefs. Too bad Carl Peterson told the world about his man love for Brady Quinn...maybe the Chiefs could've gotten the sweet deal that Dallas did for him

maybe he was throwin that out there to get someone to bite, so the players they really wanted were still there

 

 

Interesting to see so many players out there that could have filled a need (Staley, Branch, Meachem, Bowe) hopefully they picked the guy that turns out the best

 

 

And the McBride pick makes sense since the guy can play both DE and DT. Allen will be out 4 games cause he can't call a cab, so I could see for the first 4 games Hali, Boone, Reed/ Edwards & McBride on the other end if he can start from day 1.

 

Then once Allen comes back we'll have more flexibility and then the lineup with the most upside would be Hali, McBride, Boone & Allen

 

 

 

I do not want to see Eric Hicks sorry ass even make the team. I see the competition fro McBride at end while Allen is out being Jimmy Wilkerson

 

Top needs from this point become:

 

 

OT

CB

 

 

and getting a pick fro Green

[cmh6476 1,025]

The more I think about what the Chiefs have done, the more I like it.

 

I really think the Chiefs with their 1st 3 picks have upgraded the 3 weakest starting positions on the roster.

 

You can argue we still have a pressing need for a LT and a CB, but I'm not sure any guy we would have drafted would have cracked the starting lineup at those positions. Staley may have competed for the starting spot at RT, but some guys like Chris Terry or Will Svitek probably had just as good a shot at getting the starting nod as Staley would have.

 

At CB, I don't think anybody we could have taken could have beaten out Law or Surtain for a starting spot except for maybe later in the season.

 

With the 3 picks they have ,ade, we have a guy that will from the get-go challenge Samie Parker for the starting receiver gig opposite Kennison. And if Bowe is successful in landing the job, then the Chiefs by default also improve at the slot as that's probably where parker is better suited anyways.

 

With the 2 picks on the D-Line, the day many of us Chiefs have been longing for is probably here, the imminent release of crapasses Ryan Sims and Eric Hicks. This will likely be our rotation to begin the year now on the D-Line:

 

DEs: Tamba Hali, Jared Allen, Turk McBride, Jimmy Wilkerson

DTs: James Reed, Ron Edwards, Alphonso Boone, Tank Tyler

 

This already looks more encouraging than what we were dealing with last year if for no other reason there is now more competition all around the D-Line. This also gives Jared Allen now less leverage when asking for a new contract.

 

I know Kiper and many who are just on the outside looking in think maybe we would have been better suited going O-Line, but I don't see that as as much of a need as others might. We brought in McIntosh to be the starting LT, and that's where he is going to play. He's better than the human turnstile that was Jordan Black.

 

We have Pro Bowlers at LG and C with Waters and Weigmann. I think many of you will be surprised at how well John Wellbourne will play at RG taking over for Shields. Wellbourne is much better suited to play RG than he was RT.

 

And while there will be some competition at RT, I think we can find a guy to come in and play fairly well that's already on the roster. There are a handful of guys that will be in competition for that spot.

 

Our starting roster is probably now set, and tomorrow we'll be looking for guys that will be backups, special teams players and developmental players to groom into starting roles a year or two down the line.

 

Positions I see the Chiefs looking at tomorrow could be:

 

CB

OT

C/ OG

[dbcooper1 0]

What is up with picking the kicker from UCLA? Why not get Crosby out of Colorado? He has a stronger leg and is better at kickoffs from what I have read. Man, I don't know about this one. Has anyone heard anything on this guy from UCLA? If he is this good, we have locked up our kicking needs for the next 10 years when you figure in Colquitt at punter. Interesting draft so far.

[cmh6476 1,025]

What is up with picking the kicker from UCLA? Why not get Crosby out of Colorado? He has a stronger leg and is better at kickoffs from what I have read. Man, I don't know about this one. Has anyone heard anything on this guy from UCLA? If he is this good, we have locked up our kicking needs for the next 10 years when you figure in Colquitt at punter. Interesting draft so far.

 

 

isn't he the one that one the kicker challenge that was on espn a few times

 

 

also, see ya larry (tynes) :fy:

[cmh6476 1,025]

i think this guy nailed it:

 

This last one is kinda different you could say....

 

Chiefs’ Draft Report Card: Blah-Plus

By Jon Yoon | April 29th, 2007

 

Now comes that critical moment when every writer and blogger grades the Chiefs’ draft. Of course, my grade doesn’t mean anything. I don’t think Carl Peterson is going to go home and show this report card to his parents any time soon (or ever). Don’t worry, Carl. I’m pretty happy with your draft this year.

 

I gave the Chiefs a B+. More appropriately, it should be graded as “Blah-Plus.” The Chiefs didn’t do anything dazzling this year. Out of the entire draft, you’d expect two of the Chiefs to be starters on day 1: Dwayne Bowe and Justin Medlock. That’s not even fair, because Medlock is a kicker, which I don’t think can be graded by the same standards as other players (if you’re a punter or a kicker and you are drafted high, you will start right away). Arguably, Tank Tyler has potential to be a terrific starting tackle in this league, so he could represent a third starter to come from this draft.

 

The rest of the draft was “blah.” Maybe that’s a good thing. Why are people so obsessed with drafting players that are going to start right away? Or start at all? It’s amazing how many people think the Chiefs could have gone out and picked up a cornerback in the 2nd or 3rd round that was a guarantee to be the “cornerback of the future.” Folks, there is a lot of value in a player like Turk McBride, even if he contributes in a backup role. While I’m not wowed by the McBride pick, I look at this way: McBride will play. He will contribute. I don’t know if he has the upside to be a pro bowl starter, but I do believe he has the tools to be a productive rotational player, much like Chris Kelsay is for the Bills. He’s almost guaranteed to be a starting tackle in the nickel defense. He can wear a lot of hats for the team. He can be a situational run stuffer, perhaps taking Allen off the field on running downs. He will definitely be a guy who goes right after blockers and hits them in the mouth. I see him as a guy who comes in and brings his motor to wear down the offense. The hope is that he can make Hali and Allen look that much fresher.

 

Same deal with Kolby Smith. He’s obviously not going to be a starter over LJ. Few project him to even be a quality starter in this game. But he’ll be terrific as a rotational backup that can take some carries away from LJ and even serve as a valuable pass blocker or receiver. He reminds me a lot of Derrick Blaylock who may not have been good enough to be a starting running back, but man, I always thought he was extremely valuable to the Chiefs as a #2 back.

 

As for the other picks, I’ve already mentioned that I love the Dwayne Bowe pick. Justin Medlock is a surefire starter, but that was a pretty low-risk pick. Herb Taylor and Michael Allan are exactly what you would hope for in the very late rounds: they were the best available players on the board. They could turn out to be Jarrad Page but, more than likely, they’re camp fodder. Not a big deal if either of the two gets cut. As for Tank Tyler, he’s got tremendous upside, but the good news is, it’s hard for him to be any worse than the Chiefs’ current starting tackles and, at the very least, he can be a rotational guy. The great thing about defensive linemen is, even bad linemen can contribute to a team merely by being a body to rest a tired starter.

 

I know there will be experts and analysts out there who will grade the Chiefs poorly for this draft. They’ll rant and rave about how the Chiefs were stupid not to take an offensive linemen or a cornerback in the draft. Frankly, I don’t understand the logic. The Chiefs had needs all across the board. They couldn’t afford to be picky. This was a draft for the Chiefs where it made the most sense to pick the best available player at most positions. Can anyone really argue that the Chiefs need to improve their consistency in the pass rush? Can anyone really, truly say that the Chiefs were strong at the tackle position? I love it when analysts and experts harp on and on about one absolute need that a team must fill, and if a team doesn’t fill that need, it’s a lousy pick. Larry Johnson and Tamba Hali were lousy picks, in analysts’ minds, because they weren’t wide receivers. Funny, because the Chiefs probably aren’t regretting right now passing up on Rashaun Woods or Chad Jackson right now.

 

Nobody will talk about this draft, because it was very blah. But that doesn’t mean it was a bad draft. I’m glad to see the Chiefs are looking to add contributors to the team, rather than looking for the next big superstar with “upside” (ahem, Junior Siavii). I’m glad that the Chiefs are just as happy to add a valuable role contributor like McBride or, last year, Pollard, rather than attempting to find a starter with every first day pick (ahem, Eric Downing). Ever since Lynn Stiles left the Chiefs’ War Room and Bill Kuharich began taking a more leading role in personnel decisions, I’m seeing the Chiefs’ draft strategy shift their focus on adding quality contributors rather than superstars. That’s an approach Philly and New England usually take every year, and I think it’s worked out pretty good for them.

 

Every one of the Chiefs’ picks in the first five rounds is going to play a valuable role for the Chiefs in 2008. Fans don’t have to worry about them being developmental picks, or backups who may never see the field. They’ll play. They’ll contribute. Every one of them. And so, once you get past all the blah, you’ll come to realize that the Chiefs are a much better football team after the 2008 draft. For that, they deserve a B+.

 

 

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