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... ALL of you tone down the temperature and stop with the personal attacks or you won't be posting here much longer.

Funny how when Trump uses a figure of speech he's inciting violence, but when YOUR people use one they get a free pass. You guys and your double standards.

Credit where credit is due- this is the most level-headed I've seen you be here ever and is far more measured than some other takes from people you would normally align with here.

If this information about the shooter is true, then you're right. I can only speak for myself but I also jumped to conclusions and assumed it had to be a liberal. I was wrong. This certainly turns this situation on it's head as to why someone who looks like they were on the right side of the aisle would do this. The motivations are going to be key here, but I think your larger point about "chill the f@ck out" is on point. This situation in particular but in general both sides want to jump to conclusions about this stuff simply because tribalism. We all have to learn to amp it down and the rhetoric that comes from both sides has a lot to do with situations like this a lot of times, IMO. It can be all consuming and social media and media in general is responsible for amping it up to 11 and I'm just as affected by it as anyone else. This has to stop. We're supposed to be a beacon of light for the world and we can't have our elections marred by violence like tin-pot dictatorships around the world. This is exactly what our enemies want.

The democratic party just tried to assassinate its political opponent.

I’m about done with this place. I have never contemplated deleting an account anywhere in my entire life, but the last 24hrs I’ve read some of the most disgusting/disturbing sh!t in my my entire life. There was a time when something like this would bring people together, but the comments I’ve read show that this place is unsalvageable. It’s gross and sick and I want no part of it.

Libtards set this up. This was a planned effort by the dnc.

Former Senator Claire McCaskill recently declared on MSNBC that Trump is more dangerous than Hitler and Mussolini. This rhetoric is what got us here. https://x.com/endwokeness/status/1812307199470800897?s=61&t=oX9G006TUZ9alBtC5c4uMQ

If you genuinely believe he will be a "dictator on day one" and bring about "the end of our democracy", because your democrat leaders have repeatedly beaten you over your waterhead for years with that narrative, why would you not feel an obligation to take him out?

Going to bed now (it’s nearly 2am here.) Good night everyone. To anyone reading this who is a Trump supporter: I’m very sorry this happened. I know you’re angry but it’s not the fault of “the liberals” or “the left” or Biden or the media. It’s the fault of those who did it. If we could come out of this affair with a rejection of political violence, no matter who the target or instigator is, then that would be a positive. In the meantime I wish everyone here well, even those who don’t feel the same towards me.

Remember when Kathy Griffin held up a bloody Trump head? Libs have been pushing violence against Trump since before he was President.

Got to Edinburgh yesterday, going to the British Open next week. Explored Old Town Edinburgh today, fun place. Anything going on back in the states? Slow weekend I bet.

It will probably never happen but man if Biden and Trump did a joint message on TV basically saying "Tomorrow we will be political opponents, but today we are asking people to take down the verbal rhetoric." it would be cool.

Its a conundrum of an enigma inside a riddle.

The kid apparently is a registered Republican. All last night you and the MAGAturd moron collectively blamed the left and called this kid a liberal. I kept saying to remain calm and not jump to conclusions, and oh how you idiots continued to lose your minds, tell those who disagreed with you to get out of this thread and jump up and down like a bunch of mad rock apes, spewing all kinds of hate and misinformation. Well, I hope you enjoy my ass this morning along with tasting your eggs, bacon and coffee. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/trump-rally-shooter-identified-rcna161757 Nevertheless, we still have a long way to go before reaching any conclusions, but what I do know is that MAGAturds need to dial back all this angry rhetoric and learn how to be informed, reasonable, level-headed people who need to learn how to compromise and figure out ways for all of us to work together instead of dividing the fock out of this country and blaming everyone but themselves for the division. Time to isolate the extremes, which I've been saying for almost four focking years in this forum.

Accuracy is largely dependent on the shooter but yes. AR's are accurate out to 600-800 yards depending on the size of the target, length of the barrel, twist rate, type of optics, wind, etc. This shot would've been pretty easy. It was too close for wind or gravity to come into play. Accuracy at that distance is pretty much all on the shooter. His cold bore shot was on target but Trump turned his head at the last second.

Appreciate this post. I mean we don’t really know anything. But yeah this is very odd and this kid appears to be just another crazy person - like anyone who shoots into a crowd. They are terrorists plain and simple. They don’t stand for groups of people even if they one time posted a meme or donated to a person. We live in a free society and honestly am kind of shocked this doesn’t happen more often.

So this person was exactly what Republicans say isn't a problem. He honestly was probably some unhinged weirdo who felt Trump was too establishment for the Republicans.

This is about the time where digby says he is going to yo spend time living his best life with people who love him, and disappears for another 6 months.

If it was Biden, the GC righties would be in here trying to justify it somehow.

Thats the Thread-Winner right there.

It’s a legit question to ask how the gunman was able to get up there and take a shot. But it’s pretty pathetic to attack the secret service and claim they’re guilty of trying to murder Trump when you see in the video those heroic people jumping on Trump to shield him and putting themselves in the potential line of fire to walk him off the stage to safety. They did exactly what they were supposed to do and I think people ought to be ashamed of themselves for trying to impugn their integrity as they put their lives on the line

Yes, thank you for agreeing with me that Trump used the term bloodbath as a figure of speech. Like Biden saying to put Trump in the bullseye.

I saw that. It’s going to be a big story. I don’t know what’s going to happen, but I can safely say with 100% certainty that there will not be a good flow of truth and information as this investigation unfolds.

I’m sure you guys have already beaten this to death, but I’ll say this. If the left can’t handle Trump winning and this is what they resort to. Which is violence. You’re going to lose at that too.

Since this is a topic, do you not hear the rhetoric from Trump, MAGA folks? It’s not like this is a one way street. Hopefully everyone will chill the fock out now, this is a wake up call and gives everyone some perspective. It will probably happen for about a week, and then go back to normal.

Fock you pos - https://www.oann.com/video/pearsonsharpreports/democrats-call-for-trumps-assassination-after-supreme-court-win/

Video of someone perched on a roof isn't proof of shlt. Ever think that maybe he was part of SS or LE? This video means nothing.

Add 25 years and you just described squistion.

About the worst possible thing for our fragile democracy would be for Trump (or Biden) to be assassinated. This is terrible.

Eat a dik you miserable SOB. Isnt Saturday your gloryhole night??

Biden still hasn't issued a statement. Days after saying it was time to put a bullseye on Trump. I think Biden should be prosecuted for inciting this violence.

No we don't. We should stop pointing fingers and attributing blame until we have some facts.

i have his number, i just sent a text to verify

I’m not at all convinced that “this just handed Trump the election”. I suspect we’ll see a slight bump in the polls based on sympathy but that will go away in a few weeks. The dynamics of this election remain the same.

said no one ever

Only patriots wear American flags on days other than July 4th right?

Ran away again You’re making my morning entertaining but my son just woke up. So I’m gonna have to let you spend your entire day & night on here crying cause they missed trumps head & trying to defend the shooter No wonder noone likes the Retard Squad. But good luck. Unlike you, I actually have a wife, a child, a job, a house I own, paid off vehicle, new dream car for my wife, & in the process of buying a new home in a the 3rd best place to live in the US while also simultaneously buying a lake front property less than an hour away from the city at one of the biggest, nicest lakes in the state Have fun spending all your days on here. I’m out here living life & enjoying myself while you’re chronically online in mommy’s basement fighting with ppl online

This is a very sad day for the country. If you don’t get that I am not sure what to say.

I can only imagine it would take a nuclear bomb to elevate it to a "serious" attempt. "Nuclear bomb nicks Trump's ear in serious assassination attempt."

It's Reagan, dumbass. RONALD REAGAN.

This event will be a huge impediment for the Democrats. Their entire platform was predicated on rhetoric to portray Trump as some existential threat to Democracy. Now the Trump folks can attribute all that to this event. So the main weapon they were using is being negated. They cannot talk about better policies or outcomes, now they cannot vilify their opponent. This is a tough one for them moving forward.

Oh, the irony.

One of the best segments on WLIIA?

“Now we’ve both been shot in the face” - Stormy Daniels

Yes on both counts. Going with my son (he's 28). We have tickets for W practice round, and Th/F rounds. We just got a free upgrade to a club kinda thing for Wednesday -- covered, bar and food, TVs, restrooms, on the 18th hole. If we like it (and/or the weather looks bad for Th/F), I'll look into paying to upgrade those last two days, presuming I can. It's only money, why not enjoy it? Arriving in Edinburgh Saturday night, staying there until Tuesday morning. Got my Rick Steves guide and audio tours. Then renting a car and heading to the west coast for a tour of the Oban distillery, and check out the town/views of the Hebrides. Then drive down to Troon. May take a few jaunts into Glasgow for dinner during this part, which is pretty close. Drive back to Edinburgh Saturday -- not sure what we are doing that day, other than a pub to catch some of the tourney. I actually was just looking into going to Stirling castle and another distillery or two on the way back. Sunday we have tickets to the Edinburgh castle. Monday I fly back -- he is staying another week; his GF is flying out to meet him. I'm not sure exactly his plans, but they include staying in a castle somewhere. I wish I was staying another week, doing a 3-4 day golf package, and spending a few days in the highlands. Maybe next year. I'll try to remember to look for a poker chip marker. In fact, maybe I'll look for something small, like that, to send to whoever wins the EdEx next week. I certainly will be swag shopping.