thegeneral

Who knows they invaded when they did. It’s clear Putin doesn’t give a shlt what Donald thinks, he knows he’s a big talk, no action pussay when it comes to him.

He’s giving up like 20% of his country. That’s plenty. A big tough guy like Trump, who everyone knows Putin takes very seriously and is scared of, can say we are going to give Ukraine more weapons if you don’t agree to this. You know like he said when he was a candidate and was saying he could end it in one day. Presumably this stuff he said was supposed to be part of that process, right?

If it means Ukraine gets Article 5 like assurances then I think this is a good deal for Ukraine. The alternative is Trump dumps the aide and they get grind down further. It sucks but it is better than they have now. ETA: I don’t think Ukraine is going to get this. I don’t see why this isn’t being discussed as an outcome of this, but it’s not really being brought up much from what I see…they are screwed is the reality I am seeing, Such a tremendous and sad waste of the past few years.

NYC does have a fraction of the gun violence that other big cities have

This is why a big tough guy negotiator like we all know Trump is says Ukraine is in NATO or has Article 5 protections in this deal where Ukraine is giving land. Otherwise it’s just a surrender and the past few years were a complete waste of lives and money.

You worried about Russian money influencing politicians You should look into that.

The nukes deal wasn’t exactly as you described from what I have read. It was quite a bit more nuanced than that. But yeah I agree, whatever the terms are or how the relationship is described the West has to be involved in a manner that Russia cannot do this again. That’s a security agreement that is real and not just on paper.

Ukraine did give up their nukes but there’s a bit more to this from what I have read. They lacked control of them, they were aging and they were worried about how to support them, they received financial benefits, they received materials to start nuclear power plants, etc. This doesn’t mean the West didn’t screw them to some extent when Putin came sniffing around but we shouldn’t overlook they made a good deal when they gave up the nukes that went beyond just security.

The goal is to end the war and make sure this doesn’t happen again. This is the message from our State Department. How do you do that. Ukraine will have to give up some land. It’s a war they lost territory. Ukraine has to have reassurances this dickhead terrorist won’t do this again. Only way that happens is if Ukraine is tied to the West. Thats either NATO membership or some other form of protection that is tied to the West.

Zelenskyy drives a Bugatti!!1

“”The meeting was a 10 because we got along great” This was Trump’s takeaway. Vlad likes me!!!!

Nope. You asked some rando poster what his plan was for ending the war. Your prez said it would be easy, one day! Seems like he would have the plan. His plan is give Russia everything it wants. Why is this taking so long?

Are you saying Dementia Donald is just like Biden

Man the Russian troll farm has their hooks in you, Comrade! Time to flush out your Twitter account. A Bugatti

“I will end this war in one day, it will be so easy.” -DJT

Well that would be nuts. We do however tell Vlad, look comrade you got one over here. You can keep Donbas but the rest of Ukraine is now another piece of the NATO block. We know he won’t move on that: Otherwise this was all pointless and that shithead gets everything he wants.

Trump asked for ketchup.

Donald gave his idol a present How cute! These dummies left the meeting agenda on a printer

Without us it’s just Russia mowing down Ukrainians, expanding and setting up shop with a huge victory up against our side, the good guys. If we want to act like the big swinging dong in the world let’s back it up.

That would be a shame and a waste. Not sure what Don is waiting for if he’s just gong to surrender. Get it over with. Dude has wasted 8 months talking tough when we al know what he’s going to do.

If they took in Bulgaria and Turkey, Ukraine can slide right in. They have deadbeats like Spain. Ukraine at least brings in some moxie. They also are wanted by Russia so fock those fur hat wearing shitbags, worth it for that alone.

Ukraine can’t win…but Russia looks a lot more like the Cleveland Browns than the Eagles. Chumpinskis!

Just another story about some lowlife politician whoaring around. This one is some 3rd rate mayor.

No shlt they aren’t in NATO. Thats what I’m saying should come out of this. They are much better than Russia. Saving their country might perhaps even buy a little good faith. You think? We tell little Vlad that they are now part of the winning team. If he doesn’t like it tough titties.