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  1. hoffdaddy

    Anytime you run into an ex, it's a competition.

    My ex was a lying, manupulative, ho. But she was hot. I dislike her very much.
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    Favre pissed!

    I know you I've seen some bagging on Brady Poppinga, but it's not warranted. This guy missed all of his rookie year with an ACL, then came in and won the starting job this season. He struggled early, just like most rookies would, but came on as the year went on. He is much, much better than you're giving him credit for. With Hawk, Poppinga, and Hodge, I consider that a rebuild. They did it around the only stable piece, which was Barnett. This is a very good, athletic group.
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    Favre pissed!

    I'm getting sick of the discussion, but one last point. If you can go find me a Reggie White in free agency, I'm on board. Every other free agent you cited on that list likely came to Green Bay because Reggie White made the franchise legit. Tell me where that guy is in today's NFL? If you want an impact free agent, who is that guy? And don't try to even bring up Rison. He was only brought in because a team with an atual shot at a Super Bowl suffered WR injuries. Not the same situation at all. When Green Bay actually gets close to fielding a team with a legit shot at a Super Bowl, I'm guessing the Thompson regime may get a bit more aggresive. But even if they don't, I'll still believe they're building this team the correct way right now. And blind faith? I watched Thompson rebuild the LB group in two seasons. They are young and talented at the position. I wathced him rebuild the O line in two seasons. ###### all you want, but a top 16 O line ranking with three rookies and a first year guy playing all season, I'll take that. Oh, and did I mention how the interior D line has been transformed now? Harrel and Pickett will be a good tandem, allowing Jenkins to get KGB off the field more often. Not to mention that both Murphy and Jennings looked like very, very good second round WRs. Sorry, I look at this and see good progress. While others look at it and are pissed because Thompson isn't doing what Favre wants.
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    Favre pissed!

    No offense dude, but I'm not following your logic for one second. If they have a lot of holes to fill, that means they have a lot of options to pick from right? To me, that means one single player in the first round does not make or break a draft. You have to fill out your team at every possible position, so even drafting a TE in round one doesn't matter. Nor does drafting a WR in round 1. If I have ten holes to fill, and we'll say rounds 1-3 really are immediately helpful guys, then that leaves an awful lot of gaps from year to year. Once again, you can't rebuild your talent core in two-three years. Not completely anyway. Unlike you, it was pretty clear to me that Mike Sherman is the main reason that this team's core base of talent is depleted. You can blame Thompson all you want, but go check out how many of Sherman's picks are still in the league.....Cletidus Hunt? Torrence Marshall? Steve Josue? Joey Thomas? Ahmad Carrol? Fact is, the draft is supposed to set your team up for the long haul. Thank Sherman for making that impossible in Green Bay. And your last point contradicts everything else. When you start drafting based on need, that's when you get into trouble. Exhibit A: Ahmad Carrol and Joey Thomas. Everyone knew Green Bay needed Dbacks, so they took these guys to fill needs. How'd that work out? And that my friends, is the friggin point. It burns my ass to see impatient Packer fans sitting around thumping their chests about how Thompson isn't doing anything. Let's face the friggin' facts here folks. Randy Moss does not win Green Bay a Super Bowl in 2007 or 2008. He couldn't do it in his focking prime in Minnesota, and he sure as hell isn't going to do it in Green Bay with an over the hill Favre. The sooner all of us face reality, the better.
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    Favre pissed!

    Right on again.
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    Favre pissed!

    Please tell me this is a joke..... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Sherman Out of 27 draft picks made by Mike Sherman and Ron Wolf or Mike Sherman alone, only seven are ranked as at least white-chip players (rating of 5 or higher). The other 20 players could rightfully be judged as NFL failures. Only three of the 27 draft picks were rated as red-chip players or better (Javon Walker, Aaron Kampman, and Nick Barnett) while two others are good, mid-level white-chip players (Scott Wells and Hunter Hillenmeyer - now with the Chicago Bears). 2001 Draft (Mike Sherman and Ron Wolf): Here is an analysis of Mike Sherman and Ron Wolf's 2001 draft class. Each player is ranked on a continuum scale from 1 to 10, with 1 signifying a poor draft pick and 10 signifying a blue-chip player: (1=bust, 5=white-chip player, 8=red-chip player, 10=blue-chip player) Player (Position) Round Drafted (Overall) Ranking Jamal Reynolds (DE) 1 (10) 1 Robert Ferguson (WR) 2 (41) 3 Bhawoh Jue (CB) 3 (71) 2 Torrance Marshall (ILB) 3 (72) 3 Bill Ferrario (OG) 4 (105) 2 David Martin (WR) 6 (198) 4 2002 Draft (Mike Sherman): Here is an analysis of Mike Sherman's 2002 draft class. Each player is ranked on a continuum scale from 1 to 10, with 1 signifying a poor draft pick and 10 signifying a blue-chip player: (1=bust, 5=white-chip player, 8=red-chip player, 10=blue-chip player) Player (Position) Round Drafted (Overall) Ranking Javon Walker (WR) 1 (20) 9 Marques Anderson (S) 3 (92) 4 Najeh Davenport (FB) 4 (135) 6 Aaron Kampman (DE) 5 (156) 8 Craig Nall (QB) 5 (164) 4 Mike Houghton (OL) 6 (200) 1 2003 Draft (Mike Sherman): Here is an analysis of Mike Sherman's 2003 draft class. Each player is ranked on a continuum scale from 1 to 10, with 1 signifying a poor draft pick and 10 signifying a blue-chip player: (1=bust, 5=white-chip player, 8=red-chip player, 10=blue-chip player) Player (Position) Round Drafted (Overall) Ranking Nick Barnett (LB) 1 (29) 8 Kenny Peterson (DL) 3 (79) 3 James Lee (DT) 5 (147) 1 Hunter Hillenmeyer (LB) 5 (166) 7 Brennan Curtin (OT) 6 (212) 2 Chris Johnson (DB) 7 (245) 3 DeAndrew Rubin (WR) 7 (253) 1 Carl Ford (WR) 7 (256) 3 Steve Josue (LB) 7 (257) 2 2004 Draft (Mike Sherman): Here is an analysis of Mike Sherman's 2004 draft class. Each player is ranked on a continuum scale from 1 to 10, with 1 signifying a poor draft pick and 10 signifying a blue-chip player: (1=bust, 5=white-chip player, 8=red-chip player, 10=blue-chip player) Player (Position) Round Drafted (Overall) Ranking Ahmad Carroll (CB) 1 (25) 2 Joey Thomas (CB) 3 (70) 1 Donnell Washington (DT) 3 (72) 1 B.J. Sander (P) 3 (87) 1 Corey Williams (DT) 6 (179) 1 Scott Wells © 7 (251) 7
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    Favre pissed!

    I know you're not asking me directly, but if I may throw out my opinion. Thanks to Mike Sherman, Thompson essentially had to start from scratch. We're heading into year three with Thompson's players. My honest take is that it's a five year rebuild before we really see the returns. Just my opinion.
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    Favre pissed!

    Exactly. Oh and by the way, did you notice that Thompson has done a pretty good job in his career of finding NFL receivers after the first round? Darrel Jackson ring a bell? Terrence Murphy (injury ended a promising career)? Greg Jennings? And lest you all forget, Thompson did in fact draft a Tight End. Maybe not the one the fans were yelling for, but one who just two years ago was widely regarded as on of the best prospects in college football. http://www.thnt.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?.../704230312/1002
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    Favre pissed!

    I find it very, very amusing that people think Thompson has done nothing and doesn't spend money. Who were the starting linebackers on this team say...two years ago? He completely rebuilt this unit in two season with young, aggressive, talented players. Same goes for the offensive line. Looking at O line rankings (not an exact science, I know) Green Bay's young, sucky O line finished 16th out of 32 teams. With two or three rookies starting all year. Believe me when I say they'll be better this season. Have people been sleeping the last three seasons? Thompson said from day one they'll be strong up the middle. He's spent the money and draft picks on D line, O line, and Linebackers. Strong up the middle. That's the way it works. Favre can still make decent wide receivers look very good, so tell me again why the strong up the middle approach is dumb? Also, how many of you 'spend the money' guys were ripping Ted apart last year for signing Woodson? Fess up, you know who you are. Of course, this year it's different right? Last year he overpaid Woodson, and this year he's not spending enough. And I'm not sure how some of you consider 4-12 to 8-8 not improving?
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    Favre pissed!

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    Favre pissed!

    Basically, Thompson is in a lose-lose. If he comes in and moves Brett, everyone hates him. If he builds the team as he sees fit, everyone questions him (except me and a few others).
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    Favre pissed!

    Favre didn't rip it, XToday did. Just lumping all of it together in my post.
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    Favre pissed!

    I used to be a pretty staunch Favre defender, but he's crossed the line for the last time with me. Hey Brett, don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out. You are not the GM. And some please explain where all this offensive talent was? Who the hell is this offensive force for the first round? Greg Olsen? Nope. Robert Meachem? Not any better than Greg Jennings. I for one do not think that WR was a glaring need. TE, maybe I can buy that. But not WR. And Olsen at 16 would've been a bigger reach than Harrel is perceived to be (I don't hink Harrel was a reach). And did I see one legged D. Jackson mentioned? While I understand the sentinment, this isn't the same Jackson now. And frankly, this team is still farther away from a Super Bowl run than Randy Moss. So let's not pretend he's a magic cure. Kudos to Ted Thompson for building this team for the future, not for an attempted "one last run for Brett" campaign.
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    My FF Today

    Gentlemen, it's an excellent feature.
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    Packers haven't done sh*t

    Pressure from who? The only ones I hear complaints from are the fans. I would hope the people in charge have the nuts to stand up and say we believe in Thompson and his plan. My take, he needs at least five years to undo what Sherman did. At least.
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    Packers haven't done sh*t

    Can't let this nuggest slip by. Are you serious? Frankly, it would be a travesty if this guy lost his job. Period. Packer fans can ###### all they want about Thompson, I don't care. He's doing the things the right way. Had Mike Sherman not so completely destroyed the talent base on this team, it wouldn't take four years to build it back up the right way. If Thompson gets fired, which is what I think you're hinting at here, then I will have lost a lot of faith in the front office. That would be a terrible, terrible move.
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    Packers haven't done sh*t

    How many James Jones games have you watched? And I'm not just singling you out. Best I can do is read what the scouts are saying and form my own opinion. No one was bragging up Terrance Murphy, and many thought Greg Jennings would struggle some in the NFL. So yes, I trust Ted Thompson on mid round WRs. Darrel Jackson is another example of a Ted Thompson guy. Whether it was too early or not is up for debate. I doubt he would've lasted long on day 2, and Green Bay would've likely missed their chance at him. Most draft gurus pegged him as a fourth to seventh rounder. Factor in that Green Bay was looking to trade down in round 4, and Jones in the third does make some sense. It certainly isn't as bad as you're making it out to be. Did you hate the Jennings pick last year too in the second? Similar story there. Scouts had him all over the draft, he wasn't fast enough, and he was too short. It worked out. http://nfldraftguys.com/rankings/2007_Draf...kings_Bloom.php 22 James Jones San Jose State 6'1" 207 lbs. Jones is rugged, deceptively athletic, and rising up draft boards. He had an excellent North-South game and combine, and should be a nice 2nd day pick in a deep WR class. His punt return ability should ensure that he hears his name called in New York. NFL Comparison: Average Sized Brandon Marshall http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/profile.php?pyid=58386 Good information here. The bio reads similar to Greg Jennings in my opinion. He is a precise route runner, first and foremost. The big difference from Jennings is strength. Jones is a beast. He lacks breakaway speed, but he's good after the catch and wins jump balls.
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    Packers haven't done sh*t

    I don't know if I thought that about Harrell, but Thompson certainly did. And I can't say I blame him. If he is as good as Thompson thinks, then it was the right choice. Good run stuffing D tackles with athleticicm don't grow on trees. There are no more question marks around Harrell than there are around Allen Branch. It certainly appears that Denver was targeting Harrell, so I don't think he would've been there later. If that's two teams thinking that highly of him, I'm guessing there were more.
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    A hearty "Thanks!" to Fumbleweed!

    It was so good, "I want to dip my ball in it". Nice job guys.
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    Packers haven't done sh*t

    Agreed. I think we get way too caught up in this draft. The payoff won't be felt for a few years.
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    Packers haven't done sh*t

    Why take that chance? If Denver was stalking him around 21 or so, why move back and hope the guy is there. Take him when you have the chance. Plus, if you move back, who is to say someone else doesn't grab him? Too many variables for that trade back secnario. I agree completely. I still like him a lot. I agree, to an extent. They added some nice RB depth here. Again, Thompson has turned an aging, thin position into one of the youngest on the team. Hopefully it works out like the LB position did. First you say it's not about Favre, then you say Favre needs help. Great. Driver and Jennings are a nice 1-2 punch at WR. There's some 'ifs' around Koren Robinson, but if he comes back to the team, he's a solid #3. Add in some young, talented guys, and it's not as bad as it seems. At least in my opinion. And frankly, this team is farther away than Randy Moss from a Super Bowl. If that wasn't the case, don't you think Randy would've picked Green Bay? Moss wanted to play for the team with the best shot at the big game. That isn't Green Bay, even with Moss. I understand, but to me, there is just as much risk with trading for guys. Moss, Darrel Jackson, Joe Horn. All guys I talked about, and all guys with very serious question marks surrounding them. They might've helped, but they're just as big of risks as the young guys in the draft. I don't see them as sure things either. And Free Agency isn't over. You think the Patriots are keeping eveyr WR on their roster? Guys will come free over the next couple of months. Just because Thompson hasn't signed a big name, doesn't mean he isn't going to find some guys in Free Agency.
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    Packers haven't done sh*t

    I don't understand the argument here. Because he wasn't being talked about, he wasn't a good pick? No hype = bad pick? After the pick, I went back and looked at the DT rankings for this draft. Most places had him no lower than the third DT taken. Many said he has top ten potential, and might've gone there if not for the injury. Predraft no one mentioned his name because that's how Thompson runs things. I can't believe people don't get this by now. When has he every tipped his hand? By they way, Denver would've taken Harrell at 21 if Green Bay didn't pick him. http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_5776178 And as for how I feel about this draft, I give it a solid B. 1. (16) Justin Harrell - B I too was surprised. Upon further review, this was a shrewd pick. Top ten talent at the 16. Plus, Denver was probably going to take him at 21, so they wouldn't have gotten him later. Good pick. 2. (63) Brandon Jackson - B Love it. Jackson is very under-rated. 3. (78) James Jones - C I give Thompson all benefit of the doubt when it comes to wide receivers, since he hit on both Murphy and Jennings. Jones reminds me of Jennings in that he isn't a burner, but he runs good route and it great after the catch. Decent return guy. 3. (89) Aaron Rouse - B Big time talent, not a great cover guy. Worth a shot in the third. 4. (119) Allen Barbre B+ Stud athelete, but a project. 5. (157) David Clowney B+ A guy to stretch the field. What is interesting to me is that if both Jones and Clowney work out, then the need for a TE is minimized. Jones can route TE style routes, Clowney can run, and Driver and Jennings keep doing what they do. Add in a healthy and sober Koren? Nice group. Speed to burn on returns? 6. (191) Korey Hall C Surprised, until I saw they're moving him to FB. 6. (192) Desmond Bishop C- Need some depth at LB in my opinion. 6. (193) Mason Crosby A Hard to pass up the best kicker int he draft, and Rayner isn't automatic. Big leg for kickoffs. 7. (228) DeShawn Wynn B Great pick this late. Talented guy. Possible RB/FB combo. 7. (243) Clark Harris B Worth a shot at TE.
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    2007 NFL Draft Weekend Team Thread: Green Bay Packers

    She doesn't take after her old man, that's for sure.
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    Official: Norse Division Battle Dome Thread

    People keep telling me the Packer draft sucked. I guess it sucked last year too, and the year before. Hell, has Thompson done anything right since he's been there? I mean really, how long does it really take to start an NFL franchise from bascially scratch? That's what the Sherminator left him with.
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    2007 NFL Draft Weekend Team Thread: Green Bay Packers

    I disagree here. Harrell would've been taken by Denver. So Green Bay had to make a choice. He has top ten talent, and wouldn't have made it out of round one. I like Olsen OK, but not at 16. Talent wise, they made the right choice.
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