hoffdaddy

I honestly think you are over-estimating this demise. They are over the cap, true. But the O-line, Gannon, Rice and Garner should all still be in place. Brown is likely gone, which means more touches for Porter. I don't see the doom and gloom that you do I guees.

Which is where we disagree. You view Bryant and Porter as equals. I don't. I honestly feel Porter can be my #1 next season. I could be wrong, but it is worth the trade because I feel strongly about it.

Let's take a look at the draft as a whole, not just the 2.1. There are plenty of guys available who went in the second who turned out and whom I consider to be comparbly talented. 2000 Jerry Porter, Laveraneus Coles, Darrell Jackson 2001 Includes: Drew Brees, Lamont Jordan, Anthony Thomas, Correll Buckhalter, Quincy Morgan 2002 Patrick Ramsey, Ladell Betts, Lamar Gordon I'm not saying all of these guys will be studs, but I think the talent is comparable to that of Shipp. I could be wrong and Shipp could blow up, but time will tell.

They key here is that I don't view Porter as a project. This guy has done nothing but take away production from Tim Brown. My guess is Brown isn't back with the Raiders, and if he is, I don't think he can hold off Porter. My one regret was the trade for Brown, who proceeded to peter out. Porter's numbers this year are the tip of the iceberg in my opinion. Plus, you were asking too much for your stud in my opinion. I also think I can get talent comparable to Shipp at the 2.1

Please explain your uncontrollable laughter. [ 01-13-2003: Message edited by: hoffdaddy ]

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Well, a healthy Feidler was on his way to a top ten finish. That could've made a difference for Filtzy considering his QB's.

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I was just referring to Scorp's take on it. His concerns are legit, I'd just like hear how you'd respond to it.

Legit concern. I'd like to hear more from these guys on it.

Yep.

Yes. Don't point fingers Filtz!!

Well, I dropped both PatteRn and Scott. I had some young guys that I felt had more upside and had to make some tough cuts. Both of these guys are solid backups. My reason for the cuts were: Patten-Had a good season, but yet the Pats went out and got Donald Hayes. I know they are nowhere near the same type of player, but how many ball are there to go around-especially with their passing game. Scott-His leg is still bothering him and as far as I know, he still hasn't been around Bengal camp. I think his best days are behind him. He is the odd man out if he stays in Cincy. If he lands in a good situation, he could be solid again. With Tim Brown and Joe Horn, I felt I had enough depth between Morton, Alexander, Morgan, McCairens and Bradford for the #3 spot and bye week fillers. I added Antonio Bryant and Cliff Russel in the draft to complete the youth movement. I maybe should've planned ahead a little better regarding Scott and PatteRn, but live and learn. I also couldn't justify dropping a young tight end to keep one of these guys. Good luck with those two.

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I won't be able to be in next year. Tooooo many leagues. Sorry fellas. This league was run by a great commish, and all the rules were great too. All around a great league. However, I must move one.

Justice and Stick moved in together?

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Sent something back at you.

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Hey, no problem. I'm here to help out.

B works for me also.

Got it, and I can live with that.

Why don't we just go opposite of draft order for the first round? I mean, if I lose a starting running back in week 5, do I automatically get first crack at a FA? If not, then I don't think Smitty should automatically get first crack now. I understand what you're trying to do, and it's a good idea, but it doesn't seem all too fair.

A I guess.