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OK, Mike, I've re-run my compilations because I had messed up the number of backups, but I think my original point remains the same. The real Compiler Recommended rankings and numbers are this: Rank Pos Player FF Pts Value 1 RB LaDainian Tomlinson 244.6 149.5 2 RB Priest Holmes 229.3 134.3 3 RB Shaun Alexander 226.1 131.1 4 QB Peyton Manning 354.8 118.6 5 RB Willis McGahee 193.9 98.9 6 RB Edgerrin James 189.2 94.1 7 RB Deuce McAllister 180.2 85.1 8 RB Domanick Davis 175.7 80.7 9 RB Rudi Johnson 175.6 80.5 10 RB Tiki Barber 174.7 79.7 11 RB Ahman Green 173.7 78.6 12 RB Clinton Portis 171.3 76.2 13 RB Julius Jones 167.9 72.9 14 RB Corey Dillon 167.9 72.8 15 RB Kevin Jones 167.7 72.7 16 QB Daunte Culpepper 308.6 72.4 17 WR Randy Moss 177.2 64.5 18 RB Jamal Lewis 157.7 62.6 19 QB Donovan McNabb 295.3 59.1 20 RB Curtis Martin 153.2 58.1 21 RB Brian Westbrook 152.1 57.1 22 RB Steven Jackson 150.2 55.1 23 RB LaMont Jordan 149.4 54.3 24 WR Terrell Owens 164.4 51.7 25 RB Tatum Bell 145.9 50.9 26 WR Marvin Harrison 162.3 49.6 27 TE Antonio Gates 124.9 45.9 28 WR Torry Holt 155.7 42.9 29 TE Tony Gonzalez 120.9 41.8 30 WR Javon Walker 153.2 40.5 31 WR Chad Johnson 152.7 39.9 32 RB Warrick Dunn 132.1 37.0 33 RB Fred Taylor 130.8 35.7 34 RB Michael Bennett 127.1 32.0 35 WR Reggie Wayne 144.1 31.3 36 RB Ronnie Brown ® 125.7 30.7 37 RB Carnell 'Cadillac' Williams ® 124.1 29.1 38 WR Joe Horn 141.6 28.9 39 RB Kevan Barlow 122.6 27.5 40 RB DeShaun Foster 119.3 24.3 41 QB Trent Green 258.3 22.1 42 RB J.J. Arrington ® 116.8 21.7 43 RB Chris Brown 115.5 20.5 44 WR Andre Johnson 131.6 18.9 45 QB Brett Favre 253.1 16.9 46 WR Drew Bennett 128.0 15.3 47 WR Darrell Jackson 127.1 14.4 48 WR Michael Clayton 125.9 13.2 49 TE Jason Witten 91.1 12.0 50 QB Marc Bulger 247.2 11.0 My original point was that RB's are given too much weight relative to WR's in this format (1 RB, 1WR and 3 RB/WR flex positions). Randy Moss is rated behind 14 RB's and guys like Drew Bennett are listed behind Chris Brown. In retrospect, I can see how I got into trouble last year by using this overall ranking method. Before the weighting adjustments, the compiler set the RB baseline at 29 and the WR baseline at 21 (the 29th RB has about the same number of FF points as the 21st WR). That seems quite logical (assuming that there are 50 starters and 50 backups drafted). But then the weighting of RB/1.2 and WR/0.9 knocked that out of whack, resulting in the list shown above. My contention is that a more modest disparity between RB and WR rating (e.g., RB/1.05, WR/1.0) would be in order in this case because scarcity of RB's is no longer an issue. When the 2 positions are combined, there are plenty of players to supply the 10 teams in the league. I would still apply a weighting adjustment to RB's to account for their superior consistency. Using the Last Starter method, with adjustments of QB/0.8, RB/1.05, WR/1.0 and TE/0.65, here is the list that I generated and which I am inclined to use: Rank Pos Player FF Pts Value 1 RB LaDainian Tomlinson 244.6 141.1 2 RB Priest Holmes 229.3 125.9 3 RB Shaun Alexander 226.1 122.7 4 QB Peyton Manning 354.8 118.6 5 RB Willis McGahee 193.9 90.5 6 RB Edgerrin James 189.2 85.7 7 RB Deuce McAllister 180.2 76.7 8 QB Daunte Culpepper 308.6 72.4 9 RB Domanick Davis 175.7 72.3 10 RB Rudi Johnson 175.6 72.1 11 RB Tiki Barber 174.7 71.3 12 RB Ahman Green 173.7 70.2 13 RB Clinton Portis 171.3 67.8 14 WR Randy Moss 177.2 66.1 15 RB Julius Jones 167.9 64.5 16 RB Corey Dillon 167.9 64.4 17 RB Kevin Jones 167.7 64.3 18 QB Donovan McNabb 295.3 59.1 19 RB Jamal Lewis 157.7 54.2 20 WR Terrell Owens 164.4 53.3 21 WR Marvin Harrison 162.3 51.2 22 RB Curtis Martin 153.2 49.7 23 RB Brian Westbrook 152.1 48.7 24 RB Steven Jackson 150.2 46.7 25 RB LaMont Jordan 149.4 45.9 26 TE Antonio Gates 124.9 45.9 27 WR Torry Holt 155.7 44.5 28 RB Tatum Bell 145.9 42.5 29 WR Javon Walker 153.2 42.1 30 TE Tony Gonzalez 120.9 41.8 31 WR Chad Johnson 152.7 41.5 32 WR Reggie Wayne 144.1 32.9 33 WR Joe Horn 141.6 30.5 34 RB Warrick Dunn 132.1 28.6 35 RB Fred Taylor 130.8 27.3 36 RB Michael Bennett 127.1 23.6 37 RB Ronnie Brown ® 125.7 22.3 38 QB Trent Green 258.3 22.1 39 RB Carnell 'Cadillac' Williams ® 124.1 20.7 40 WR Andre Johnson 131.6 20.5 41 RB Kevan Barlow 122.6 19.1 42 QB Brett Favre 253.1 16.9 43 WR Drew Bennett 128.0 16.9 44 WR Darrell Jackson 127.1 16.0 45 RB DeShaun Foster 119.3 15.9 46 WR Michael Clayton 125.9 14.8 47 RB J.J. Arrington ® 116.8 13.3 48 WR Nate Burleson 123.3 12.2 49 RB Chris Brown 115.5 12.1 50 TE Jason Witten 91.1 12.0

Well, I wish that I had last year's compilations still around but I don't. I can show you the top 50 overall for this year that I received using the Compiler Recommended method. I don't have to point out the aberrations produced by it; they are pretty apparent. Just look, for example, at all of the RB's listed before Owens and Harrison. I'm not saying that I would or did ever blindly follow the overall rankings, but I used it strongly as a guide. This is for a 10-team league, by the way. Here is the top 50: LaDainian Tomlinson Peyton Manning Priest Holmes Shaun Alexander Willis McGahee Edgerrin James Daunte Culpepper Deuce McAllister Randy Moss Domanick Davis Rudi Johnson Tiki Barber Donovan McNabb Ahman Green Clinton Portis Julius Jones Corey Dillon Kevin Jones Terrell Owens Antonio Gates Marvin Harrison Jamal Lewis Tony Gonzalez Torry Holt Curtis Martin Javon Walker Brian Westbrook Chad Johnson Steven Jackson LaMont Jordan Tatum Bell Reggie Wayne Joe Horn Trent Green Brett Favre Warrick Dunn Fred Taylor Andre Johnson Jason Witten Drew Bennett Michael Bennett Marc Bulger Darrell Jackson Ronnie Brown Michael Clayton Carnell 'Cadillac' Williams Kevan Barlow Alge Crumpler Nate Burleson Todd Heap Certainly, the RB's should get some extra weight because of their consistency, but this is going way overboard. RB scarcity should not be an issue in this case, IMHO. I'm going to switch to the "Last Starter Drafted" method and set some baseline adjustment, giving the RB's more weight than WR's, but not this much more. What would you suggest would be a good ajustment in this case, or would you stick to the RB/1.2 and WR/0.9 adjustment that gave me the results shown above?

Last year, I was in a league (and I'm in the same league this year) with 1 QB, 1 RB, 1 WR, 1 TE and 3 RB/WR flex starters. I went with the Compiler Recommended method which favors RB's significantly over WR's and got punished for it. I watched as many of the WR's that I passed over in favor of RB's (because the Compiler Recommended method had RB's ranked higher than the WR's that I passed over) outpeformed my running backs, badly in some cases. I can see that in a league with no flex positions that RB's should be given more weight than WR's because of their scarcity and their consistency. But when you combine them as flex players you take away the element of scarcity. RB's are still more consistent than WR's but not nearly enough to justify the drastically heavy weighting that the Compiler Recommended method gives them. So what method of overall ranking would you recommend in this league? I would think that a modified form of the Compiler RFecommenred method would be in order, where the RB's would only be weighted slightly more than the WR's. (BTW, in spite of the troubles described above, I still managed to sneak into the playoffs and pull off a win in the league championship game, thanks to a handcuff of Travis Henry to McGahee and in-season FA acquisitions of Drew Brees, Jason Witten and Lee Evans.)

I have 2 leagues set up in my Compiler and it works fine. I currently have 1 copy of the Draft Buddy. Can Draft Buddy easily toggle between leagues, or do I have to go back to the Compiler, change the league and then go back to DB and manually import the information for that league? Could I instead just have 2 copies of DB, one pointing to each league defined in the Compiler? Thanks.

I still get that VB error that I previously described for whether for free or pay sites, so I always have to remove the offending line from the script. But once I do that and then edit the web query to get the table that I want, it imports ok. The value of this tool is in copying the data (once it's been cleaned up) to the Compiler all at once. That's a lot better than having to copy each column for each position individually. Thanks.

That took care of the macro error but since I seem to get that same error no matter which web page I try to import from, free or pay, will I need to delete that line that every time I try to import? That aside, KFFL's data did not import, perhaps because they split the players names into 2 columns, one for first name and one for last name.

Since I don't use any pay sites I can't say first hand. However, I don't see why it wouldn't. I'm waiting for one of you guys to tell me Apparently it doesn't work with KKFL's projections. I get a macro error with the following code highlighted: .WebDisableRedirections = False I use Excel 2000.

OK, fair enough. The fact that there is only one DL/LB starter and the inconsistency of IDP's makes it a wiser bet to draft them later. But would it really be better to forsake getting Lewis or Strahan or Taylor to draft my fourth WR or my second TE? You're basically saying to fill out all QB/RB/WR/TE starters and backups before drafting a starting IDP, if I read your post correctly. Isn't a Ray Lewis worth more than a Charles Lee or an Aveion Cason or a Cam Cleeland? And BTW, most of the people I'll be competing against are actually fans of the Bares so they'll try to jump on Urlacher, no doubt. Barnett will probably still be there if I want him.

I have a similar problem with a defensive flex position, but the above instructions are not quite working. This league has 1 defensive flex position (DL or LB only) and no other IDP starters. To roughly equalize the FF points produced, DL are scored 2 points for six defensive categories (tackles, assists, sacks, ints, fr, pd), and LB's are given 1 point per each of those categories. This flex position needs to combine DL and LB into one starter, just as WR and TE can be combined into one. But when I try alloting fractional starters to DL, LB and Flex, it doesn't work. I use the last Last Starter for the baseline so what I want is for the tenth (ten team league) starter among DL/LB to be the baseline. The combined WR/TE position is exactly analagous here. So how do I accomplish that? No matter what I've tried, I end up getting one baseline for the DL's and one for LB's, which clearly is not what I want. How do I get this to work exactly as the combined WR/TE position?