Meglamaniac
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but still Galloway and Kennison are close to done
What are you basing this on??, It is obviously not Galloways stats from last year
1. Steve Smith CAR 16 16 150 103 1,563 12 228.3 14.3
2. Santana Moss WAS 16 16 134 84 1,483 9 202.3 12.6
3. Larry Fitzgerald ARI 16 16 165 103 1,409 10 200.9 12.6
4. Chad Johnson CIN 16 16 155 97 1,432 9 197.2 12.3
5. Joey Galloway TB 16 16 152 83 1,287 10 188.7 11.8
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Guys...great analysis. I've never been any good at drafting late cause I've always gone RB/RB. But the one time I went WR/WR, it bit me in the a$$ too.
So I'm gonna throw out a scenario and question. Please give me some feedback.
Scenario:
Assume you are drafting late in round 1. Based on the above it seems you take QB1 and WR1/2 if they are available. The problem is that the other owners all have 2 RBs by the time you draft in the 3rd round. At best you get RB 23/24. It seems to me that at this stage everyone has overpicked RBs and there is no value in drafting either of those two players.
Question:
Am I correct in thinking you should pass on RB23/24 and wait until Round 5 and 6 for RB 29/30? So in Round 3/4 you'd take the best TE available and the best WR available?
Looking at the ADP, this is what's left at RB23 on. I actually think some of these guys after 28 have some upside (CMart, Fragile Freddie, Benson, Addai, Green). They also have age and injury concerns. but I guess if you drafted another in round 7, you'd be able to juggle it and have a good starting lineup thoughout the year.
23. Deuce McAllister
24. Tatum Bell
25. Reuben Droughns
26. Thomas Jones
27. DeShaun Foster
28. Joseph Addai
29. Cedric Benson
30. Ahman Green
31. Fred Taylor
32. Chris Brown
33. Dominic Rhodes
34. Curtis Martin
35. Ron Dayne
36. DeAngelo Williams
37. Frank Gore
38. Lendale White
39. Laurence Maroney
40. Kevan Barlow
Just a few other notes of interest about draftng in this manner.
You can bet that if you choose to go WR or QB in both of the first two rounds that in rounds 3, 4 and 5 you will have fewer managers looking at RBs. This means that you can take some risks with round three if you choose and feel fairly safe in the fact that some value will fall to the fourth at RB as owners with two RBs already will be drafting WRs for the most part.
At the end of the draft order, if you have one of the last three spots, but not last and you know the owners after you will be going after positions other than RB cause they already have two allows you a lot of flexibility to wait on RBs, I actually like being in this drafting position.
Don't get me wrong, if the right value at RB is there round 1 or 2 get it, but don't be afraid to step away from the RB run and go elsewhere, and know that when the run on WRs starts the RBs that are there are yours for the choosing.
i cant re-do the VBD for the RBs under PPR, since megla didnt put receptions in his stats. of course the QBs would be worth the same.They can be found here
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http://forums.firstandinches.com/forumdisplay.php?f=21
First three rounds
1.01 Reggie Bush, RB, NO EMoney (from Steebo)
1.02 Joseph Addai, RB, IND Dagger
1.03 Lawrence Maroney, RB, NE SigEp
1.04 DeAngelo Williams, RB, CAR Jay
1.05 Jay Cutler, QB, DEN Meglamaniac
1.06 Lendale White, RB, TEN EMoney
1.07 Matt Leinart, QB, ARI S.D. Jones
1.08 Vernon Davis, TE, SF SigEp (from Tusekan Raiders)
1.09 Santonio Holmes, WR, PIT Scorpion
1.10 Vince Young, QB, TEN Jay (from Merkin)
1.11 Chad Jackson, WR, NE S.D. Jones
1.12 Jerious Norwood, RB, ATL whoisjgalt
1.13 Maurice Drew, RB, JAX Jay Metz
1.14 Brian Calhoun, RB, DET Dirty Dug
2.01 Marcedes Lewis, TE, JAX whoisjgalt (from Steebo)
2.02 Kellen Clemens, QB, NYJ Dagger
2.03 Sinorice Moss, WR, NYG SigEp
2.04 Tarvaris Jackson, QB, MIN Merkin (from Jay)
2.05 Brett Favre, QB, GB Meglamaniac
2.06 Greg Jennings, WR, GB EMoney
2.07 Jon Kitna, QB, DET Gutter
2.08 Derek Hagan, WR, MIA Tusekan Raiders
2.09 Maurice Stovall, WR, TB Scorpion
2.10 PJ Daniels, RB, BAL Merkin
2.11 Leonard Pope, TE, ARI Gutter
2.12 Jerome Harrison, RB, CLE whoisjgalt
2.13 Travis Wilson, WR, CLE Jay Metz
2.14 Brandon Marshall, WR, DEN Dirty Dug
3.01 Brodie Croyle, QB, KC whoisjgalt (from Steebo)
3.02 Leon Washington, RB, NYJ Dagger
3.03 Jason Avant, WR, PHI SigEp
3.04 Demetrius Williams, WR, BAL Jay
3.05 Quincy Morgan, WR, PIT Meglamaniac
3.06 Michael Robinson, WR, SF EMoney
3.07 Airese Curry, WR, CHI S.D Jones (from Gutter)
3.08 Charlie Whitehurst, QB, SD Tusekan Raiders
3.09 Stephen Gostkowski, K, NE Scorpion
3.10 Cedric Humes, RB, PIT Merkin
3.11 Anthony Thomas, RB, BUF Gutter (from S.D. Jones)
3.12 Mike Hass, WR, NO whoisjgalt
3.13 Tony Scheffler, TE, DEN Jay Metz
3.14 Wali Lundy, RB, HOU Dirty Dug
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but the demand is what makes VBD, because theres a demand for 12 QB starters, 24 RBs, 36 WRs, and 12 TEs. and the whole point of VBD is to show exactly what the good measure IS between positions.
my point, or at least what all my above data seems to point to, is that -- outside of the top 5 RBs or so, who still rule the day in fantasy football -- those stud QBs, WRs, and TEs are worth way more than anyone realizes. but people are stuck on taking two RBs to start, so they are taking the 18th best RB in the second round when they could get the #1 TE or the #5 WR, both of whom are top 15 values historically while the 18th best RB is more like top 50. i thought it was astonishing.
I was refering more to the demand for a particular position more than the required starting lineups. I agree that most people don't realize the value of the Top tier WRs and or TEs and those that see that value and draft them where they feel VBD lists say they should are often the teams that fair well.
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I'm pretty sure that most of us that use VBD don't draft verbatum off the list, it's simple a tool that gives a fairly good measure of value between positions. It does not take into account the demand for players by your leaguemates.
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FFToday Strandard
PaYd: 1.00 point for every 20.00
PaTD: 4.00 points each
RuYd: 1.00 point for every 10.00
RuTD: 6.00 points each
Rec Yd: 1.00 point for every 10.00
Rec TD: 6.00 points each
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TEs
Rec Rec Yrds Rec TDs FF Points
80.33 993.33 11.00 165.33
76.33 973.00 7.33 141.30
73.00 842.67 5.33 116.27
53.33 661.33 6.00 102.13
60.67 740.00 4.00 98.00
57.67 638.33 5.33 95.83
66.67 757.00 2.33 89.70
60.00 628.33 3.67 84.83
48.67 521.00 4.33 78.10
42.33 483.33 4.67 76.33
34.00 430.33 5.00 73.03
45.67 501.00 3.33 70.10
37.00 407.00 4.33 66.70
41.67 403.67 4.00 64.37
31.67 394.67 4.00 63.47
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I'll add top 15 TEs sometime Friday
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Below you will find the 3 year average stats for
Top 20 QBs
Top 30 QBs
Top 40 WRs
I like to create my preseason ranking based soley on feel, then apply the stats that follow to that ranking as a starting point.
You will notice that the #1 QB is just that, the #1 QB and no name is assigned to that slot, I leave that to yo and your rankings.
Enjoy
QBs
Pass yrds Pass TDs Rsh Yrds Rsh TDs FF Points
4010.666667 32 290.6666667 2.33 371.63
4311.333333 34.66 52 0.333 361.46
3821 28.33 130.33 1.66 327.46
4130 25 82.66 1 320.8
3857.666667 24 113.33 2.33 314.26
3696.333333 26 114.33 1 306.26
3757.666667 26.33 51 0.66 302.33
3687.666667 24.33 92 1.33 298.93
3776 22.33 81.33 1.33 294.30
3105.666667 22.33 258.66 3.33 290.50
3597.666667 22.33 76.66 1 282.90
2812.666667 18.66 417.33 3.66 279.06
3321.333333 18.66 202.33 2 272.96
3297 18.66 223.66 0.66 265.90
3291.666667 18.66 72.33 0.66 250.53
3276 16 111.66 1 244.96
2974.333333 18 111.33 0 231.86
2749.333333 14.33 188 1.66 223.63
2809 16.66 56.66 1 218.80
2529 16.33 102.33 1.66 212.066
RBs
rsh yrds rsh Tds Rec yrds Rec Tds FF Points
1665.33 23.33 312.67 1.67 347.80
1717.00 16.00 429.33 2.67 326.63
1613.33 13.00 565.33 2.33 309.87
1742.33 14.67 273.33 1.33 297.57
1425.67 13.33 415.67 0.67 268.13
1499.67 11.33 331.33 0.67 255.10
1578.00 10.67 236.33 0.33 247.43
1351.33 9.00 339.00 1.00 229.03
1278.33 10.33 221.00 0.33 213.93
1027.67 8.67 402.33 2.33 209.00
1098.00 10.67 221.67 1.33 203.97
1391.67 5.33 204.67 1.00 197.63
1077.33 5.33 354.33 1.67 185.17
1123.00 6.33 337.67 0.00 184.07
1193.67 4.33 318.00 1.00 183.17
825.67 9.67 287.33 1.67 179.30
1024.67 5.67 290.67 1.67 175.53
956.67 4.00 435.00 1.33 171.17
1028.67 9.33 91.00 0.00 167.97
896.00 4.67 334.67 2.33 165.07
968.33 7.00 164.00 0.33 157.23
924.33 6.33 220.33 0.33 154.47
865.00 4.33 311.33 1.00 149.63
991.00 4.67 185.00 0.33 147.60
961.33 5.00 135.33 0.33 141.67
646.00 9.33 136.33 0.67 138.23
745.67 5.33 213.67 0.67 131.93
646.00 4.33 276.67 1.33 126.27
759.00 3.67 213.00 0.67 123.20
554.33 7.33 151.33 1.00 120.57
WRs
Rec Rec Yrds Rec TDs FF Points
102.33 1533.33 15.00 243.33
96.67 1520.33 11.00 218.03
95.67 1387.67 10.33 200.77
89.33 1301.33 11.00 196.13
90.00 1259.00 11.00 191.90
97.00 1335.33 9.00 187.53
84.67 1173.00 11.33 185.30
85.33 1250.00 9.33 181.00
81.67 1176.33 9.67 175.63
79.00 1119.00 9.33 167.90
74.67 1131.00 8.67 165.10
71.67 1130.33 8.00 161.03
83.67 1131.00 7.33 157.10
74.00 1134.00 7.00 155.40
89.67 1127.67 6.67 152.77
65.00 1020.00 7.33 146.00
72.33 1042.00 6.33 142.20
62.67 923.67 8.00 140.37
71.33 933.33 7.67 139.33
58.33 886.33 8.33 138.63
79.00 1020.00 6.00 138.00
59.67 965.00 6.33 134.50
66.67 937.33 6.67 133.73
63.33 923.33 5.67 126.33
68.00 963.67 4.67 124.37
74.67 948.33 4.67 122.83
64.00 830.33 6.00 119.03
56.33 814.67 6.00 117.47
59.00 771.00 6.33 115.10
64.33 861.67 4.67 114.17
57.00 827.33 5.00 112.73
55.67 778.67 5.67 111.87
52.33 720.67 6.00 108.07
50.33 735.67 5.67 107.57
65.33 795.33 4.00 103.53
48.33 742.33 4.67 102.23
59.33 764.67 4.00 100.47
58.00 739.33 4.33 99.93
56.33 722.67 4.33 98.27
68.67 758.33 3.00 93.83
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ok, but i didn't sort by top40 or anything... it's just raw data...
want me to just email it to you??
Dont sweat it, I got what I was looking for from Mike's link, but thanks for trying to help a brother out.
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i can do a quick AutoSort cut-and-paste from pro-football-reference's data file i think...
put QB2003, QB2004, QB2005, RB2003, etc... on separate tabs...
is that a good format for you?
Sounds great
FF Today Stats - Just use the FF Today Default scoring system (or a custom scoring option to your liking) and copy/paste into Excel. You're not that lazy, are you?
Of course I am 
Thanks, that will work just fine
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Anyone have the 2003, 2004 and 2005 positional stats for
QBs- top 20
RBs- top 40
WR- top 60
TEs- top 15
in an excel spreadsheet?
Feeling lazy
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This is one of the best RBs of the past decade.
If it's the year 2011 
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Swirven, "Yo Cdub wanna get a beer?"
Cdub, "umm this is a church league no drinking allowed."
Swirven.
Cdub, "sorry man"
Must not be Baptist
They are some of the heaviest drinking leagues we have followed closely by the Police Leagues.
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Should a spot present itself I would like to get involved once again after some time off from the mocks.
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Most Dynasty leagues, just after NFL draft
Most Internet leagues, late June or July
Most Local leagues, sometime in August
Big money League, Wednesday before the season starts.
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That must be one HELL of a fan they are standing in front of
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Sorry about your thread, I'll not let it happen again
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Got some QBs with obvious health questions ranked pretty high, keep close watch on them, Culpepper and Palmer.
TB at #2???????????
I don't like this at all.
Rest of the rankings look good.
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Links?
Liar.
Then post links or STFU!
I didn't - but he is the one making personal attacks and you said we're both at fault I take issue with that.
you didn't. obviously. Megla makes personal attacks and I am being blamed for it. That's not a fair or friendly manner.
There's many ways of pleasing me - lying about me without posting quotes/links and blaming me when someone else makes personal attacks ain't the ways.
And the beat goes on...
Megla: makes personal attacks
Scooter: calls him on it, asks if it's ok to reciprocate
Megla: denies fault, points finger at Scooter
Scooter: points out the hypocricy
Megla: continues to insult again and again.
I never denied anything, to a point I made it well know that yea I was calling you a blowhard.
What is hypocritical about calling a spade a spade.
You're a puppet who's string are easily pulled and they should be, everybody else can't be wrong in regards to you and your posting style.
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Typical, really - mods never own up to holding themselves to the higher standards they hold others to.
In this case, it's an ex-mod, but it is typical nonetheless.
The sad part is that I have no interest in perpetuating anything, but I am a big believer in fair treatment. If I am treated fairly I have no reason to even respond to any of it. In this case I am being blamed for Megla's childish personal attacks.
That's simply not acceptible.
Thus, in this case you can thank Meglamaniac for the disaster this topic has become. I am talking FFB philsophy and Megla is being an insulting distraction. If I had my way, I wouldn't get insulted and this topic would be alllll about football.
And the beat goes on and the beat goes on.
Pooper, " show me"
Multiple posters-" here and here"
Pooper-, "that doesn't count because of this or that"
Megla-
Pooper- it's not fair and it's Megla's fault
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I see just the oposite, if as we get close to preseason DM is proven healthy he is the back in NO and Bush will be used as a change of pace, two back option and he will be lined up in the slot.
Lets not forget
1. DM past production
2. Blocking is more important a role fo a RB than realized.
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Man up, Sally.
Follow the forum rules and stop with the personal attacks and we'll get along fine.
"Blowhard" & "Clown" - there's two now. Careful...people have been suspended for less. And with Fumbles right here to witness it....if he's fair, you'll get warned/edited.
It's just your nature isn't it, you do it and don't even know you do it all the while crying to fumble, "he is calling me names"
Rock on Scoot
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And in true Megla format, you are in denial of the fact that the only one starting sh!t and calling anyone names in here is YOU.
YOU called me a blowhard, which makes YOU a hypocrite. Scan through the topic real quick, and take a look at who called who a name. "Blowhard" is indeed an insult and a personal attack, and a former mod should know that it isn't allowed by the rules of this forum. Good thing you aren't a mod any more because you sucked at it, in this exact way, consistently.
Without that, why are you even here? Not like you ever have any football related opinions...just the geeky hall monitor. Maybe I am abbrasive, but at least I'm at the right website.
And FYI, I merely asked you a question - if it would be ok with you if I retorted and called you a name back. But being the hypocrite you are, you try to turn it around...nice going.
Your apology will be considered whenever you decide to grow a sack & man up.
You are one funny clown, please keep performing
Looking for a starting point for 2006 stat projections
in FFToday Board
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The tally is not there, my bad
I created a spread sheet using the stats from 03,04 and 05
Give me a minute and I will add the rec for RBs.
RBs to include REC
rsh yrds rsh Tds REC Rec yrds Rec Tds
1665.33 23.33 37.33 312.67 1.67
1717.00 16.00 45.00 429.33 2.67
1613.33 13.00 69.00 565.33 2.33
1742.33 14.67 39.33 273.33 1.33
1425.67 13.33 50.33 415.67 0.67
1499.67 11.33 41.00 331.33 0.67
1578.00 10.67 35.67 236.33 0.33
1351.33 9.00 44.33 339.00 1.00
1278.33 10.33 32.67 221.00 0.33
1027.67 8.67 47.33 402.33 2.33
1098.00 10.67 30.00 221.67 1.33
1391.67 5.33 27.67 204.67 1.00
1077.33 5.33 41.67 354.33 1.67
1123.00 6.33 38.33 337.67 0.00
1193.67 4.33 42.33 318.00 1.00
825.67 9.67 36.00 287.33 1.67
1024.67 5.67 36.00 290.67 1.67
956.67 4.00 53.00 435.00 1.33
1028.67 9.33 15.67 91.00 0.00
896.00 4.67 32.67 334.67 2.33
968.33 7.00 24.67 164.00 0.33
924.33 6.33 28.33 220.33 0.33
865.00 4.33 40.67 311.33 1.00
991.00 4.67 21.00 185.00 0.33
961.33 5.00 19.67 135.33 0.33
646.00 9.33 13.33 136.33 0.67
745.67 5.33 29.67 213.67 0.67
646.00 4.33 30.00 276.67 1.33
759.00 3.67 33.00 213.00 0.67
554.33 7.33 15.00 151.33 1.00