TBayXXXVII

Barkley pulled a hammy. That happens. Also, Eagles had injuries (and a retirement on their OLine), so lower your expectations. With Odunze and Loveland, I mean, I think we all expect lesser production when a 2nd or 3rd string QB is playing... don't we?

Watching college football, to me, is worse than watching paint dry so I don't watch it. My brother watches that stuff all the time. He said Cam Ward is not a starter in the NFL. A backup, possibly, but not a starter. So, take that for what it's worth. He thinks that when Tennessee goes 0-17, they should draft a QB and just release Ward. Though, he and all of us know, that's not going to happen. But don't expect much from him or Tennessee while Ward is their starter.

It was pretty miserable at the end of overtime too.

Bucs. Not even close. We at least have an average OLine, WR's who belong in the NFL, and a competent backfield. Herbert would be much better in Tampa for his price than Mayfield.

I took Jones with the last pick in the draft in my keeper league. He's been an awesome surprise. Been starting him in my flex spot the last 3 weeks.

Agreed, but I think the buyer is more at risk of looking bad by overpaying than the seller for under selling. In a situation like this, I'm thinking that every Cardinals fan is thinking, 'get what you can, who cares'. Reason being, if he becomes something, it wasn't going to be in Arizona anyway. The buyer on the other hand has to deal with 'we gave up what for that?' I think that comes with more scrutiny.

Value is only based on the buyer, not the seller or outsiders.

Every QB does that, so not really an issue for me, especially since its his second start. But yeah, he's doing well so far. I was being a bit sarcastic though. I'm not a fan of Mayfield and think people (especially Bucs fans), vastly overrate him, but he is starter worthy.

Like @Strike said to @MDC, no one is forcing you to watch. I'm not going to watch it. I just don't care. I'm not a person who should be watching it. The sad thing is, the people who should, aren't going to either. Do I think it's a waste of time? Yeah, but I'm going to get my panties in a bunch about it like some of you are. Also, no one would live stream an abortion. You know why? Because a big enough portion of pro-choice people would change their minds and it would be 100% outlawed in this country.

I find it funny how some people are appalled by this... yet support abortion and Lindsay Clansy.

You're not wrong. Also, the GM isn't that good. He's "ok", but he's someone where you look at and say... "Yeah, I can do better".

Finally, Tampa gets a good QB... and they win. Shocking!

DITKA!! DA BEARS!!! DA Pope.... or Ditka? RIP good sir.

I'm not shocked. Had him in my starting lineup in my office league.

Jameson Williams? I'd never start him unless I absolutely had too. If that were the case, I'd cut someone and find another person on waivers to start.

In Tampa... it's both.

In my office league (2 QB league), I drafted Jayden Daniels, Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield, De'Von Achane, Rico Dowdle, Justin Jefferson, DeVonta Smith, Mike Evans, & Dallas Goedert I say that because I want to let you know who else I drafted so that you can plan ahead. 1. Bijan Robinson (Atl - RB) 2. Justin Jefferson (Min - WR) 3. De'Von Achane (Mia - RB) 4. DeVonta Smith (Phi - WR) 5. Jayden Daniels (Was - QB) 6. Sam LaPorta (Det - TE) 7. Dak Prescott (Dal - QB) 8. Terry McLaurin (Was - WR) 9. Davante Adams (LAR - WR) 10. Rome Odunze (Chi - WR) 11. Mike Evans (SF - WR) 12. Baker Mayfield (TB - QB) 13. Rico Dowdle (Pit - RB) 14. J.K. Dobbins (Den - RB) 15. Dallas Goedert (Phi - TE) 16. Sam Darnold (Sea - QB)

Nailed it exactly. Instead of firing Bowles, after Coen left, Bowles got an extension. Jason Licht (who should've been fired), got an extension too. He's the dummy who not only gave Baker 1 terrible contract, but now 2.

That's an interesting point. I don't think it's absurd, but I think if Jefferson wants to play, he's going to play. For fantasy purposes, I think because of this point you brought up, owners should be prepared for anything.

If Texas votes for a communist, they'll have to deal with the consequenses. Let's hope they and this country aren't that foolish.

Someone stating facts is now a victim? When did that start? I guess you're proving my point. Thanks.

Wait, you're saying that this started only 2015? Dude, it started WAY before that? Also, not sure why you want him to lie when you've complained about him lying all the time.

LOL, you think the left is ever going to change? Yes, that ain't happening dude.

Mayfield is not a good QB. He needs everything to be just right, for him to be productive. My optimistic approach was based on Robinson being from the McVay tree and Mayfield having familiarity with it. It may still work or in the end, but as you said, we shall see.

Saints and Panthers showed a heck of a lot more the first two weeks than Tampa did. If they keep playing like this, they'll be the joke of the division.