DIVINE DESTRUCTION 0 Posted May 21, 2003 cannt argue with the staley pick he sure did last a long time---bc of the previous stated opinion. Still think it is good value at this point Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shox 0 Posted May 21, 2003 Steve I have lost track of the draft order for the sixth round. Could you go ahead and setup that thread. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wuerffel for MVP 0 Posted May 21, 2003 Also I don't see any WRs that jump out at me being the best of the 10 or so I'm looking at. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted May 21, 2003 Originally posted by GameDay Guru:Wow, I targeted Rogers much much later. Good pick though, he's going to be a stud, but wow round 5 I'm suprised. I couldn't chance him not making to me in the 6th and settling for a mid tier WR. Besides from the sound of Brain he wouldn't of gotten to my 6th round pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DIVINE DESTRUCTION 0 Posted May 21, 2003 If you guys want me to pick you better hurry up. I have a meeting from 1:30-3:15 and I dont want to do a list bc there are to many questions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
singman 0 Posted May 21, 2003 Also Moz I noticed the comment about Rogers being my hometown boy. I think me being a Detroit homer has made Rogers less valuable to me. He is talented like moss but like moss his off the field stuff throws up a red flag. Being a Detroit Michigan Homer I have had to read the articles written about his 2 children from 2 different women one of which stabbed him with a fork and collapsed his right lung. His academic problems and whispers of cheating all through college. His supposed failed drug test. I don't think people outside of Michigan and specifically MSU where I have a lot of friends know just how bad of a guy this guy is and how likely this guy is to not make it. This guy has talent just oozing out of him but he has trouble written all over him. He always has. [ 05-21-2003: Message edited by: singman ] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeyjoejoe 0 Posted May 21, 2003 Where is JCW...he was here 10 mins ago to trade his pick! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
singman 0 Posted May 21, 2003 Originally posted by The Moz: Steve -- Harrigton has a gun and throws it long and often ! If Rogers doesn't get me 10 TD's this year I would be surprised ! I am not sure the Lions offense will score 10 TD's this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted May 21, 2003 Originally posted by singman:Also Moz I noticed the comment about Rogers being my hometown boy. I think me being a Detroit homer has made Rogers less valuable to me. He is talented like moss but like moss his off the field stuff throws up a red flag. Being a Detroit Michigan Homer I have had to read the articles written about his 2 children from 2 different women one of which stabbed him with a fork and collapsed his right lung. His academic problems and whispers of cheating all through college. His supposed failed drug test. I don't think people outside of Michigan and specifically MSU where I have a lot of friends know just how bad of a guy this guy is and how likely this guy is to not make it. As bad as he might be - i seriously doubt he has the same level of off the field baggage as Moss ! As for the multiple Kids and cheating in college -- you just described over half the RB/WR's in the NFL. I am sure you have alot of reliable sources being from there -- I have seen hi play alot - and the guy is just as talented as Randy Moss at this stage IMO. But we'll see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Brain 0 Posted May 21, 2003 Originally posted by joeyjoejoe:Where is JCW...he was here 10 mins ago to trade his pick! was he?????? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JCW412 0 Posted May 21, 2003 Sorry guys, got jammed up at work. I didn't think I was going to get around that fast. The pick is out there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted May 21, 2003 good pick JCW -- Wuerffel -- now that's who I would have taken over Staley. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Brain 0 Posted May 21, 2003 3 more picks and FINALLY I get to pick. Most likely twice cause DD has been floating around!!!! SOB he is out from 1-3!!! [ 05-21-2003: Message edited by: The Brain ] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JCW412 0 Posted May 21, 2003 Originally posted by The Moz:good pick JCW -- Wuerffel -- now that's who I would have taken over Staley. Does my trade look a little better to you now? I didn't figure anyone would take him, and now I have better positions coming up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wuerffel for MVP 0 Posted May 21, 2003 No way I hate Antowain Smith. He had less yards, less receptions, less receiving yards, and less TDS than Duce and is older. I don't see any reason to take him. [ 05-21-2003: Message edited by: Wuerffel for MVP ] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shox 0 Posted May 21, 2003 Is Paul here? We need to get these next two picks in or DD is going to be gone for awhile. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeyjoejoe 0 Posted May 21, 2003 Originally posted by Wuerffel for MVP:No way I hate Antowain Smith. And I am a Pats homer BTW....Uncle Paul has yet to check in today....we might be here a while Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted May 21, 2003 Originally posted by JCW412: Does my trade look a little better to you now? I didn't figure anyone would take him, and now I have better positions coming up. But Shox the Driver pick was very shaky in the 4th IMO -- i would have taken Porter , Rogers , or Gardner ( I think he is the better WR in wash than Coles ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wuerffel for MVP 0 Posted May 21, 2003 Here's what my board looked like going into this round: Toomer Booker Duce Gardner :eek: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
singman 0 Posted May 21, 2003 Enough with every time Paul comes up we say "we might be here a while". He does not post on this site, He registered only to get in this league. After the draft you may never see a post from him again. I work with him and tell him when it is his turn. He will be picking in the next few minutes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JCW412 0 Posted May 21, 2003 I know this is a Dynasty league, so it is a bit different, but IMO I still want to get someone who is going to produce this year rather than gamble big on the future. Rogers has a ton of potential, but I don't see him outproducing a guy like Driver this year. just my .02 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shox 0 Posted May 21, 2003 Only have two guys on my board for the 6th round, the rest have all been snagged. I wouldn't be surprised if one more leaves this in round 5. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeyjoejoe 0 Posted May 21, 2003 Originally posted by singman:Enough with every time Paul comes up we say "we might be here a while". He does not post on this site, He registered only to get in this league. After the draft you may never see a post from him again. I work with him and tell him when it is his turn. He will be picking in the next few minutes. I did not know that! Cool! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shox 0 Posted May 21, 2003 Looks like were done until 3:15. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shox 0 Posted May 21, 2003 Damn Moz your 4th round Hambrick pick is still getting play on the main board. That is too funny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted May 21, 2003 Originally posted by Shox:Damn Moz your 4th round Hambrick pick is still getting play on the main board. That is too funny. I just added another one -- should keep em going for a while ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted May 21, 2003 J. Stewart -- i thought he was retired ? :eek: what is he 35 ? [ 05-21-2003: Message edited by: The Moz ] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted May 21, 2003 Rogers may of been a reach in round 5 but A. Johnson :eek: Stone hands and awful route running skills ! He has great size and is a great athlete but ikley won't do much for a few years -- at least 2. [ 05-21-2003: Message edited by: The Moz ] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JCW412 0 Posted May 21, 2003 Originally posted by The Moz:J. Stewart -- i thought he was retired ? :eek: what is he 35 ? [ 05-21-2003: Message edited by: The Moz ] He could be decent with Mariucci. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted May 21, 2003 Originally posted by JCW412: He could be decent with Mariucci. Yeah Heast is like 50 and did well with Mooch last year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Brain 0 Posted May 21, 2003 Originally posted by The Moz:Rogers may of been a reach in round 5 but A. Johnson :eek: Stone hands and awful route running skills ! He has great size and is a great athlete but ikley won't do much for a few years -- at least 2. [ 05-21-2003: Message edited by: The Moz ] Not that I am one to justify picks but we have alittle time before DD gets back... AJ is the next Terrel Owens..this is a dynasty league correct?, or do you all plan to bail out in a year or two? I am not drafting for this year in case you haven't noticed, my oldest player so far is Moss DOB 2/13/77. I have a plan and am sticking with it dispite any critism that comes from you jabronies. I wanted Porter or Rogers at this spot but they were gone. [ 05-21-2003: Message edited by: The Brain ] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JCW412 0 Posted May 21, 2003 To be honest, he was one of the ones I was looking at when I took A.Smith. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted May 21, 2003 Originally posted by The Brain: Not that I am one to justify picks but we have alittle time before DD gets back... AJ is the next Terrel Owens..this is a dynasty league correct?, or do you all plan to bail out in a year or two? I am not drafting for this year in case you haven't noticed, my oldest player so far is Moss DOB 2/13/77. I have a plan and am sticking with it dispite any critism that comes from you jabronies. I wanted Porter or Rogers at this spot but they were gone. [ 05-21-2003: Message edited by: The Brain ] If planed to bail -- do you think I would have taken Barlow and Rogers in the 1st 5 rounds :eek: If you building for the future then maybe it was a decent pick if he pans out but is going to need to learn how to catch the ball. TO he is not -- Boston maybe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
singman 0 Posted May 21, 2003 Originally posted by The Moz:Rogers may of been a reach in round 5 but A. Johnson :eek: Stone hands and awful route running skills ! He has great size and is a great athlete but ikley won't do much for a few years -- at least 2. [ 05-21-2003: Message edited by: The Moz ] Sillyness. He is raw. Needs time to develop skills but awesome pure athlete. I don't know where you get the stone hands thing. From all I have heard he has great hands and has enough potential that some scouts were projecting him to be better than Rogers just not as ready to make an impact. However hardly any rookie WR's make an impact fantasy wise. Given that Brain already has his 2 starting WR's this pick makes way more sense than the Rogers pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Lou 0 Posted May 21, 2003 Originally posted by singman: Sillyness. He is raw. Needs time to develop skills but awesome pure athlete. I don't know where you get the stone hands thing. From all I have heard he has great hands and has enough potential that some scouts were projecting him to be better than Rogers just not as ready to make an impact. However hardly any rookie WR's make an impact fantasy wise. Given that Brain already has his 2 starting WR's this pick makes way more sense than the Rogers pick. Quick question, why would anyone burn a fifth rounder for either receiver? You should be able to get them from the 7th and on if you choose to do so. :confused: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
singman 0 Posted May 21, 2003 Originally posted by The Moz: If planed to bail -- do you think I would have taken Barlow and Rogers in the 1st 5 rounds :eek: If you building for the future then maybe it was a decent pick if he pans out but is going to need to learn how to catch the ball. TO he is not -- Boston maybe. I am sorry if it seems like I am harping on you but "Needs to learn how to catch the ball"? 3/4 of the sh*t you say is wrong. If anyone needs to learn how to catch the ball it is Rogers. His weakness is short and intermediate routes. That is well known and even admitted by Rogers his first weekend in Detroit. Unfortunately Detroit runs an offense that is mostly short and intermediate routes. Impact? Maybe next year and by then Johnson will be a beast. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted May 21, 2003 Originally posted by Captain Lou: Quick question, why would anyone burn a fifth rounder for either receiver? You should be able to get them from the 7th and on if you choose to do so. :confused: I took Rogers becasue at the time I picked IMO he was the only WR on the baord that had the upside to be a top 3 WR very soon. maybe even top 10 this year if he messes with Mooch's system right away. I think Rogers is Mooch's new Terrell owens with less power but maybe better moves and speed. I think both have great hands. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted May 21, 2003 Originally posted by singman: I am sorry if it seems like I am harping on you but "Needs to learn how to catch the ball"? 3/4 of the sh*t you say is wrong. If anyone needs to learn how to catch the ball it is Rogers. His weakness is short and intermediate routes. That is well known and even admitted by Rogers his first weekend in Detroit. Unfortunately Detroit runs an offense that is mostly short and intermediate routes. Impact? Maybe next year and by then Johnson will be a beast. that's youre opinion sing -- we will see as the years play out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
singman 0 Posted May 21, 2003 Originally posted by Captain Lou: Quick question, why would anyone burn a fifth rounder for either receiver? You should be able to get them from the 7th and on if you choose to do so. :confused: Lou, I wouldn't. I am trying to build for the future as well as now. Neither Receiver will do anything this year where there are plenty of 2nd and 3rd year WR's that are still very young but will produce this year whereas these 2 will not. But if you see something special in these guys or you just plain want them I guess you feel the need to grab them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
