Portis26 0 Posted April 20, 2006 For Brunell, A Stat That Made a Difference LINK April 18, 2006 One of the telltales for the Redskins of 2005 concerned the fact that Clinton Portis and Santana Moss both entered their names into the team record book. Portis rushed for a franchise record 1,516 yards during the regular season, breaking Stephen Davis's mark of 1,432 in 2001. Moss finished with 1,483 receiving yards, edging out Bobby Mitchell's team standard of 1,436 yards, which the Hall of Famer established in 1963. Another player whose performance last year forces you back into the franchise's annals is quarterback Mark Brunell. In his 13th NFL season, Brunell was exceptional in one particular category, i.e., in his ratio of touchdowns to interceptions. He was 23-to-10 on that count. It's a very important stat, given the way the game is played nowdays, with such an emphasis for defenses on pressuring quarterbacks and forcing turnovers. If you look at the history of the Redskins all the way back to 1932, you'll find that only two quarterbacks had a better ratio of TDs to picks. In 1983, Joe Theismann threw for 29 touchdowns and was picked off just 11 times. That '83 team put up 541 points and ranks as one of the best offenses in NFL history. Theismann led the Redskins all the way to Super Bowl XVIII, at which point Washington came up empty in a 38-9 setback to the Los Angeles Raiders. In 1991, Mark Rypien tossed 28 TDs and was intercepted 11 times for a club that eventually trounced Buffalo 37-24 in Super Bowl XXVI. Here's the point: Theismann in 1983 and Rypien in 1991 are the only two quarterbacks in Redskins' history to have put together a better TDs-to-interceptions ratio than than of Brunell in 2005. In the 1970 season, Sonny Jurgensen, like Brunell last season, went 23-10 in that department. And Sonny still holds the Redskins' record for most TD passes in a season (31). He did that in 1967, when he was picked off 16 times. To be fair about it, prior to the modern era of NFL, Sammy Baugh had a season in 1945 in which he threw for 11 touchdowns and was picked off just four times. But that, basically, was before the time of reliance on the forward pass in NFL play. Had it not been for his bad outing at Arizona, in which he was intercepted three times, Brunell would have been even better in his TDs-to-picks totals. Fortunately, the Redskins won that contest against the Cardinals by a score of 17-13. As far as 2005, Brunell helped guide Washington to a 10-6 record and a win in the playoffs, the team's first since 1999. The postseason run came to an end with a 20-10 defeat to the Seahawks in the Divisional Playoffs round. "It was a good learning lesson for us, to be in the playoffs and on the road like that in those environments," the veteran QB said. Brunell played in all 16 regular-season games last year for the first time since 2000. For the season, Brunell completed 262-of-454 passes for 3,050 yards and a QB rating of 85.9. His career QB rating is 84.1. Said Brunell: "Last year was a pretty special season with a great group of guys. I know I feel really proud of this football team and I'm looking forward to getting this going again." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jocstrap 8 Posted April 20, 2006 Portis - there seems to be a lot of Washington haters for some reason on this board (not sure why). Brunell has been very consistent his whole career and I've always been a fan. It's a team, not an individual that wins championships. It took Elway a looonnnngggg time but he did it. I like this team a lot and by damn if Trent Dilfer can somehow do it.... no reason Brunell can't. They are skilled in many positions and are in a division I think they can win. Go Redskins! No they are not my favorite team, I'm an AFC fan, but I hope the skins make a run for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Savage Beast 1 Posted April 20, 2006 Portis - there seems to be a lot of Washington haters for some reason on this board (not sure why). I'm a Cowboys fan, so I have no choice but to hate the Skins. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Portis26 0 Posted April 20, 2006 I'm a Cowboys fan, so I have no testicals fix'd Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skins1967 0 Posted April 20, 2006 Great article, Portis ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe Carcuss 0 Posted April 20, 2006 Interesting article on the Skins but I'm not sure I agree with the Brunell assessment. Brunell's TD/INT ratio was padded by several big stat games early in the year. As the the season wore on, Brunell seemed to be less and less effective. Over the last month (including the playoffs) they seemed to be winning in spite of Brunell (with Portis and a very good defense), not because of him. I think Brunell and S. Moss caught a lot of DCs off guard last season but that won't happen again. I would not be surprised at all if Brunell is out of the line up (due to injury or poor play) by week 4-5. If I were a Skins fan I would be a lot more concerned about Campbell being the real deal then comparing Brunell to Joe Theismann. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taylor36 0 Posted April 20, 2006 I have to believe that Brunell's play relies soley on his health. When he is healthy his passes are where they need to be and he gets the job done. When he is hurt it is very noticeable. I'm not gonna lie, I hated Brunell the first season he was with the skins. He always had men wide open but would throw it 10 feet over their head, and it always seemed to be on 3rd down. Moss does help his stats a lot with the success of the screen pass to Moss. But as long as Brunell is healthy I dont want to see Campbell take a snap. If Brunell gets hurt, Gibbs needs to take him out before it is too late. But then again there is no garantee that Campbell would come in if Brunell got hurt, it could be Collins... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Buffington 3 Posted April 20, 2006 There is no doubt in my mind they're going to the Super Bowl. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kristv 0 Posted April 20, 2006 I've always liked Brunell. He was the first QB I ever drafted in fantasy football. I had him during his first few years with Jax, and he was great! Especially since he ran a few TD's in each year as well. I'm glad he is having success with the 'Skins because I thought Jax let him go a bit prematurely. Just seems like a decent guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esoitl 0 Posted April 20, 2006 fix'd if you're going to edit a quote, at least spell it right TESTICLES thank you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Savage Beast 1 Posted April 20, 2006 if you're going to edit a quote, at least spell it right TESTICLES thank you We all know that Skins fans can't read, wright, or spell worth a crap . They are not very smart, hence the fact they chose the Skins as their favorite team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted April 21, 2006 We all know that Skins fans can't read, wright, or spell worth a crap . They are not very smart, hence the fact they chose the Skins as their favorite team. i sure hope that was on purpose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Savage Beast 1 Posted April 21, 2006 i sure hope that was on purpose. Did i not spell it write? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhostofMeanMachine99 1 Posted April 21, 2006 For Brunell, A Stat That Made a DifferenceLINK April 18, 2006 One of the telltales for the Redskins of 2005 concerned the fact that Clinton Portis and Santana Moss both entered their names into the team record book. Portis rushed for a franchise record 1,516 yards during the regular season, breaking Stephen Davis's mark of 1,432 in 2001. Moss finished with 1,483 receiving yards, edging out Bobby Mitchell's team standard of 1,436 yards, which the Hall of Famer established in 1963. Another player whose performance last year forces you back into the franchise's annals is quarterback Mark Brunell. In his 13th NFL season, Brunell was exceptional in one particular category, i.e., in his ratio of touchdowns to interceptions. He was 23-to-10 on that count. It's a very important stat, given the way the game is played nowdays, with such an emphasis for defenses on pressuring quarterbacks and forcing turnovers. If you look at the history of the Redskins all the way back to 1932, you'll find that only two quarterbacks had a better ratio of TDs to picks. In 1983, Joe Theismann threw for 29 touchdowns and was picked off just 11 times. That '83 team put up 541 points and ranks as one of the best offenses in NFL history. Theismann led the Redskins all the way to Super Bowl XVIII, at which point Washington came up empty in a 38-9 setback to the Los Angeles Raiders. In 1991, Mark Rypien tossed 28 TDs and was intercepted 11 times for a club that eventually trounced Buffalo 37-24 in Super Bowl XXVI. Here's the point: Theismann in 1983 and Rypien in 1991 are the only two quarterbacks in Redskins' history to have put together a better TDs-to-interceptions ratio than than of Brunell in 2005. In the 1970 season, Sonny Jurgensen, like Brunell last season, went 23-10 in that department. And Sonny still holds the Redskins' record for most TD passes in a season (31). He did that in 1967, when he was picked off 16 times. To be fair about it, prior to the modern era of NFL, Sammy Baugh had a season in 1945 in which he threw for 11 touchdowns and was picked off just four times. But that, basically, was before the time of reliance on the forward pass in NFL play. Had it not been for his bad outing at Arizona, in which he was intercepted three times, Brunell would have been even better in his TDs-to-picks totals. Fortunately, the Redskins won that contest against the Cardinals by a score of 17-13. As far as 2005, Brunell helped guide Washington to a 10-6 record and a win in the playoffs, the team's first since 1999. The postseason run came to an end with a 20-10 defeat to the Seahawks in the Divisional Playoffs round. "It was a good learning lesson for us, to be in the playoffs and on the road like that in those environments," the veteran QB said. Brunell played in all 16 regular-season games last year for the first time since 2000. For the season, Brunell completed 262-of-454 passes for 3,050 yards and a QB rating of 85.9. His career QB rating is 84.1. Said Brunell: "Last year was a pretty special season with a great group of guys. I know I feel really proud of this football team and I'm looking forward to getting this going again." Why didn't you include the SB year of 1988 with Doug Williams? Is it because his TD/INT ratio was 15 to 12, thus putting a dent in your theory? Just curious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Portis26 0 Posted April 21, 2006 Why didn't you include the SB year of 1988 with Doug Williams? Is it because his TD/INT ratio was 15 to 12, thus putting a dent in your theory? Just curious. He wasn't the starter all year...Doug only started 5 games prior to the playoffs... Jay Schroeder started 11 games for the Skins that season **Combined they had 23 TDs - 15 Ints** Dougs ratio was NOT 15-12 ; it was 11 TDs to 5 INTs Schroeder had 12TDs & 10 Ints -- ( 3 rushing TDs, while Doug only had 1 rushing TD) LINK P.S.---->it was 1987, not 1988 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe Carcuss 0 Posted April 21, 2006 He wasn't the starter all year...Doug only started 5 games prior to the playoffs... Jay Schroeder started 11 games for the Skins that season **Combined they had 23 TDs - 15 Ints** Doug ratio wasNOT 15-12 ; it was You sound like you are trying to convince yourself that the Skins are a Super Bowl team. I personally don't think they are but that is what is so great about the off-season. Everyone (except the 49ers) has a chance! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Portis26 0 Posted April 21, 2006 You sound like you are trying to convince yourself that the Skins are a Super Bowl team. I personally don't think they are but that is what is so great about the off-season. Everyone (except the 49ers) has a chance! The NFC is wide open, so yes, the Skins are one of 4/5 teams that can represent the NFC in SB41 Redskins Seahawks Carolina Giants Cowboys - its one of those 5 teams -- IMO MAYBE Atlanta could be placed in the mix as well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhostofMeanMachine99 1 Posted April 21, 2006 He wasn't the starter all year...Doug only started 5 games prior to the playoffs... Jay Schroeder started 11 games for the Skins that season **Combined they had 23 TDs - 15 Ints** Dougs ratio was NOT 15-12 ; it was 11 TDs to 5 INTs Schroeder had 12TDs & 10 Ints -- ( 3 rushing TDs, while Doug only had 1 rushing TD) LINK My bad. I think the Redskins are the class of the division this year, especially with the additions on offense. However, the NFC East is gonna be real smashmouth football, and Brunell's accelerated age, I think he goes down this season. To me, Portis is the key. I believe he goes off this year, and the primary reason is the new weapons on offense. From a fantasy perspective, I think Portis will be a top 3 running back this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe Carcuss 0 Posted April 21, 2006 The NFC is wide open, so yes, the Skins are one of 4/5 teams that can represent the NFC in SB41 Redskins Seahawks Carolina Giants Cowboys - its one of those 5 teams -- IMO I don't see the Skins even making the playoffs next season. Right now I have them tied with the Eagles for last in the NFC East. The defense will be tough again this year but I'm still not convinced they have the fire power to score against the better teams even with all of the new WRs (none of which is much better then what they already had in my opinion). If Brunell bounces back for another strong campaign then I will be eating my words but that is a pretty big if.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Portis26 0 Posted April 21, 2006 I don't see the Skins even making the playoffs next season. Right now I have them tied with the Eagles for last in the NFC East. The defense will be tough again this year but I'm still not convinced they have the fire power to score against the better teams even with all of the new WRs (none of which is much better then what they already had in my opinion). If Brunell bounces back for another strong campaign then I will be eating my words but that is a pretty big if.... They loss Arrington, who didn't contribute too much and only added MANY STARTING players in El, Lloyd, Fauria, Archuletta, Carter. but you are intitled to yor opinion, no matter how WRONG i think it is. Name your 6 playoff teams? 4 divisional Champs Seattle Panthers NFC North Winner NFC East Winner - (Cowboys, Giants, Skins) 2 wild cards - NFC East Cowboys, Giants, Skins Tampa or Hotlanta or the other NFC East team I feel confident this season is another playoff season, abnd with a good regular season, Skins could have some home games to boot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taylor36 0 Posted April 21, 2006 Name your 6 playoff teams?4 divisional Champs Seattle Panthers NFC North Winner NFC East Winner - (Cowboys, Giants, Skins) Does it really matter who wins the NFC North?? Chicago had a very respectable record last season but I think most people knew they wouldnt do much in the playoffs. Maybe if Cedric Benson proves his worth then they could have a threat on offense but the defense can only take them so far. With that said I hope the Skins offense can win them the East this year. Its going to be tough but we already know the defense will be solid again. Al Saunders was the biggest addition this season and if they are able to be a top 5 offense with that defense, they are going to be tough to beat. I think it all relies on Brunell's health. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites