Favre speaks out about McNair

[Grateful Parrot 0]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2415604

 

 

Even though I'm a huge Packer fan and would love to see Favre play another year, I feel he needs to take care of his own crap before commenting on other players.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Probably asked to say something by the agent who represents them both. Plus Steve is his friend.

 

Though again, good time to just keep your mouth shut while your own team still does not know what you are doing.

[mdubz 0]

while i agree with what he's saying, he shouldn't be opening his mouth at all until he has made a decision about his own future.

[BennyAndTheJets 0]

Did he not learn from last year about opening his mouth about other players situations? If he has time to sit around and think about McNair then he should have time to sit down and decide whether or not he's going to retire.

[Joe Carcuss 0]

Farve has officially become like Morey in Good Fellas....."He talks so much, nobody even listens to what he says!"

 

It's a shame that a 1st ballet HOFer is ruining his legacy with this kind of nonsense. If he doesn't quit now more people (excluding Packer fans) are going to remember him for screwing over J. Walker and throwing 29 INTs then for his Super Bowl win.

[Wildman 0]

Like they said on ESPN last night, some yahoo reporter stuck a mic in Farve's face and asked the question. If the guy is your friend what are you going to do? I think "no comment" would have been silly. I have to agree with the ESPN crew last night. If someone on the Packers want to tell Favre to make up his mind and this amount of time he's taking is ridicuous, that's cool. Same for Favre answering a question about a friend's situation.

[b.j. booker 0]

Farve has officially become like Morey in Good Fellas....."He talks so much, nobody even listens to what he says!"

 

It's a shame that a 1st ballet HOFer is ruining his legacy with this kind of nonsense. If he doesn't quit now more people (excluding Packer fans) are going to remember him for screwing over J. Walker and throwing 29 INTs then for his Super Bowl win.

 

for the 1,000,000th time, Favre didn't "screw over" walker. What he said was the truth. Walker was being a d*****bag at the time and Walker was the one that went to the media to try and get paid with TWO years left on his contract after having ONE good year, a year where Driver still put up stats that were almost identical. I think Favre should hurry up and make a decision, but no one will remember him for telling Walker that he shouldn't be a whiny b****. (which he was).

[Joe Carcuss 0]

Farve has officially become like Morey in Good Fellas....."He talks so much, nobody even listens to what he says!"

 

It's a shame that a 1st ballet HOFer is ruining his legacy with this kind of nonsense. If he doesn't quit now more people (excluding Packer fans) are going to remember him for screwing over J. Walker and throwing 29 INTs then for his Super Bowl win.

 

Actually, "I don't really want to comment on another guy's situation" would have been the RIGHT response. Same for the Walker situation. I have enjoyed watching Favre leave it all on the field as much as the next guy but I'm getting a little sick of people letting this guy get away with murder just because he is a media darling.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Farve has officially become like Morey in Good Fellas....."He talks so much, nobody even listens to what he says!"

 

It's a shame that a 1st ballet HOFer is ruining his legacy with this kind of nonsense. If he doesn't quit now more people (excluding Packer fans) are going to remember him for screwing over J. Walker and throwing 29 INTs then for his Super Bowl win.

 

The only people he is really ruining his legacy to is those who already dislike the guy in the first place.

 

He did not screw over Javon Walker. Walker did that to himself.

 

Obviously ESPN and people are listening to him...or they would not keep going to him.

 

Everytime he opens his mouth there are several threads here and on every football board about what he said. People are listening. People are talking...and that is why ESPN and others keep going to him and reporting this stuff.

 

 

And was he asked about it? Considering he was in Tennessee and McNair is his good frand and a client of his agent?

 

Actually, "I don't really want to comment on another guy's situation" would have been the RIGHT response. Same for the Walker situation. I have enjoyed watching Favre leave it all on the field as much as the next guy but I'm getting a little sick of people letting this guy get away with murder just because he is a media darling.

 

How is this getting away with murder?

 

Give us a break. He gets criticism for his mistakes on the field...people criticize him all the time for what he says....nobody is giving him any free pass. It is a terrible arguement that keeps getting thrown out there.

[Timinator 0]

I got no problem with Favre's comments whatsoever. It's nice to see somebody speak their mind. He doesn't really go off on the Titans either which shows some control. There are a lot of guys who wish better for McNair--probably many in the Titan offices.

 

Favre is an excellent soundbite precisely because he speaks his mind with decent vocabulary and a certain amount of trustworthiness. That won't stop. Maybe not even after he retires.

[Big Blue 06 195]

It's a shame. I've never been a Packers fan, but I'm really starting to hate Brett Favre. Make up your mind, one way or another, so you'll stop hurting your own team.

[surferskin 30]

he really just needs to STFU and retire.

[Timinator 0]

Make up your mind, one way or another, so you'll stop hurting your own team.

 

Nothing Favre is doing is hurting the team.

 

The Packers need to sign and draft as many good players as possible no matter if Favre or Rodgers is the QB. And it's not like their waiting for him to clear cap space. Thay have $$$ up the wazoo.

[surferskin 30]

Nothing Favre is doing is hurting the team.

 

The Packers need to sign and draft as many good players as possible no matter if Favre or Rodgers is the QB. And it's not like their waiting for him to clear cap space. Thay have $$$ up the wazoo.

 

he's probably not hurting the packers if he plays this year but he sure as hell has hurt them if he retires.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Nothing Favre is doing is hurting the team.

 

The Packers need to sign and draft as many good players as possible no matter if Favre or Rodgers is the QB. And it's not like their waiting for him to clear cap space. Thay have $$$ up the wazoo.

 

Yes...the only real hurt is in that they have not signed a vet backup if he were to retire.

[Stars 0]

I really don't see why it's such a problem if he talks about McNair's situation.

 

Must be a slow news day.

 

Frankly, if you expect all your professionals to be whiter than white can be, then you're either going to have a very bland sport or an awful lot swept under the carpet...

[swirvenirvin 25]

Brett Favre is a TWAT

 

 

I miss that guy

[surferskin 30]

Brett Favre is a TWAT

I miss that guy

[Timinator 0]

but he sure as hell has hurt them if he retires.

 

Not really.

 

With Rodgers, you have maybe a 5-11 team. So Rodgers gets hurt and they go 3-13. The hurt is pretty much the same. The team needs to address OL, LB, WR, CB, S among others no matter what Favre does. A vet QB as backup is not your answer to this kinda hurt.

[Wildman 0]

Yes...the only real hurt is in that they have not signed a vet backup if he were to retire.

 

 

You don't hear that much about other teams not preparing for this ahead of time or being in this situation. GB mishandled this situation. If they felt Favre lost his skills or might not be 100% committed anymore, they needed to make the tough decision rather than put it in the hands of the player. Favre is only taking the amount of time he's been given. He doesn't have to think about everyone else because no one set that expectation for him to do so.

 

If the team said, "Look, we need to know by March." If you don't want to play for us, we'll work something out. If you do, great. If you want to retire, fine.

[surferskin 30]

Not really.

 

With Rodgers, you have maybe a 5-11 team. So Rodgers gets hurt and they go 3-13. The hurt is pretty much the same. The team needs to address OL, LB, WR, CB, S among others no matter what Favre does. A vet QB as backup is not your answer to this kinda hurt.

 

yeah, only having ONE QB (who has never thrown a TD pass) on your roster this late in the year isn't bad for the team.

[Sho Nuff 720]

yeah, only having ONE QB (who has never thrown a TD pass) on your roster this late in the year isn't bad for the team.

 

As was said...what they have missed on is a vet backup.

 

look who has signed....who was all that great who was going to come in and be a backup to Rodgers?

 

Greise and McCown is about who it comes down to. Kitna and Brooks were not coming to GB to be a backup.

 

Damn...they also missed on Sage and Anthony Wright.

 

Collins is still out there (and Id prefer him over Greise or McCown at this point anyway).

 

So no...having one QB (they actually have 3 on the roster right now and one over in NFLE) is not too big of a worry in April.

[surferskin 30]

As was said...what they have missed on is a vet backup.

 

look who has signed....who was all that great who was going to come in and be a backup to Rodgers?

 

Greise and McCown is about who it comes down to. Kitna and Brooks were not coming to GB to be a backup.

 

Damn...they also missed on Sage and Anthony Wright.

 

Collins is still out there (and Id prefer him over Greise or McCown at this point anyway).

 

So no...having one QB (they actually have 3 on the roster right now and one over in NFLE) is not too big of a worry in April.

 

whether or not you loved any of the veteran FA qb's doesn't matter...they are going to be 10x better than anyone you guys can get now...but that doesn't hurt the team.

[Sho Nuff 720]

whether or not you loved any of the veteran FA qb's doesn't matter...they are going to be 10x better than anyone you guys can get now...but that doesn't hurt the team.

 

They are going to be 10 X better? Ok...you are the true scout I guess.

 

Kerry Collins is not 10X worse than Greise (who will be backing up Grossman), or McCown who is backing up Kitna.

 

10 X better?

 

 

Get a clue.

[TerrySilver 0]

i dont see anything wrong with what farve said. he's right; mcnair is getting screwed by management.

[murf74 461]

i dont see anything wrong with what farve said. he's right; mcnair is getting screwed by management.

 

Yeah McNair is not being treated fair, but Favre has no business speaking out about it. It would be like a GM of another team coming out and speaking down on Favre for his handling of his situation.

[Stars 0]

Yeah McNair is not being treated fair, but Favre has no business speaking out about it. It would be like a GM of another team coming out and speaking down on Favre for his handling of his situation.

 

Don't think so actually. For two reasons:

 

- Players are players, GMs are businessmen and represent the organisations. An organisation has no business talking about the commercial dealings of another organisation and its staff. But players don't represent the organisations in the same way - and/or it's a fcuked up world if everyone expects them to.

 

- A GM could really screw his organisation if he spoke out of turn against a player. What would happen if the opportunity then came (or would have come) to trade for the player - but the GM had shot the team in the foot? It would be unprofessional. Whereas a player has the right, if he wants, to screw his own potential career by sounding out against one team or other - the difference between personal responsibility (when you've got yourself to blame) and fiduciary responsibility (when you could leave a legacy for others).

 

I genuinely think everyone's being way OTT on this. In England this kind of thing happens every once in a while, and nobody thinks worse of the players for it.

[surferskin 30]

They are going to be 10 X better? Ok...you are the true scout I guess.

 

Kerry Collins is not 10X worse than Greise (who will be backing up Grossman), or McCown who is backing up Kitna.

 

10 X better?

 

 

Get a clue.

 

so it's kerry collins or bust...good luck with that.

[swamp dog 0]

what's next? favre giving his opinion on global warming? the north american trade agreement? what doesn't favre have an opinion on these days? that might be a shorter list.

 

for having such a shiatload of things figured out...you think he could figure out whether or not he actually wants to play anymore.

 

free tip, brett: stick to that one thing and get that issue solved before solving everyone elses problems.

[murf74 461]

so it's kerry collins or bust...good luck with that.

 

I thought Collins was all but retired?

 

I get it, maybe Collins will come back if the Packers make a couple big free agent signings like Reggie White.

[miket7 0]

Favre's comments reveal EXACTLY what is wrong with his mindset in the first place (in both his situation and in McNair's).

 

 

He believes that because he and McNair have been big name players/stars, that the team owners and organization should bow to their every wish.

Favre thinks that because he HELPED them win a ring, and has a couple of MVP awards, that somehow the Packers are indebted to him.

 

That is complete and utter bull.

 

He got paid (and paid very well), to play his heart out and try to help the team win championships. He succeeded in helping the Packers do that only ONCE. The rest of his career, the team failed in reaching that goal. (I'm not even going to point out how many of their playoff losses were heavily caused by his interception fests...)

 

Now, he is hurting more than 50 teammates; not to mention the coaches, trainers, owners, and thousands of Packers fans...who would like to see their team go back and win the Super Bowl. (Even if the Packers don't have a shot this year, his lack of decision making hurts their ability to plan for the future and test Aaron Rogers).

Why, because he thinks the team owes him.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Yeah McNair is not being treated fair, but Favre has no business speaking out about it. It would be like a GM of another team coming out and speaking down on Favre for his handling of his situation.

 

No...it would be like a player speaking out about Favre.

 

He was asked the question, about a friend...he answered it. To say he had no business to say that McNair deserves better is ridiculous.

 

so it's kerry collins or bust...good luck with that.

 

Never did I say that...just that he is a good option as a backup.

 

what's next? favre giving his opinion on global warming? the north american trade agreement? what doesn't favre have an opinion on these days? that might be a shorter list.

 

for having such a shiatload of things figured out...you think he could figure out whether or not he actually wants to play anymore.

 

free tip, brett: stick to that one thing and get that issue solved before solving everyone elses problems.

 

 

Free tip...if someone asks him about other issues...he will probably answer.

 

And they ask him because they know they will get a candid response...and it will generate talk about their story.

[murf74 461]

No...it would be like a player speaking out about Favre.

 

He was asked the question, about a friend...he answered it. To say he had no business to say that McNair deserves better is ridiculous.

 

No, he was speaking against the Titans fanchise as much as he was talking about his friend. Whatever the case, why say anything at all....it still is none of his business. He could have just said, I hope the best for Steve, he is a great player. He is getting into areas he has no business being in.

 

To you Favre can do no wrong.

[swamp dog 0]

it was funny as hell watching fisher diplomatically smack favre on espn last night. brett said that mcnair was "about the only good player the tians have had" during mcanair's tenure. fisher listed off a bunch of good players. and then hinted that favre has his own problems to work through right now. crassic!

 

maybe favre is being so free with his thoughts because he's back on the meds...?

 

i'm been a favre fan for a long time...but he needs to shut his pie hole about the state of the nfl and other nfl players and figure out who the fock he is and what he wants to do when he grows up.

[murf74 461]

it was funny as hell watching fisher diplomatically smack favre on espn last night. brett said that mcnair was "about the only good player the tians have had" during mcanair's tenure. fisher listed off a bunch of good players. and then hinted that favre has his own problems to work through right now. crassic!

 

maybe favre is being so free with his thoughts because he's back on the meds...?

 

Sho Nuff will say Favre has earned the right to rip every Tenn Titan player who ever spent a game in their uniform. I am sure Eddie George, Bruce Matthews, Derrick Mason, S. Rolle, and Jevon Kearse appreciate those comments. Or heck how bout Earl Campbell and the Houston Oilers too? Same franchise.

 

Fisher's response was a polite smack right back in Favre's face.

 

He got paid (and paid very well), to play his heart out and try to help the team win championships. He succeeded in helping the Packers do that only ONCE. The rest of his career, the team failed in reaching that goal. (I'm not even going to point out how many of their playoff losses were heavily caused by his interception fests...)

 

Have you ever seen so much credit extended for a guy with only one Superbowl win? Nice deal for him. Free pass for life.

[Sho Nuff 720]

To you Favre can do no wrong.

 

BS. But in this situation...there is nothing wrong with what he has said.

 

Sho Nuff will say Favre has earned the right to rip every Tenn Titan player who ever spent a game in their uniform. I am sure Eddie George, Bruce Matthews, Derrick Mason, S. Rolle, and Jevon Kearse appreciate those comments. Or heck how bout Earl Campbell and the Houston Oilers too? Same franchise.

 

Not at all would I say such a thing...Earl Campbell? Yeah...that is relevant...he played a long time with McNair didn't he?

 

Come up with an arguement that has some basis in fact....then get back to me.

 

Fisher's response was a polite smack right back in Favre's face.

Have you ever seen so much credit extended for a guy with only one Superbowl win? Nice deal for him. Free pass for life.

 

Free pass? Never does he have a free pass...that is a very foolish myth to some people. The guy takes his lumps...by fans and the haters.

 

The credit extended to him has more behind it than just one SB title. If that is all you think he has done for the Packers you are sadly mistaken.

[Joe Carcuss 0]

BS. But in this situation...there is nothing wrong with what he has said.

Not at all would I say such a thing...Earl Campbell? Yeah...that is relevant...he played a long time with McNair didn't he?

 

Come up with an arguement that has some basis in fact....then get back to me.

Free pass? Never does he have a free pass...that is a very foolish myth to some people. The guy takes his lumps...by fans and the haters.

 

The credit extended to him has more behind it than just one SB title. If that is all you think he has done for the Packers you are sadly mistaken.

 

OK, we get it. You REALLY like B. Favre. I have enjoyed watching him over the years as well but it's time for him to move on......

[Sho Nuff 720]

OK, we get it. You REALLY like B. Favre. I have enjoyed watching him over the years as well but it's time for him to move on......

 

No...you and some others obviously do not get it. I do like Brett Favre...I respect the man for what he has done. And as part of watching him over the years realize that he will answer about any question asked of him and do it quite candidly.

[swamp dog 0]

No...you and some others obviously do not get it. I do like Brett Favre...I respect the man for what he has done. And as part of watching him over the years realize that he will answer about any question asked of him and do it quite candidly.

 

what about favre saying mcnair was the only thing the titans had during mcnair's time with the titans?

 

i guess i find it amusing that i haven't yet heard you say ANYWHERE that favre has made ANY mistakes. ever.

 

you picked on the earl campbell quote above but completely ignored the rest of the list. so: is favre right about mcnair being the only good player--the only thing going--with the titans now and during the time of mcnair's tenure there?

 

yes or no.

[HawgWild 0]

I am a Favre fan and while I don't think what he said is that big of a deal I do think he should just quit commenting on other players situations... At least until he clears up his own situation for sure... Just my 2 cents...