Mephisto 15 Posted May 9, 2006 Hey, you get suckered by a "good" month (in small stakes terms, of course). At times, I've played wreckless. The following could be considered one of those times, but my dinner was just about finished and I took a stab. But the number of times "creepy" beats like this occur can only leave one wondering. The following has happened 3 times in recent weeks, and I had my ASS all-in in each case, typically giving back most of days' worth of earnings. THANKFULLY, to control my occasional wreckless urges, I only bring $10 to the table so I'm not tossing a C-Note on the table on a lark. High-end full houses shouldn't get beaten by 4 o'kind on the river this often. Seat 1: Woody And ($6.75 in chips) Seat 2: tommyJ1975 ($25.90 in chips) Seat 3: goodluckok ($25.60 in chips) Seat 4: cant u ... ($18.30 in chips) Seat 5: NoRushes ($15 in chips) Seat 6: qwert61 ($12.75 in chips) Seat 7: sid2377 ($25 in chips) Seat 8: xMEPHISTOx [KD,KC] ($9.50 in chips) Seat 9: Xxx10JQKAxxX ($13.65 in chips) Seat 10: FittyCent777 ($15.90 in chips) ANTES/BLINDS Xxx10JQKAxxX posts blind ($0.15), FittyCent777 posts blind ($0.25), sid2377 posts blind ($0.25). PRE-FLOP Woody And calls $0.25, tommyJ1975 folds, goodluckok folds, cant u ... folds, NoRushes folds, qwert61 bets $1, sid2377 folds, xMEPHISTOx calls $1, Xxx10JQKAxxX folds, FittyCent777 folds, Woody And folds. FLOP [board cards QS,7C,4H ] qwert61 bets $1, xMEPHISTOx bets $2, qwert61 bets $3, xMEPHISTOx bets $6.50 and is all-in, qwert61 calls $4.50. TURN [board cards QS,7C,4H,KS ] RIVER [board cards QS,7C,4H,KS,QD ] SHOWDOWN xMEPHISTOx shows [ KD,KC ] qwert61 shows [ QC,QH ] qwert61 wins $19.40. SUMMARY Dealer: xMEPHISTOx Pot: $19.90, (including rake: $0.50) Woody And, loses $0.25 tommyJ1975, loses $0 goodluckok, loses $0 cant u ..., loses $0 NoRushes, loses $0 qwert61, bets $9.50, collects $19.40, net $9.90 sid2377, loses $0.25 xMEPHISTOx, loses $9.50 Xxx10JQKAxxX, loses $0.15 FittyCent777, loses $0.25 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Birdseed 1 Posted May 9, 2006 Have they given back your "chat" privilege? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
George Carlin 1 Posted May 9, 2006 You suck and poker and suck even more at life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mephisto 15 Posted May 9, 2006 Have they given back your "chat" privilege? My GOD and I thought I remembered things a long time! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Birdseed 1 Posted May 9, 2006 My GOD and I thought I remembered things a long time! I witnessed some of those beatdowns and will nevah forget. LMFAO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giants Fan 85 Posted May 9, 2006 It's called a bad beat. Happens in RL poker too. You know what the odds are pre-flop, pair of twos against big slick? Pair of two's has the advantage ... says the odds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mephisto 15 Posted May 9, 2006 It's called a bad beat. Happens in RL poker too. You know what the odds are pre-flop, pair of twos against big slick? Pair of two's has the advantage ... says the odds. 52% to win against anything other than a higher PP. Ass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,031 Posted May 9, 2006 Does this even count as a bad beat? You went all in with the worst hand. Then you got lucky and pulled ahead. When you went all-in, you had about a 4% chance of winning, no? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,366 Posted May 9, 2006 I didn't read your post but let me guess you had the best hand until the one or two cards that could of saved him came up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SayChowda 0 Posted May 9, 2006 Did you go "zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giants Fan 85 Posted May 9, 2006 52% to win against anything other than a higher PP. Ass. So .. would you feel more comfortable going all in with a pair of 2's rather than big slick? Does this even count as a bad beat? You went all in with the worst hand. Then you got lucky and pulled ahead. When you went all-in, you had about a 4% chance of winning, no? Not really. Just as you said ... you might as well flip a coin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeminiV 0 Posted May 9, 2006 So .. would you feel more comfortable going all in with a pair of 2's rather than big slick? Of course not. The quality of a pre-flop all-in hand is determined by how good it is relative to other hands a person might go all-in with. A pair of two's doesn't dominate any hand that an opponent might reasonably go all-in with, and is dominated by any higher pair. Big slick dominates Ax and Kx, has a solid advantage against any other unpaired hand, and is basically even with every pair from 22 to QQ. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giants Fan 85 Posted May 9, 2006 So do you think suited conectors are undervalued? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,031 Posted May 9, 2006 Not really. Just as you said ... you might as well flip a coin. I don't think I ever said that, but he went all in after the flop, he had a pair of Kings versus three Queens. He is a severe underdog at this point. Only two cards in the deck can help him. He happened to hit one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giants Fan 85 Posted May 9, 2006 That's why it's called "gambling". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,031 Posted May 9, 2006 That's why it's called a "non-sequitor" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted May 9, 2006 I don't think I ever said that, but he went all in after the flop, he had a pair of Kings versus three Queens. He is a severe underdog at this point. Only two cards in the deck can help him. He happened to hit one. Exactly. Now I was on the other end of one in a sit n go at Hollywood Casino in Tunica this past weekend. I ended up winning it with my buddy finishing 2nd. Down to 4 left, top 3 cash...I had a decent chip lead on 2nd place...3rd and 4th were not all that great....blinds were 500-1000. I had about 6K and on the button. Not two seconds after saying I was going to go a bit more conservative and let one of the short stacks make their play and get out...I get dealt KK. I push 3000 out there...SB folds...BB calls the additional 1500 and flips over AA. Thankfully I flopped a K and the trips held up....just killed the other guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mephisto 15 Posted May 9, 2006 I don't think I ever said that, but he went all in after the flop, he had a pair of Kings versus three Queens. He is a severe underdog at this point. Only two cards in the deck can help him. He happened to hit one. I went all-in because I was lazy and the flop contained nothing (at that point) that could beat me short of his having PP Qs. Unfortunately for me, he had PP Qs. I didn't go all-in knowingly against the three Qs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted May 9, 2006 You can't lose if you don't play! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,541 Posted May 9, 2006 That sucks for you. On the bright side, I just won the tourney I played. Stage #396821186 Tourney ID 60547 Holdem Single Tournament No Limit $600 - 2006-05-09 09:42:01 (ET)Table: 7170748 (Real Money) Seat #4 is the dealer Seat 2 - ANGELAAA ($5960 in chips) Seat 4 - KUTULU ($7540 in chips) KUTULU - Posts small blind $600 ANGELAAA - Posts big blind $1200 *** POCKET CARDS *** Dealt to KUTULU [Ac 7c] KUTULU - Calls $600 ANGELAAA - Raises $2400 to $3600 KUTULU - Raises $6000 to $7200 ANGELAAA - All-In $2360 KUTULU - returned ($1240) : not called *** FLOP *** [Jh Qs 7s] *** TURN *** [Jh Qs 7s] [7d] *** RIVER *** [Jh Qs 7s 7d] [5d] *** SHOW DOWN *** ANGELAAA - Shows [Qc 10h] (Two Pair, queens and sevens) KUTULU - Shows [Ac 7c] (Three of a kind, sevens) KUTULU Collects $11920 from main pot *** SUMMARY *** Total Pot($11920) Board [Jh Qs 7s 7d 5d] Seat 2: ANGELAAA (big blind) HI:lost with Two Pair, queens and sevens [Qc 10h - B:Qs,P:Qc,B:7s,B:7d,B:Jh] Seat 4: KUTULU (dealer) (small blind) won Total ($11920) HI:($11920) with Three of a kind, sevens [Ac 7c - B:7s,B:7d,P:7c,P:Ac,B:Qs] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redtodd 7 Posted May 9, 2006 I wouldn't call that a bad beat. It would have been a bad beat for him had you ended up winning after he got his 3rd Queen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,541 Posted May 10, 2006 Played 5 sit and go tourneys today (9 player tables) 3 a 2nd place and a 3rd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites