jgcrawfish 232 Posted June 14, 2006 Not that this matters, but technically, it's not alright to use "irregardless", because it's not a word. But enough grammar for today. As a DHSF (Die Hard Steeler Fan), this injury to Ben tears me apart, but it's not unexpected. How many of us were 24 year olds who didn't do anything self-destructive? Now, how many of us were wearing a SB ring and had a million dollar checkbook. The best you can hope for is that he makes a swift, complete recover and that he saw his life flash before his eyes. I hate putting too much credance in the sage-like wisdom of Terry Bradshaw, but the guy is right, there's plenty of time to ride your bike after you retire. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Franknbeans 46 Posted June 15, 2006 irregardless One entry found for irregardless. Main Entry: ir·re·gard·less Pronunciation: "ir-i-'gärd-l&s Function: adverb Etymology: probably blend of irrespective and regardless nonstandard : REGARDLESS usage Irregardless originated in dialectal American speech in the early 20th century. Its fairly widespread use in speech called it to the attention of usage commentators as early as 1927. The most frequently repeated remark about it is that "there is no such word." There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech, although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its reputation has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless instead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan 66 Posted June 15, 2006 Ben out of hospital; soft food diet Had this cool idea that it might be good to know what is actually happening. Looks like he's going to be all right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted June 15, 2006 irregardlessOne entry found for irregardless. Main Entry: ir·re·gard·less Pronunciation: "ir-i-'gärd-l&s Function: adverb Etymology: probably blend of irrespective and regardless nonstandard : REGARDLESS usage Irregardless originated in dialectal American speech in the early 20th century. Its fairly widespread use in speech called it to the attention of usage commentators as early as 1927. The most frequently repeated remark about it is that "there is no such word." There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech, although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its reputation has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless instead. No, forget Ben, let's keep debating use of the word/non-word "irregardless". Nothing is more entertaining on an FF board than grammar lessons. While we're at it, let's discuss people who mispronounce the word "supposedly" by replacing the "d" with a "b" or "v" (making it supposevly or supposebly). Or, perhaps we could talk about my psychotic, nymphomaniac ex-girlfriend who said "non chalamply". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smashmouths@blf 33 Posted June 15, 2006 I have a friend who thinks "Flusterated" is a word. That dirty no good Focker!! I hate him!! Glad Ben's O.k. Go Steelers! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Franknbeans 46 Posted June 15, 2006 No, forget Ben, let's keep debating use of the word/non-word "irregardless". Nothing is more entertaining on an FF board than grammar lessons. While we're at it, let's discuss people who mispronounce the word "supposedly" by replacing the "d" with a "b" or "v" (making it supposevly or supposebly). Or, perhaps we could talk about my psychotic, nymphomaniac ex-girlfriend who said "non chalamply". I vote for the girlfriend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted June 15, 2006 I have a friend who thinks "Flusterated" is a word. That dirty no good Focker!! I hate him!! Glad Ben's O.k. Go Steelers! Funny part is that i figured i'd get some requests for the name/# of my psychotic-nymphomaniac ex-girlfriend. I vote for the girlfriend. See... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FantasyKing 4 Posted June 15, 2006 The following statement was released by Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger on Thursday: "In the past few days, I have gained a new perspective on life. By the grace of God, I am fortunate to be alive, surrounded by loved ones and lifted by the prayers and support of so many. I am sorry for any anxiety and concern my actions have caused others, specifically my family, the Steelers organization, my teammates and our fans. I recognize that I have a responsibility to safeguard my health in the offseason so I can continue to lead our team effectively. I never meant any harm to others nor to break any laws. I was confident in my ability to ride a motorcycle and simply believed such an accident would not happen to me. If I ever ride again, it certainly will be with a helmet. My deepest appreciation goes out to the Steelers organization and my teammates for the compassion they have shown me. The physicians and support staff at Mercy Hospital were simply amazing, and I will forever be grateful for their caring treatment. I want to assure everyone I am committed to a complete and timely recovery. I look forward to being at training camp in Latrobe and to winning football games this season. " Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pokey55 0 Posted June 15, 2006 I thought that was a very mature statement to make; I hope it was sincere as well. Ben has always struck me as a reasonably level headed dude, so hopefully he has learned a lesson here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mggoilers 0 Posted June 15, 2006 Steelers fans...clean slate? that sounded pretty sincere. I guess T.O. didn't write his apology. I hope the Steelers lose every game, but hey...they probably won't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murf74 461 Posted June 16, 2006 Steelers fans...clean slate? that sounded pretty sincere. I guess T.O. didn't write his apology. I hope the Steelers lose every game, but hey...they probably won't. I know what his frame of mind was, 24 years, on top of the world nothing can happen to you.........I really hope he has matured and seen what is really important in his life (like his life himself). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
football_scooter 0 Posted June 16, 2006 Hey Scooter, Irregardless is a word that can be used in casual writing which is why I chose to use it here. link The word irregardless was actually discussed in a previous thread in this forum. Get your facts straight. Try looking it up. I'm not suprised you're just throwing out opinions with no supporting evidence. One more thing, you said: "I wonder what his deductable was?" You spelled deductible wrong. You put a question mark at the end of a sentence that isn't asking a question; and you ended the sentence with a preposition which is also incorrect grammar. You should police your use of grammar. Get your facts straight or just go back to 7th-grade grammar class. And support your arguments or opinions with facts. The only alternative and I think that many members would agree with me on this: just shut up! Sorry - bzzzzzzzzzzzt! It is part of common vernacular - but that just means there's a lot of uneducated people ignorant to the fact that it isn't a word, so they use it as one...commonly and "casually" - but it's still not a word. Here ya go: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/irregardless ir·re·gard·less ( P ) Pronunciation Key (r-gärdls)adv. Nonstandard Regardless. [Probably blend of irrespective, and regardless.] Usage Note: Irregardless is a word that many mistakenly believe to be correct usage in formal style, when in fact it is used chiefly in nonstandard speech or casual writing. Coined in the United States in the early 20th century, it has met with a blizzard of condemnation for being an improper yoking of irrespective and regardless and for the logical absurdity of combining the negative ir- prefix and -less suffix in a single term. Although one might reasonably argue that it is no different from words with redundant affixes like debone and unravel, it has been considered a blunder for decades and will probably continue to be so. so thanks, but English was a good subject for me in college - no need for 7th grade repetition. My spelling sucks, so correct away. And my sentence with a "?" most certainly was a question - perhaps rhetorical, but it still gets the Q mark, so bzzzzzt again. lol But regardless of that and irrespective of what you might think, irregardless is a made up nonsense word. Think it through - irregardless...what do you intend it to mean? In the context in which it was used, it meant "regardless". It's a double negative though, so you're saying the opposite of what you intend to mean if you use it in this way. Without lack of regard? Just because something is said wrong, often, it doesn't make it right. No offense intended to anyone - when I posted that it wasn't the word it was with humor. Thus the grammar police comment. Everyone can carry on with your love or hate of Big Ben now, please. Or, perhaps we could talk about my psychotic, nymphomaniac ex-girlfriend who said "non chalamply". Psychotic nymphomaniac? I wanna met that girl. And uh, hang out with her for a little over 24 hours. no more. could get scary. but the 1st 24 must be a party. lol Oh, and I've heard plenty of executives use "irregardless" and I cringe every time. These are usually people with doctorates and masters degrees. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mggoilers 0 Posted June 16, 2006 Sorry - bzzzzzzzzzzzt! It is part of common vernacular - but that just means there's a lot of uneducated people ignorant to the fact that it isn't a word, so they use it as one...commonly and "casually" - but it's still not a word. Here ya go: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/irregardless so thanks, but English was a good subject for me in college - no need for 7th grade repetition. My spelling sucks, so correct away. And my sentence with a "?" most certainly was a question - perhaps rhetorical, but it still gets the Q mark, so bzzzzzt again. lol But regardless of that and irrespective of what you might think, irregardless is a made up nonsense word. Think it through - irregardless...what do you intend it to mean? In the context in which it was used, it meant "regardless". It's a double negative though, so you're saying the opposite of what you intend to mean if you use it in this way. Without lack of regard? Just because something is said wrong, often, it doesn't make it right. No offense intended to anyone - when I posted that it wasn't the word it was with humor. Thus the grammar police comment. Everyone can carry on with your love or hate of Big Ben now, please. Psychotic nymphomaniac? I wanna met that girl. And uh, hang out with her for a little over 24 hours. no more. could get scary. but the 1st 24 must be a party. lol Oh, and I've heard plenty of executives use "irregardless" and I cringe every time. These are usually people with doctorates and masters degrees. Is this how "bored" got started? Take the English language discussions to one of the periphery "boreds". Maroons Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
football_scooter 0 Posted June 16, 2006 Is this how "bored" got started? Take the English language discussions to one of the periphery "boreds". Maroons Well this topic has pretty well been beaten to death...I mean let's summarize: 1. Ben rides motorcycles 2. without a helmet, universally agreed upon to be a "dumb move". 3. lady cut him off, BAM! no more face. 4. FFT-ers are A. praying/hoping for the best or B. using this as an opportunity to bash on the guy. 5. released from the hospital 6. debate over the word "irregardless". Any more reason to keep talking about the accident? How about "Less"? Like, it should not be misused for fewer. "He had less men than in the previous campaign." should be "He had fewer men than in the previous campaign." Less refers to quantity, fewer to number. "His troubles are less than mine" means "His troubles are not so great as mine." "His troubles are fewer than mine" means "His troubles are not so numerous as mine." It is, however, correct to say, "The signers of the petition were less than a hundred, "where the round number, a hundred, is something like a collective noun, and less is thought of as meaning a less quantity or amount. So the next time someone tells you they expect "less" TDs from a player this year, point them to this post. (yes, I am indeed bored, sorry) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan 66 Posted June 16, 2006 Just because something is said wrong, often, it doesn't make it right. Shouldn't it be wrongly? It being an adverb and all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
famousb 11 Posted June 16, 2006 Just because something is said wrongly, often, it doesn't make it right. and "right" is a direction. A better usage would be "proper" or "correct"... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
football_scooter 0 Posted June 16, 2006 Aha! Dan & Famous, I feel smarter already...you two must've stayed at a Holliday Inn last night. thanks guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites