Let Other Clowns Take These Guys on Draft Day

[The Epic Tradition 0]

There have been some mocks I've seen that these guys continue to be taken too high. I have a true gut feeling that they'll really flop:

 

No particular order:

 

Joey Galloway (Clayton re-emerges, and Joey is getting older)

Santana Moss (won't approach last years numbers)

Willis McGahee (on that team? Please)

Joe Horn (wouldn't touch him. Stallworth should go higher. . . and it's not close)

Darrell Jackson (not a total bust, but I've seen some mags where he goes before Chambers and Wayne!)

Trent Green (Didn't upgrade their Wrs, Herm Edwards IS now his coach, nuff said)

Edgerrin James (he's been going way too high. When was the last time Arizona had a stud fantasy RB? Also, as soon as Hearst and Thomas Jones got out of the desert, their stats rose noticeably)

Kevin Jones (if Martz can ignore Marshall Faulk in his prime, certainly he can ignore KJ)

Jamal Lewis (was brutal even before they gave Mike Anderson a decent-sized contract)

[Rookie QB 0]

Agree one Galloway & Moss. McGahee didn't have a bad season just no TDs. I'd draft Joe Horn in a redraft league. Darrell Jackson will have a good year, if healthy, (1200 8 TDs). Trent Green will be 'solid', not blockbuster. I'm not going to touch Edgerrin as well. Unsure about Kevin Jones & Jamal Lewis.

 

I'd also add Javon Walker.

Knee Surgery + Denver Offense + Rod Smith + Jake Plummer = Bad Fantasy Year

[harken34 0]

Is thsi for real

[The Epic Tradition 0]

Agree one Galloway & Moss. McGahee didn't have a bad season just no TDs. I'd draft Joe Horn in a redraft league. Darrell Jackson will have a good year, if healthy, (1200 8 TDs). Trent Green will be 'solid', not blockbuster. I'm not going to touch Edgerrin as well. Unsure about Kevin Jones & Jamal Lewis.

 

I'd also add Javon Walker.

Knee Surgery + Denver Offense + Rod Smith + Jake Plummer = Bad Fantasy Year

Yes, I agree on Javon Walker. Rod Smith has been Plummer's security blanket for too long. Walker is looking at something like 60 and 6, I think.

 

Watch out for Burleson to impact Darrell Jackson some. Not to mention that Jackson can't seem to stay healthy. As I said, not a total bust, but to go before Chambers and Wayne? Insanity!

 

You're unsure about Kevin Jones and Jamal Lewis for a reason. . . they will be busts.

[Duffman 0]

Is thsi for real

 

 

OOoohhh yaaaaa (do I say that, harken??)

 

This is why I hate these types of threads. DJAX on this list, u funny man!!

[gatorbait7391 0]

yea galloway, horn, and green I can see also maybe moss. but the others are ridiculous.

[remote controller 143]

There have been some mocks I've seen that these guys continue to be taken too high. I have a true gut feeling that they'll really flop:

 

No particular order:

 

Joey Galloway (Clayton re-emerges, and Joey is getting older)

Santana Moss (won't approach last years numbers)

Willis McGahee (on that team? Please)

Joe Horn (wouldn't touch him. Stallworth should go higher. . . and it's not close)

Darrell Jackson (not a total bust, but I've seen some mags where he goes before Chambers and Wayne!)

Trent Green (Didn't upgrade their Wrs, Herm Edwards IS now his coach, nuff said)

Edgerrin James (he's been going way too high. When was the last time Arizona had a stud fantasy RB? Also, as soon as Hearst and Thomas Jones got out of the desert, their stats rose noticeably)

Kevin Jones (if Martz can ignore Marshall Faulk in his prime, certainly he can ignore KJ)

Jamal Lewis (was brutal even before they gave Mike Anderson a decent-sized contract)

 

Be sure to post "your" draft for circus entertainment potential.

[gtthom86 5]

magahee will be better than last year. mularky was a clown with play calling, especially in the red zone. improved line and a non-retarded coach will help get willis at least 10 TDs

[remote controller 143]

magahee will be better than last year. mularky was a clown with play calling, especially in the red zone. improved line and a non-retarded coach will help get willis at least 10 TDs

He isn't really pushed by any backup to speak of.

[shadow2k 0]

Watch out for Burleson to impact Darrell Jackson some. Not to mention that Jackson can't seem to stay healthy. As I said, not a total bust, but to go before Chambers and Wayne? Insanity!

 

 

Burleson doesn't even worry opposing defenses, why would any DJax owners be concerned?

 

As far as DJax's health... Well, he's missed three games in five years prior to last year. So it's not a question of whether he can "stay healthy". It's a question of whether he's back to being healthy. If he's fully recovered, he's top 10 WR easy. But if I drafted today, I'd drop him down a few pegs, because we haven't seen him on the field in pads taking shots to that knee.

[monk 1]

There have been some mocks I've seen that these guys continue to be taken too high. I have a true gut feeling that they'll really flop:

 

No particular order:

 

Joey Galloway (Clayton re-emerges, and Joey is getting older)

Santana Moss (won't approach last years numbers)

Willis McGahee (on that team? Please)

Joe Horn (wouldn't touch him. Stallworth should go higher. . . and it's not close)

Darrell Jackson (not a total bust, but I've seen some mags where he goes before Chambers and Wayne!)

Trent Green (Didn't upgrade their Wrs, Herm Edwards IS now his coach, nuff said)

Edgerrin James (he's been going way too high. When was the last time Arizona had a stud fantasy RB? Also, as soon as Hearst and Thomas Jones got out of the desert, their stats rose noticeably)

Kevin Jones (if Martz can ignore Marshall Faulk in his prime, certainly he can ignore KJ)

Jamal Lewis (was brutal even before they gave Mike Anderson a decent-sized contract)

 

I agree most with Edge ...What makes people think going from one of the best running teams in the league to one of the worst will not affect his performance - He should be going in the late 2nd or early 3rd rounds.

 

Jamal Lewis - Is a lazy out of shape piece of garbage. I'd take a chance as a #2 or 3 RB in the 4th round

 

Kevin Jones is a mystery ... Was it the Coach, The Team, or Jones. Supposedly he is very talented if Martz uses him like Faulk in the good years he could be one of the best Value picks availble. Late 2nd or early 3rd

 

Willis Mcghee - Could be great but the team sucks! Good Value if you could get him in 2nd big risk in the 1st.

 

All of the WR you mention should be considered #2's and should not be touched before the 4th or 5th rounds in this order (Moss, Jackson, Horn, Galloway)

 

Trent Green should drop a couple of noctches with Herm.

[The Epic Tradition 0]

OOoohhh yaaaaa (do I say that, harken??)

 

This is why I hate these types of threads. DJAX on this list, u funny man!!

So, you're high on DJax? Okay. Go ahead and take him. My point is that he is being mentioned in the same breath and has been going in about the same area as Wayne and Chambers. . . that is a joke.

[Raider 84 29]

I agree except, I believe James will have a good season. He might not put up familiar number like he did in Indy, but he won't be a bust.

[Kellys Heroes 0]

Willis McGahee (on that team? Please)

Joe Horn (wouldn't touch him. Stallworth should go higher. . . and it's not close)

Darrell Jackson (not a total bust, but I've seen some mags where he goes before Chambers and Wayne!)

Trent Green (Didn't upgrade their Wrs, Herm Edwards IS now his coach, nuff said)

 

 

Ihope your my league, these guys are excellent value right now.

[Ras66not99 0]

So, you're high on DJax? Okay. Go ahead and take him. My point is that he is being mentioned in the same breath and has been going in about the same area as Wayne and Chambers. . . that is a joke.

 

He's being mentioned in the same breath with those guys because he will have similar numbers as them.... man isn't this a great country we live in

[Vikings4ever 550]

I find it hilarious that people are giving this guy crap for posting a bust list. The fact is, one person's guess is as good as the next.

 

If I'd posted last year that McAllister, McGahee, Domanick Davis, Jamal Lewis, Randy Moss, Kevin Jones, Ahman Green, Terrell Owens, Daunte Culpepper, Curtis Martin, Donovan McNabb, Joe Horn, Javon Walker, Andre Johnson, DeShaun Foster, and JJ Arrington would all crap out, I would have been labeled a moron.

[Damifiknow 0]

I find it hilarious that people are giving this guy crap for posting a bust list. The fact is, one person's guess is as good as the next.

 

If I'd posted last year that McAllister, McGahee, Domanick Davis, Jamal Lewis, Randy Moss, Kevin Jones, Ahman Green, Terrell Owens, Daunte Culpepper, Curtis Martin, Donovan McNabb, Joe Horn, Javon Walker, Andre Johnson, DeShaun Foster, and JJ Arrington would all crap out, I would have been labeled a moron.

 

Touche if I ever saw one!

[DA BALLHOG 0]

I find it hilarious that people are giving this guy crap for posting a bust list. The fact is, one person's guess is as good as the next.

 

If I'd posted last year that McAllister, McGahee, Domanick Davis, Jamal Lewis, Randy Moss, Kevin Jones, Ahman Green, Terrell Owens, Daunte Culpepper, Curtis Martin, Donovan McNabb, Joe Horn, Javon Walker, Andre Johnson, DeShaun Foster, and JJ Arrington would all crap out, I would have been labeled a moron.

 

 

 

very true.

[Highway Robbery 0]

There have been some mocks I've seen that these guys continue to be taken too high. I have a true gut feeling that they'll really flop:

 

No particular order:

 

Joey Galloway (Clayton re-emerges, and Joey is getting older)

Santana Moss (won't approach last years numbers)

Willis McGahee (on that team? Please)

Joe Horn (wouldn't touch him. Stallworth should go higher. . . and it's not close)

Darrell Jackson (not a total bust, but I've seen some mags where he goes before Chambers and Wayne!)

Trent Green (Didn't upgrade their Wrs, Herm Edwards IS now his coach, nuff said)

Edgerrin James (he's been going way too high. When was the last time Arizona had a stud fantasy RB? Also, as soon as Hearst and Thomas Jones got out of the desert, their stats rose noticeably)

Kevin Jones (if Martz can ignore Marshall Faulk in his prime, certainly he can ignore KJ)

Jamal Lewis (was brutal even before they gave Mike Anderson a decent-sized contract)

 

McGahee - With Steve Fairchild in town the offense could really open up. What offense are you referring to?

Edge - The only historical refernce for Arizona that matters are the last 2 years, when Denny was there. The city doesn't matter.

Jones - Martz never ignored Marshall you idiot, Marshall was the greatest ever under Martz. But since KJ cannot catch a cold he might suck.

[monk 1]

McGahee - With Steve Fairchild in town the offense could really open up. What offense are you referring to?

Edge - The only historical refernce for Arizona that matters are the last 2 years, when Denny was there. The city doesn't matter.

Jones - Martz never ignored Marshall you idiot, Marshall was the greatest ever under Martz. But since KJ cannot catch a cold he might suck.

 

 

Under Denny Arizona was dead last in Rushing yds, Avg per carry and tds with 2 last year. They weren't much better in 04

[rwren 4]

Martz as the OC in St. Louis made Faulk a fantasy stud.

[remote controller 143]

I find it hilarious that people are giving this guy crap for posting a bust list. The fact is, one person's guess is as good as the next.

 

If I'd posted last year that McAllister, McGahee, Domanick Davis, Jamal Lewis, Randy Moss, Kevin Jones, Ahman Green, Terrell Owens, Daunte Culpepper, Curtis Martin, Donovan McNabb, Joe Horn, Javon Walker, Andre Johnson, DeShaun Foster, and JJ Arrington would all crap out, I would have been labeled a moron.

 

Who are you?

[b.j. booker 0]

I find it hilarious that people are giving this guy crap for posting a bust list. The fact is, one person's guess is as good as the next.

 

If I'd posted last year that McAllister, McGahee, Domanick Davis, Jamal Lewis, Randy Moss, Kevin Jones, Ahman Green, Terrell Owens, Daunte Culpepper, Curtis Martin, Donovan McNabb, Joe Horn, Javon Walker, Andre Johnson, DeShaun Foster, and JJ Arrington would all crap out, I would have been labeled a moron.

 

People seem to be giving Epic crap about some predictions and agreeing with others. Whats wrong with that?

 

As far as your list...I count at least 9 players who got injured or suspended, so the point you are trying to make is meaningless. Epic is not saying he thinks the players will get injured but that they will play and put up bad numbers.

[pollardposse 0]

How in the hell do you figure Martz didn't use Faulk in his prime!!! These posts kill me.

I'm in St. Louis. I actually watched the games. I was lucky enough to see Faulk win the MVP. I guess that was because Martz failed to let him amass 2,400 total yards in a season and score 20 TD's.

If that is someone that was underused, I have to wonder what he could have done if Martz actually gave him the ball.....

[Duffman 0]

So, you're high on DJax? Okay. Go ahead and take him. My point is that he is being mentioned in the same breath and has been going in about the same area as Wayne and Chambers. . . that is a joke.

 

 

I like Wayne and Chambers as well. But you think DJax should not be mentioned with them? That is not a joke. This is: Why are women's feet smaller than a man's? So they can stand closer to the oven.

[traders2001 0]

yea galloway, horn, and green I can see also maybe moss. but the others are ridiculous.

 

 

Galloway is also ridiculous in a re-draft league , the guy has one or maybe 2 more decent seasons ahead of him , and by the way no Clayton wont re-emerge he will end up third WR behind Boston.

 

Dom Davis shoul be added to your list.

[Ras66not99 0]

Galloway is also ridiculous in a re-draft league , the guy has one or maybe 2 more decent seasons ahead of him , and by the way no Clayton wont re-emerge he will end up third WR behind Boston.

 

Dom Davis shoul be added to your list.

 

DAVID BOSTON !#@#!%$@$ stop off season reading so much its warping your brain...

[The Epic Tradition 0]

How in the hell do you figure Martz didn't use Faulk in his prime!!! These posts kill me.

I'm in St. Louis. I actually watched the games. I was lucky enough to see Faulk win the MVP. I guess that was because Martz failed to let him amass 2,400 total yards in a season and score 20 TD's.

If that is someone that was underused, I have to wonder what he could have done if Martz actually gave him the ball.....

Faulk had better years when Vermeil was the HC and Martz the OC. In his last few years as HC, Martz was continually ripped for not running the ball enough. . . both underutilizing Faulk, and then SJax.

[WhiteWonder 2,734]

There have been some mocks I've seen that these guys continue to be taken too high. I have a true gut feeling that they'll really flop:

 

No particular order:

 

Edgerrin James (he's been going way too high. When was the last time Arizona had a stud fantasy RB? Also, as soon as Hearst and Thomas Jones got out of the desert, their stats rose noticeably)

Kevin Jones (if Martz can ignore Marshall Faulk in his prime, certainly he can ignore KJ)

 

 

Whens the last time Arizona had Edge?

 

Marshall Faulk was hardly in his prime when Martz coached him

[Deception 0]

edge will have a great year, how the hell are teams supposed to stop him? They cant put 8 in the box cuase arizona has 2 1400 yrd WR.

[rebooters 1]

How in the hell do you figure Martz didn't use Faulk in his prime!!! These posts kill me.

I'm in St. Louis. I actually watched the games. I was lucky enough to see Faulk win the MVP. I guess that was because Martz failed to let him amass 2,400 total yards in a season and score 20 TD's.

If that is someone that was underused, I have to wonder what he could have done if Martz actually gave him the ball.....

you are right, but KJ does not equal Faulk.

 

i think KJ will still suck and be drafted too high. he should do better than last year because its hard to do worse but still going to early in drafts.

also i BUST and mark it down is JJ. he wont go as high as last year but ive still seen him being picked off in the late 2nd/early 3rd and IMO its too risky.

 

about DJAX, i hope his knee is 100%. i really like the seahawks and DJAX, SA, HASS but i just havent seen DJAX perform as expected...ever! IM expecting a big year from both chambers and wayne so id agree that i couldnt put DJAX in the same tier of WR as these other two guys. DJAX not a bust but not the value that he is getting drafted at.

 

sucks that we have to stay away from javon walker, always loved him but like someone else said(they gave a forumla), he will fail in denver + his knee doesnt help.

 

also i will put this out there, SA is on the cover of MADDEN!

[De Novo 0]

I agree most with Edge ...What makes people think going from one of the best running teams in the league to one of the worst will not affect his performance - He should be going in the late 2nd or early 3rd rounds.

 

This isn't entirely true. Indy doesn't run-block all that well. It's really more of an obligatory push on the defender and then get out of the way so they aren't too tired to pass-block for Manning.

[skinsrule05 30]

also i will put this out there, SA is on the cover of MADDEN!

 

I am convinced there is no way SA plays a full season. Four things working against him:

1. His usage last year (448 total touches)

2. Not playing for a contract means doesn't need to play hurt

3. Madden

4. historically what happens to losing superbowl teams

[RLLD 4,230]

McNAIR!!!!!